On November 25 2013 07:32 AsnSensation wrote:
in the defense tree, what's better the 4th point in tenacious or runic shield?
in the defense tree, what's better the 4th point in tenacious or runic shield?
4th point in tenacious usually
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On November 25 2013 07:32 AsnSensation wrote: in the defense tree, what's better the 4th point in tenacious or runic shield? 4th point in tenacious usually | ||
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Spaiku
Spain1114 Posts
On November 25 2013 07:34 Slayer91 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2013 07:32 AsnSensation wrote: in the defense tree, what's better the 4th point in tenacious or runic shield? 4th point in tenacious usually Agree, runic shield is good if you're going for some kind of lvl 1/2 all in but otherwise tenacious stats are much better | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 25 2013 07:32 JonnyLaw wrote: Diana's q was so cheap and cleared waves so early. Then once she hit 6 she killed you. Her shield at release was pretty bullshit too. I remember all-inning one in my creep wave at level three as pantheon. Diana sat there, pressed W and just killed me. lol. They nerfed her W's Damage, shield amount, and made it only refresh once instead of twice. | ||
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PhOeniX[MinD]
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 25 2013 08:08 PhOeniX[MinD] wrote: do you see double top happening or i am crazy and noob? Depends. Seems to me, that if you are facing double top and get a small advantage, you can just play super aggro without really any repercussions. Also, inevitably this jungle will get changed because right now it is once again not accomplishing a single goal laid out by Riot's pre-season team. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On November 25 2013 07:00 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: best rule is to pick yorick and make every teamfight 10v5 You're up against Zilean, they all buy GA. 15v10 gg | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 25 2013 08:36 GolemMadness wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2013 07:00 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: best rule is to pick yorick and make every teamfight 10v5 You're up against Zilean, they all buy GA. 15v10 gg Nonono. Its all about dat Shaco. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On November 25 2013 08:47 iCanada wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2013 08:36 GolemMadness wrote: On November 25 2013 07:00 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: best rule is to pick yorick and make every teamfight 10v5 You're up against Zilean, they all buy GA. 15v10 gg Nonono. Its all about dat Shaco. You think you're team fighting, but really they're all backdooring your nexus. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 25 2013 07:22 cLutZ wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2013 07:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: On November 25 2013 03:28 TheYango wrote: On November 25 2013 02:32 Alzadar wrote: You can't just say that without providing your own opinion... Most obvious ones are Diana/Rengar. Zyra had somewhat overtuned numbers, but that was it. Diana and Rengar fundamentally warped how the game was played and, drove the shift from how the game was played at Worlds to how the game was played at IPL5. Zyra's strength was more obvious, but Diana and Rengar were definitely more "overpowered". Why was Diana so extreme? She's a little tankier than Katarina and Akali but I don't see how she's so fundamentally different from them that she warped the game and they didn't. Rengar is obvious, don't need an explanation there lol Diana kinda pioneered the "midlane assassin with infinite waveclear" thing. So, like, was the spiritual predecessor to our midlane problems: Assassins that cant be harassed out of lane with ease. You're also forgetting how Diana's release base damages were so high that she should go GA first and still be a burst threat. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 25 2013 09:29 TheYango wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2013 07:22 cLutZ wrote: On November 25 2013 07:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: On November 25 2013 03:28 TheYango wrote: On November 25 2013 02:32 Alzadar wrote: You can't just say that without providing your own opinion... Most obvious ones are Diana/Rengar. Zyra had somewhat overtuned numbers, but that was it. Diana and Rengar fundamentally warped how the game was played and, drove the shift from how the game was played at Worlds to how the game was played at IPL5. Zyra's strength was more obvious, but Diana and Rengar were definitely more "overpowered". Why was Diana so extreme? She's a little tankier than Katarina and Akali but I don't see how she's so fundamentally different from them that she warped the game and they didn't. Rengar is obvious, don't need an explanation there lol Diana kinda pioneered the "midlane assassin with infinite waveclear" thing. So, like, was the spiritual predecessor to our midlane problems: Assassins that cant be harassed out of lane with ease. You're also forgetting how Diana's release base damages were so high that she should go GA first and still be a burst threat. Well there is being OP, then there is being OP and bad for the game even when "balanced". | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On November 25 2013 09:18 GolemMadness wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2013 08:47 iCanada wrote: On November 25 2013 08:36 GolemMadness wrote: On November 25 2013 07:00 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: best rule is to pick yorick and make every teamfight 10v5 You're up against Zilean, they all buy GA. 15v10 gg Nonono. Its all about dat Shaco. You think you're team fighting, but really they're all backdooring your nexus. lol | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 25 2013 10:17 Alaric wrote: So you're here talking about free sustain and complaining about stuff and "toxic" design, and you think it'd be fair to let Karma heal herself for 40% of her missing health every 30s or so? Just saying. Her W is really boring in ARAM. I guess I should have specified and moved my discussion to the super serious ARAM discussion guide. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 25 2013 09:29 TheYango wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2013 07:22 cLutZ wrote: On November 25 2013 07:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: On November 25 2013 03:28 TheYango wrote: On November 25 2013 02:32 Alzadar wrote: You can't just say that without providing your own opinion... Most obvious ones are Diana/Rengar. Zyra had somewhat overtuned numbers, but that was it. Diana and Rengar fundamentally warped how the game was played and, drove the shift from how the game was played at Worlds to how the game was played at IPL5. Zyra's strength was more obvious, but Diana and Rengar were definitely more "overpowered". Why was Diana so extreme? She's a little tankier than Katarina and Akali but I don't see how she's so fundamentally different from them that she warped the game and they didn't. Rengar is obvious, don't need an explanation there lol Diana kinda pioneered the "midlane assassin with infinite waveclear" thing. So, like, was the spiritual predecessor to our midlane problems: Assassins that cant be harassed out of lane with ease. You're also forgetting how Diana's release base damages were so high that she should go GA first and still be a burst threat. Release diana so terror. It was like season 1 akali, except tankier and more absurd. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On November 25 2013 10:55 wei2coolman wrote: Release diana so terror. It was like season 1 akali, except tankier and more absurd. I said this back in august and dandel lon and sylverfyre called bull shit. I'll remember which posts to skip in gd. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=360629¤tpage=78#1556 | ||
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