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Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
November 24 2013 13:30 GMT
#1181
wow 230k people watching CLG vs fnatic
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 24 2013 13:31 GMT
#1182
On November 24 2013 21:58 Osmoses wrote:
Riot wanna talk toxic gameplay? Why is fiddlesticks still in the game? Why was he ever introduced?


Surely you realize by now that Riot's talk about toxicity is merely an excuse to do whatever they brainwashing the populace.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 24 2013 13:33 GMT
#1183
On November 24 2013 22:31 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:58 Osmoses wrote:
Riot wanna talk toxic gameplay? Why is fiddlesticks still in the game? Why was he ever introduced?


Surely you realize by now that Riot's talk about toxicity is merely an excuse to do whatever they brainwashing the populace.


#conspiracys
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 13:54:41
November 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#1184
'Sup son.

EDIT : WRONG THREAD DON'T MIND ME.
The legend of Darien lives on
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 24 2013 15:08 GMT
#1185
On November 24 2013 21:35 BlackPaladin wrote:
I know one day Riot will rework both sion and poppy, but when that day comes I will cry tears of manly sadness as I watch Riot completely change the champ so that they're barely recognizable and then give them shitty new voices and looks.

poppy is still the one champ I have never played a game with (heyo not in free week rotation)
sion i've played exactly once, he used to be free weekable but I think they took him out of the rotation too.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 24 2013 16:44 GMT
#1186
Is this "whine about something random" day? D:
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#1187
On November 24 2013 22:30 Chemiczny84 wrote:
wow 230k people watching CLG vs fnatic

DL's trashtalking working.
liftlift > tsm
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 24 2013 17:14 GMT
#1188
that wall on the new champion seems hilariously broken but i can't help but think that it's fucking cool.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 24 2013 17:17 GMT
#1189
On November 25 2013 02:14 AsnSensation wrote:
that wall on the new champion seems hilariously broken but i can't help but think that it's fucking cool.

Riot's answer to Nidalee being broken.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 24 2013 17:25 GMT
#1190
EUW is in a trash state, yet again. People rushing right past me, then half a second later I take damage or effects as though they had actually hit me. Fucking unplayable.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 17:33:14
November 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#1191
On November 24 2013 18:51 Amui wrote:
nvm wasn't paying attention.

That doesn't really change the fact that release darius pretty much won every single lane early on barring jungle ganks. And the ult changes were actually a huge nerf. Before, if you died once to darius ulti, you'd die again and again unless jungler camped the darius for you. If the jungler didn't come top, 5 minutes later, if he comes up it's a double kill..


But I showed that Darius was barely changed for a almost a year after release... If that was the case when he came out and not a few months later, it just means people learned how to play against him.

On November 24 2013 18:54 phyvo wrote:
IDK, I thought the ult reset in lane was a big deal because the instant you returned to lane he'd just instantly kill you again since he'd still have ult up.


That was changed in the Quinn patch, long after his release. Unless you mean only resetting on kill, but it's really not hard to get the kill with Darius ult.

On November 24 2013 19:19 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
Basically Darius had only very minor balance tweaks after release, nothing compared to Zed, Zyra, Thresh who have all had tons of changes / been super OP (Zyra was IMO the most overpowered release champ since I've been playing, i.e. since Leona).

Zyra's definitely not the most OP release since Leona.


You can't just say that without providing your own opinion...

TL needs to implement a multi-quote feature, this is way too much work.
I am the Town Medic.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 24 2013 17:35 GMT
#1192
The reason Darius was kept in check was because of the resurgence of Jayce. Also the nerfs to his ult was still pretty big. You used to be able to execute, get reset. Shove wave, go back and buy. Oh, now I'm 300 gold ahead, let me 100-0 you again, and rinse and repeat. Essentially it was pretty similar to Riven's ult being used (because Riven's ult was on such short CD, could use it everytime the enemy toplaner came back).
liftlift > tsm
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 17:50:29
November 24 2013 17:49 GMT
#1193
Darius has issues against a lot more than just Jayce. A lot of ranged top laners give him issues - your only out vs. them is to try to grab them, and if that fails you're pretty much gonna get zoned or run over in the next 20 seconds while it's on cooldown.

His lack of mobility gives him issues too, we all know how gankable he is, and he isnt even crushingly strong in a countergank-2v2 because again, low mobility melee.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
November 24 2013 18:14 GMT
#1194
Discussing Darius now isn't the issue, the conversation only even started as people have referenced that CertainlyT? (forget the actual name sorry) has had several heroes (Zyra, Thresh, Darius) release very very strong and that they expect something similar from the new dude.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 18:28:30
November 24 2013 18:28 GMT
#1195
On November 25 2013 02:32 Alzadar wrote:
You can't just say that without providing your own opinion...

Most obvious ones are Diana/Rengar.

Zyra had somewhat overtuned numbers, but that was it. Diana and Rengar fundamentally warped how the game was played and, drove the shift from how the game was played at Worlds to how the game was played at IPL5. Zyra's strength was more obvious, but Diana and Rengar were definitely more "overpowered".
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 24 2013 18:41 GMT
#1196
Item build of my last game as jungle Mundo:
machete+5 -> boots -> golem -> tabi -> SV -> sunfire -> randuin's -> warmog's -> homeguard+red pot+trinket -> replace golem with atma's -> replace sunfire with thornmail.
...
Sure, it was a 50 minutes game, but still. This explosion of gold from assists is dumb.

Also did anyone really "feel" the dragon gold buff? I'm not really tryharding in that aspect because I'm playing with people generally worse than me, so I haven't noticed anything, but does the gold really make it worth to time and fight for past midgame?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 24 2013 18:52 GMT
#1197
the reasons to not really do dragon late game were never mostly about the gold, so adding more gold to him is nice but hardly a game changer.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
November 24 2013 19:12 GMT
#1198
On November 24 2013 20:52 TyrantPotato wrote:
Currently skarner is THE champ that screams "take my E plz".

Seriously i want that rework to come through

Build Spirit of the Spectral Wrath, should finish just about by the time you hit lvl7/8
then you have enough sustain to actually take E at lvl8 and it actually has really good AP ratios
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 24 2013 19:27 GMT
#1199
On November 25 2013 03:41 Alaric wrote:
Item build of my last game as jungle Mundo:
machete+5 -> boots -> golem -> tabi -> SV -> sunfire -> randuin's -> warmog's -> homeguard+red pot+trinket -> replace golem with atma's -> replace sunfire with thornmail.
...
Sure, it was a 50 minutes game, but still. This explosion of gold from assists is dumb.

Also did anyone really "feel" the dragon gold buff? I'm not really tryharding in that aspect because I'm playing with people generally worse than me, so I haven't noticed anything, but does the gold really make it worth to time and fight for past midgame?

Yeah the assist bonus is really op. I feel like I'm motivated to gank more, participate in more teamfight and not too afraid of dying, since I can still get a lot of gold.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 24 2013 19:46 GMT
#1200
I wonder how happy Zenon is after everyone hated Lucian for the first few weeks and now he's fotm first pick/ban
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