EPT[Patch 3.14] PreSeason 4 General Discussion - Page 61
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On November 25 2013 04:57 nafta wrote: We should rename it to fiddle or evelynn. edit: I feel like so many people when they watched that video originally didn't notice the joke of eve singing a "Toxic" parody b/c she was toxic to gameplay l0l. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On November 25 2013 03:52 turdburgler wrote: the reasons to not really do dragon late game were never mostly about the gold, so adding more gold to him is nice but hardly a game changer. I disagree with this a lot. Baron is prioritized due to how staggering the buffs are when compared to Dragon. That buff is being changed. Hopefully this is just a first step in Riot attempting to even out the difference between top and bottom side of the map. It seems interesting. There's a huge part of me that is still hoping for alternating baron/dragon spawns in game. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:35 BlackPaladin wrote: I know one day Riot will rework both sion and poppy, but when that day comes I will cry tears of manly sadness as I watch Riot completely change the champ so that they're barely recognizable and then give them shitty new voices and looks. I can live with poppy being gutted XOXOXOXO Every ADC player ever. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 25 2013 04:46 AsnSensation wrote: I wonder how happy Zenon is after everyone hated Lucian for the first few weeks and now he's fotm first pick/ban it's not like he didn't get QoL changes at all. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 25 2013 05:26 Alaric wrote: Random question: if Nasus Qs me while I wear a thornmail, will it only reflect the total AD part of the skill, or all of the damage including the stacks? I dunno, you'd have to test it. It depends on how the skill is coded in the game... Most next hit abilities proc thornmail damages though, except for like Parrleey. That being said, most Nasus will have a reasonable amount of MR so Thornmail would likely only tickle them anyway. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Thornmail reflects both physical and magic damage; the only determining factor in its trigger is whether the attack is defined as proccing on-hit effects. For example, Warwick's Infinite Duress deals only magic damage, but still procs Thornmail's unique passive. Nasus Q procs sheen so it does proc on hit effects. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Thornmail You should always check the wiki first. Imo, most of my questions can be answered there. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On November 25 2013 05:44 wei2coolman wrote: it's not like he didn't get QoL changes at all. Those changes had very little effect on the champion when it comes to the reasons he's good. It's definitely not an excuse to avoid the fact that we were completely wrong. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 (Also if it works, then despite having a bunch of MR Nasus will still take 30% of 700-900 damage which can easily mean 150-200 HP with each Q if he only has 100 MR, although his passive will indirectly reduce that further.) Edit: after checking, this one only had SV for MR (rest thornmail+GH+tabi+sunfire+triforce, so no wonders he couldn't get through my 300 armour Mundo while the cleavers mostly ignored thornmail and chunked him for my teammates to finish off). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 25 2013 06:20 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Those changes had very little effect on the champion when it comes to the reasons he's good. It's definitely not an excuse to avoid the fact that we were completely wrong. The kit is good but if numbers aren't good, it's shit. Simple as that. The q changes were huge, especially removing the double mana bug. And giving quite a bit of mana regen as well. Those were huge in making him bearable to play in lane. Without those changes he wasn't much of a lane threat. Now with tons more mana he's become a Draven in lane. | ||
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Kyrie
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
But for Lucian it was known after two days at worst that his Q sometimes cost double mana, so you can't exactly blame it for "Lucian's so trash!" because we knew to evaluate this as a non-expected behaviour when deciding what's good or not for him. And people still believe his ult is trash, despite it not having been changed much since release, because they think that unless it bursts harder than Collateral Damage (but I'm beating a dead horse here, Super Mega Death Rocket already blows it out of the water) it's a bad damage ability. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Never use a skin. Every player I've seen with a skin just gets bullied so hard because they the only recognizable champ. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On November 25 2013 03:28 TheYango wrote: Most obvious ones are Diana/Rengar. Zyra had somewhat overtuned numbers, but that was it. Diana and Rengar fundamentally warped how the game was played and, drove the shift from how the game was played at Worlds to how the game was played at IPL5. Zyra's strength was more obvious, but Diana and Rengar were definitely more "overpowered". Why was Diana so extreme? She's a little tankier than Katarina and Akali but I don't see how she's so fundamentally different from them that she warped the game and they didn't. Rengar is obvious, don't need an explanation there lol | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 25 2013 07:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Why was Diana so extreme? She's a little tankier than Katarina and Akali but I don't see how she's so fundamentally different from them that she warped the game and they didn't. Rengar is obvious, don't need an explanation there lol Diana kinda pioneered the "midlane assassin with infinite waveclear" thing. So, like, was the spiritual predecessor to our midlane problems: Assassins that cant be harassed out of lane with ease. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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