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On November 22 2013 10:28 TheYango wrote:
I read that as being more than 50%. It's 50% bonus PER LEVEL, meaning that it's 50% for being 1 level behind, 100% bonus for being 2 levels behind, etc. up to a cap so you're not getting +500% bonus XP or something.
Even if it caps at like +100% XP for being 2 levels behind, that already means you pretty much never want to have someone who's not getting that bonus XP farming camps.
100% XP for being 2 levels behind is like killing 2 wraith camps for price of 1. So it's not that absurd. It's not like you can get 1 level straight for killing 2 wraith camps or something. Moreover, it's very hard for even a jungler to clear the whole jungle while doing other thing, it's impossible for a support to clear all jungle by herself.
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Can i have my game back?
I spent cash spent on support skins. Can i have that back?
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On November 22 2013 11:06 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 11:02 iCanada wrote:On November 22 2013 10:22 TheYango wrote:Read the patch notes: Context: Junglers who fall behind had no opportunity to catch up, so now Jungle monsters grant bonus XP to champions who are lower level than the monster they killed.
Jungle monsters grant 50% bonus XP per level to lower-level champions, up to a cap It's supposed to help junglers catch up, but what it means is by midgame, the most efficient person to have farming jungle is the support because they're getting 50% bonus XP per level for free just by being lower level. Given how Relic Shield can still be fully utilized even if you're only sometimes in lanes, and Golem Spirit can be fully utilized even if you're only sometimes farming jungle, it could actually be very realistic. Why the hell did they think it was too hard for junglers to get back in the game anyway? <_< Brutal. All that change does for junglers is reduce jungler skill gap, as far as I am concerned. Unless they massively changed gold generation. Because people don't like to be 4-5 levels behind everybody while being expected to tank shit because they had a poor start.
Okay, but is falling behind because you got outplayed really a bad thing?
I dunno, I think its ridiculous.
Its no fun to lane against an assassin, get behind, get no farm, and die on Ult CD either, but thats still in the game.
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Another character with a short dash.
I love short dashes 
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On November 22 2013 11:30 canikizu wrote:
100% XP for being 2 levels behind is like killing 2 wraith camps for price of 1. So it's not that absurd. It's not like you can get 1 level straight for killing 2 wraith camps or something. Moreover, it's very hard for even a jungler to clear the whole jungle while doing other thing, it's impossible for a support to clear all jungle by herself.
No, but it's possible for 2 supports to clear the jungle together as fast as a single jungler while earning the same XP per person, and still being able to make full use of their Relic Shields between clears.
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waaait, 50% EXP for each level behind on average? With no cap? are you guys sure? it sounds pretty ridiculous
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It's like they took the sterotype clip of two guys with swords running at each other leaping into the air making one slash, landing and one falls over dead and turned it into a champion. Kinda approve.
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On November 22 2013 11:35 Scip wrote:
waaait, 50% EXP for each level behind on average? With no cap? are you guys sure? it sounds pretty ridiculous
It sounds like a very Riot thing to do though, no?
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On November 22 2013 11:35 Scip wrote:
waaait, 50% EXP for each level behind on average? With no cap? are you guys sure? it sounds pretty ridiculous
Yeah.
-.-
As jungler this is like full retard nerf.
That being said, holy balls you can get a lot ofd gold if you just straight rice the jungle. After 15 minute on Udyr I was able to get Ancient Golem, Aegis, and Boots in a custom.
Also, what the hell. I straight up can't last hit under turrets anymore. Riot pls.
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On November 22 2013 11:35 Scip wrote:
waaait, 50% EXP for each level behind on average? With no cap? are you guys sure? it sounds pretty ridiculous
It's capped (the notes don't say what the cap is and it's a pain to test), but even if the cap is really low like +100% or +150% it's still an enormous amount of bonus XP.
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I spent half the game at the fountain because I had no idea what to buy as support. I JUST WANT TO BUY WARDS  .
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On November 22 2013 11:38 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 11:35 Scip wrote:
waaait, 50% EXP for each level behind on average? With no cap? are you guys sure? it sounds pretty ridiculous Yeah. -.- As jungler this is like full retard nerf. That being said, holy balls you can get a lot ofd gold if you just straight rice the jungle. After 15 minute on Udyr I was able to get Ancient Golem, Aegis, and Boots in a custom. Also, what the hell. I straight up can't last hit under turrets anymore. Riot pls.
What? That is glorious
I can dick around for ages and do fuckall and then come into my jungle and get a level per clear. Me like.
It's still scary time at 7:10 and around 11:00 when dragon becomes viable. I'll try how much stuff I can do by just dicking around lol
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I kind of sad that the full retard S1 support style is officially awful.
I missed Just having like 2 DBlasdes, a Shield, and dem Wards,
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On November 22 2013 11:43 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 11:38 iCanada wrote:On November 22 2013 11:35 Scip wrote:
waaait, 50% EXP for each level behind on average? With no cap? are you guys sure? it sounds pretty ridiculous Yeah. -.- As jungler this is like full retard nerf. That being said, holy balls you can get a lot ofd gold if you just straight rice the jungle. After 15 minute on Udyr I was able to get Ancient Golem, Aegis, and Boots in a custom. Also, what the hell. I straight up can't last hit under turrets anymore. Riot pls. What? That is glorious I can dick around for ages and do fuckall and then come into my jungle and get a level per clear. Me like. It's still scary time at 7:10 and around 11:00 when dragon becomes viable. I'll try how much stuff I can do by just dicking around lol
I dunno, I play all dem counter jungling junglers.
I dont really know how to Jungle against say an Eve anymore. Just kind of roll over I guess.
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Uhhg. So the new champion is either another AD Assassin (we have too many already), or a Melle AD "carry" (no place in the game).
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What is the point of counterjungling, you hurt the other jungler, whoop de do he gets 50% exp bonus lol fuck that
I'll just go and camp lanes, legit camp, make sure I don't steal any exp from my laners and make it so that enemy laners have to stay away from exp range
even when creep camps banked xp+gold camping was shit but 50-100% is just crezy god, I bet camping is even worth it now sometimes.
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On November 22 2013 11:48 Scip wrote:
What is the point of counterjungling, you hurt the other jungler, whoop de do he gets 50% exp bonus lol fuck that
I'll just go and camp lanes, legit camp, make sure I don't steal any exp from my laners and make it so that enemy laners have to stay away from exp range
even when creep camps banked xp+gold camping was shit but 50-100% is just crezy god, I bet camping is even worth it now sometimes.
Exactly.
I think that is stupid. Just totally eliminates that interaction of the game.
I just feel kind of rattled. My entire playstyle is no longer possible.
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On November 22 2013 11:48 Scip wrote:
What is the point of counterjungling, you hurt the other jungler, whoop de do he gets 50% exp bonus lol fuck that
I'll just go and camp lanes, legit camp, make sure I don't steal any exp from my laners and make it so that enemy laners have to stay away from exp range
even when creep camps banked xp+gold camping was shit but 50-100% is just crezy god, I bet camping is even worth it now sometimes.
You can even buy Relic Shield and pop Relic Shield for a nice heal and some free gold to your laners, just as a fuck you to the enemy laner.
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Yasuo creates a wall of wind that slowly drifts forward for a few seconds. The wall blocks all enemy projectiles.
I'm going to nominate this for potentially the buggiest ability we've seen in a while
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i dont think i like the changes from what i've been hearing . Then again, I've never liked change anyway.
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