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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 21 2013 23:32 GMT
#361
fiddle so good now, his lane got destroyed but still ended up getting items and winning the game for the other team, so dumb gonna ban him every game
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captharlock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States223 Posts
November 21 2013 23:33 GMT
#362
On November 22 2013 08:08 MooMooMugi wrote:
What trinkets are the best to get for each role? I'm guessing for Mid, ADC, and Top lane its the free ward one. Support, the vision revealing one or clairvoyance? Jungle, free ward or vision revealing as well



For jungle, I probably would take the sweeper. Support could work with the CV or Sweeper.
Baneslayer Angel could be hungover, slightly blind, and texting while flying and still win the game
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 21 2013 23:37 GMT
#363
On November 22 2013 08:32 Vonthin wrote:
fiddle so good now, his lane got destroyed but still ended up getting items and winning the game for the other team, so dumb gonna ban him every game

I'm a very passive player. The only time I've ever hard carried a game recently like triple killing every team fight have been as either tristana or fiddle in the middle. Fiddle without his normal jungle budget is disgusting.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 23:41:32
November 21 2013 23:40 GMT
#364
I'm having to deal with Janna having more AP than me on Viktor shielding people and we can't kill them.
Then again, the fact that these retards manage to die to a BotRK/mallet/Triforce Teemo 3v1 means my team wasn't the best example available regarding how to deal with that...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
November 21 2013 23:48 GMT
#365
I have to make mastery pages again T_T
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 21 2013 23:50 GMT
#366
Man. Janna-nado needs to have a much bigger AP/S ratio. If you get hit by a full channel Tornado, it should like, 1 shot you. I don't think anything in the game is harder to hit.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 21 2013 23:56 GMT
#367
On November 22 2013 08:50 cLutZ wrote:
Man. Janna-nado needs to have a much bigger AP/S ratio. If you get hit by a full channel Tornado, it should like, 1 shot you. I don't think anything in the game is harder to hit.


I hit plenty of full channel nados, it's easy in team fights because people don't think to dodge it, or you can cast it from fog. I disagree.
Hey! How you doin'?
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 00:03:47
November 22 2013 00:03 GMT
#368
On November 22 2013 08:08 MooMooMugi wrote:
What trinkets are the best to get for each role? I'm guessing for Mid, ADC, and Top lane its the free ward one. Support, the vision revealing one or clairvoyance? Jungle, free ward or vision revealing as well


Someone MUST have sweeper. Lategame is impossible without sweeper now that oracles is gone. Clearing vision is really really hard, not sure how I feel about the complete removal of oracles
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
November 22 2013 00:04 GMT
#369
Oh god I'm not used to all this gold on supports rofl.

Not even sure what I should build on them either lol.
Forever Young
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
November 22 2013 00:05 GMT
#370
warmogs
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 00:18:34
November 22 2013 00:06 GMT
#371
Banner of command/crucible/gold item/twin shadows.So fun.

Crucible is so op.I honestly don't understand how did riot miss that.Every ranged support and maybe melee should get it it's a no-brainer.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 00:25:10
November 22 2013 00:22 GMT
#372
Man I don't like new season. People see jungling got buffed and everybody wants to go jungle, but they don't even know how to jungle lol.
Golem spirit is better than I thought. I don't know that it can stack up to 80 charges, so you can have all the time in the world to go gank for your team then come back to farm and not missing out anything.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 22 2013 00:27 GMT
#373
Urgh. Tried Zhonya+Face+Sightstone+Lucidity boots+Sweeper+Crucible.

Usually my setup is main pots (flask or health) on 2, other on 1 or 3, wards on 4, pinks on 5. 2 is set on smartcast so I also put stuff like Crucible or DFG there in priority, although it's my default key for reflex activation (so Locket, Zhonya, etc. too).
When I have other items I put them on 3, then 1. When I buy sightstone it goes to my "ward slot", so 4.
...
Had 2 targeted actives, a normal active, sightstone, and the trinket. x_x
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
November 22 2013 00:30 GMT
#374
On November 22 2013 09:03 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:08 MooMooMugi wrote:
What trinkets are the best to get for each role? I'm guessing for Mid, ADC, and Top lane its the free ward one. Support, the vision revealing one or clairvoyance? Jungle, free ward or vision revealing as well


Someone MUST have sweeper. Lategame is impossible without sweeper now that oracles is gone. Clearing vision is really really hard, not sure how I feel about the complete removal of oracles

personally in bot lane so far, I tend towards both guys taking sweeper. My usual support start has still been potions and wards, coupled with 2 sweepers we have easily gained vision control in the river in every game so far, which has led to a successfull ganks, which lead to a won lane

You don't need the first gp10 item to start with, if you get it after first back it's early enough, but starting with less than 2 wards is just begging for a lost vision battle.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 22 2013 00:38 GMT
#375
am i the only one who rates randiuns really highly on supports? : D

yall need more slows.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 00:55:02
November 22 2013 00:53 GMT
#376
So is the general overall feeling that supports and junglers are getting a ton more gold, possibly even too much gold? And that other lanes need to start buying wards to help with vision on the mid to late game?

I'm also curious as to the offensive masteries, like is Riven even more OP now with the %dmg increase masteries? Is Leona an unkillable tank? Is Eve a must ban 100% now?

And IMO Randuin's always been a decent buy vs any AA centric ADC, and I know vs Vayne its a decent buy as well.
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
November 22 2013 00:56 GMT
#377
To compare Banner of Command with Morellonomicon...

Morello

2200 gold
75 ap
20% cdr
12 mana regen
grievous wounds passive


Banner

2400 gold
80 ap
20% cdr
minions buffed passive
promote active

Honestly, Banner's looking like it's going to be my go-to cdr item on most supports.
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
November 22 2013 00:57 GMT
#378
On November 22 2013 09:53 Kinie wrote:
So is the general overall feeling that supports and junglers are getting a ton more gold, possibly even too much gold? And that other lanes need to start buying wards to help with vision on the mid to late game?

I'm also curious as to the offensive masteries, like is Riven even more OP now with the %dmg increase masteries? Is Leona an unkillable tank? Is Eve a must ban 100% now?

And IMO Randuin's always been a decent buy vs any AA centric ADC, and I know vs Vayne its a decent buy as well.

Supports are getting too much gold, they are second ap carry or tank top status atm. And everyone has to buy wards, nobody can blame the support now if theres no wards on the map lol.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 22 2013 01:01 GMT
#379
The support items favoring supports staying in lane with a laner really bothers me.

50% bonus XP for champs that are lower level than jungle monsters heavily incentivizes the support being the one to farm them since they are only ones that are consistently below average level every game. NOT having someone benefiting from that 50% bonus midgame seems really wasteful.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 22 2013 01:04 GMT
#380
FACE OF THE MOUNTAIN.

Best item name ROFL.
God Bless
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