EPTOn November 22 2013 06:10 wei2coolman wrote:
Voidstaff is better. Unless you need the waveclear.
Voidstaff is better. Unless you need the waveclear.
I know, I was mirroring Zer0.
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Gahlo
United States35150 Posts
I know, I was mirroring Zer0. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On November 22 2013 06:51 AsmodeusXI wrote: Here's my one question that probably won't be able to get a sufficient answer until way later in the patch but here we go. Do people feel like they've EARNED the gold they have? OR, from the other side Do you feel like you're behind ENOUGH when you are losing? Or do you still have a fuckton of gold for items? (I realize that in this case no matter how much you have the enemies will have more, but still curious) I don't have any feedback, but I will critique the value of this statistic. Just after you start getting gold, you may not feel like you've earned the stat, but if the game were always like this, where supports had as much gold as everyone else, people might not feel that way. It's the same with all of Riot's changes. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On November 22 2013 07:03 obesechicken13 wrote: I don't have any feedback, but I will critique the value of this statistic. Just after you start getting gold, you may not feel like you've earned the stat, but if the game were always like this, where supports had as much gold as everyone else, people might not feel that way. It's the same with all of Riot's changes. Yeah I understand... I just feel a bit like items should be earned if you know what I mean. But it's probably a silly thought. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Also after spectating these Nasus games, even though the model and particles are higher quality and all, I actually prefer Nasus' original model. His pink-ish look (esp. for his icons) is pretty meh and uninspiring, Siphoning Strike's sound effect isn't there anymore, and the way he walks is even more disjointed and ridiculous than the original. Pretty much everything was better before, from VO to SFX to particles. | ||
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V0ren
Netherlands233 Posts
Going full on tank Leona is hilarious now though, so tanky. On November 22 2013 07:26 Zergneedsfood wrote: Guys Lee Sin is unviable now. Only 3 wards per player? gg, looks like we're never seeing Lee Sin in competitive play again older wards just disappear, he's still a pretty good pick. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
1800 gold for terrible stats. the gold generation isn't good either. played a game where I literally ignored my team for 25 minutes and farmed jungle as mundo. wriggles only gave 800~900 bonus gold total. Better off getting a few dblades or w/e and ganking. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On November 22 2013 08:01 Kupon3ss wrote: Doesn't he gets even more free wards now, huge buff fuck you're right more lee sin banning | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On November 22 2013 08:10 Ryuu314 wrote: ganking. You should try explaining that concept to Scip hue hue hue. | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 22 2013 08:13 imBLIND wrote: Is the wriggles ward seperate from the total amount of wards a player can have or no? No. Nor are the free trinket wards. | ||
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Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
I suggest something like Jungle taric with support runes and masteries, for complete mid lane dominance. Suggest TP on mid laner as a way to counteract ganks, or gank lanes. If this doesn't turn out to be the new meta, if the item is not changed I'll be highly surprised! Edit: Or fiddle, even better! | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On November 22 2013 05:48 Slayer91 wrote: Warmogs is a 2630 best regen item in a game, and being less than 66% is a fair price to match it for 3 mastery points lol like you dont need regen when you're full hp, so why is it hampered? and the 10% regen below 25%, like, if you're low you usually get ignite bursted anyway, would prefer the resists all game. The shield thing is meh as well, at best it counts as 50 hp, thats if nobody ever harasses you in lane, and 50 in teamfights also if you dont get harassed (or you get harassed so much you cant regen) You are probably right, though there are certainly situational benefits to both masteries. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I'm doing analysis on end game builds with 650 AP. This is because Supports finally have a chance to reach 650 AP. 500 from runes, masteries, buffs, and items (120 deathcap, 120 deathfire grasp, 60 chalice, 70 void staff, 120 zhonyas, etc. When you factor in 5 AP items you come close to 500 AP) 150 from deathfire's passive. I want to know which supports might be theoretically stronger than normal in a late game scenario post patch.
Anyways, I know this is a lot of theorycraft. Most of it is too theoretical, but I hope someone can make some use out of it. I know I can't predict everything with math. Next week all the pros will be on support Ashe or something. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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