EPT[Patch 3.14] PreSeason 4 General Discussion - Page 140
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 05 2013 03:43 obesechicken13 wrote: [Dicks]Requizen lol Reminds me of when I watched some random handball match between "Cocks" and Dicken". | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 05 2013 03:39 PrinceXizor wrote: Yeah. but streaming another game isn't employment or even working for a competitor. Streamers product they market to viewers is THEMSELVES, their personality, antics. ect. people watch scarra stream for scarra, not to watch league of legends. they want to watch SCARRA. Stream numbers don't drop when streamers are playing whatever anime rhythm game of the month comes on in between queues. the viewers are there for the person, not the game. So streaming would be more analogous to a programmer being forbidden from doing stand up about programming in their free time. And they are free to play those games while listed in a non-League section of twitch. People tune into Scarra's stream to watch him play league. They know the Super Kawaii Desu #3 is something he does to fill time and they put up with that in light of the fact. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On December 05 2013 03:43 Shikyo wrote: Have 2 streaming accounts <.< ? Is there no way to turn off your promotion as "live" on feature streamer's list? Also with all LCS players on there maybe there is a rotation. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 05 2013 03:43 xes wrote: There's also the possibility that this only affects time that the pro is streaming under league while also being featured which could be considered official promotion rather than casual streaming. Its pretty hard to tell anything given we have a very selected sample of the contract and none of the context. I don't think anyone can argue against this as a stipulation of being "featured" by riot. As during that time you are streaming as if endorsed by riot. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
People say: "Riot is trying to control the esports scene and 'kill' other games". How does that logically follow from the information we've been given here? How does that explain the ban on pornography or tobacco? Is Riot trying to kill porn and cigarettes? Is this a social justice stance also? We may be able to draw parallels to the long-running struggle between streamers/content producers and the music industry. Where is the line between someone listening to their own music in a non-profit for-fun video and someone "scoring" their work with work they did not license? Even if it is unpopular, there is a very real legal question at the heart of the conflict. I think people are far too quick to just jump on the hype of a piece of paper read out of context. It's way too dangerous to jump directly to "Riot trying to kill streamers individuality" or "Riot trying to kill the industry". LCS players may be considered Riot employees and therefore there may be legal complexities involved with Riot employees seemingly advertising other products alongside League of Legends. There could be royalties issues or perception issues or fairness issues or other issues related to seeming Riot employees attaching certain things close to the existing League of Legends brand. We may not get more information from Riot on these contracts, but I really wish people would just take a brief moment while sharpening their pitchforks to think about what Riot would gain by trying to manipulate streams in the way that they are trying to claim they are. I don't think the upside is nearly as high for Riot as the downside. There must be another concern (even if this is a hamfisted mitigation of that concern; it is still an honest mitigation) that is driving this portion of the contract. | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On December 05 2013 03:47 TheLink wrote: Man fuck this new nasus skin. I finally found a top/jungle I can enjoy 1-trick-pony climbing with and now he's permaban in retard tier soloqueue purely because he got a new skin. I don't think it's the skin, but more people in lower tiers being completely afraid of Nasus. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9202 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 05 2013 03:49 Takkara wrote: I really needed to vent something about this contract "scandal". People really need to stop for a little bit and just extend Riot the benefit of the doubt. OK, why is this in the contract? Why these titles? Why just LCS people? Why only while streaming? People say: "Riot is trying to control the esports scene and 'kill' other games". How does that logically follow from the information we've been given here? How does that explain the ban on pornography or tobacco? Is Riot trying to kill porn and cigarettes? Is this a social justice stance also? We may be able to draw parallels to the long-running struggle between streamers/content producers and the music industry. Where is the line between someone listening to their own music in a non-profit for-fun video and someone "scoring" their work with work they did not license? Even if it is unpopular, there is a very real legal question at the heart of the conflict. I think people are far too quick to just jump on the hype of a piece of paper read out of context. It's way too dangerous to jump directly to "Riot trying to kill streamers individuality" or "Riot trying to kill the industry". LCS players may be considered Riot employees and therefore there may be legal complexities involved with Riot employees seemingly advertising other products alongside League of Legends. There could be royalties issues or perception issues or fairness issues or other issues related to seeming Riot employees attaching certain things close to the existing League of Legends brand. We may not get more information from Riot on these contracts, but I really wish people would just take a brief moment while sharpening their pitchforks to think about what Riot would gain by trying to manipulate streams in the way that they are trying to claim they are. I don't think the upside is nearly as high for Riot as the downside. There must be another concern (even if this is a hamfisted mitigation of that concern; it is still an honest mitigation) that is driving this portion of the contract. I don't think anyone said Riot's intentions are malicious. Just the actions are retarded. It's just like how we complain about how stupid some (a lot) of Riot's balancing changes are. On December 05 2013 03:52 Dan HH wrote: How the fuck is that "news" the #1 link on all of Reddit right now? It's like people never saw a contract before Cuz, leveraging contracts in such a way that controls employee's free time is a dick move. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On December 05 2013 03:50 Swords wrote: I don't think it's the skin, but more people in lower tiers being completely afraid of Nasus. Everyone should be scared of the doge. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On December 05 2013 03:40 turdburgler wrote: ye but as i already stated, players are little mind controlled bitches. even players dont want a players union, thats how dumb your average esports player is. You need a crap ton of money to form a players union. | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
maybe in the future | ||
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Swords
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 05 2013 03:53 wei2coolman wrote: I don't think anyone said Riot's intentions are malicious. Just the actions are retarded. It's just like how we complain about how stupid some (a lot) of Riot's balancing changes are. Riot has done enough of these "retarded" moves that makes it hard to believe it's not malicious. On December 05 2013 03:56 suicideyear wrote: if league of legends was as big in EU and NA in korea (i mean like TV revenue and shit) maybe a players union would be something to consider, but as it is? laughable, that shit would kill League faster than if Riot tried its hardest to maybe in the future Also it's kind of hard to make a players union for LoL since Riot are the only people actually doing anything with it(They kind of made sure of that). A general "esports player union" i think makes a lot of sense though. Think Koreans tried this but not sure if it collapsed | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 05 2013 03:57 Swords wrote: Also, I tried that tank Rengar thing yesterday. I'm not very good, and was just playing a normals with some friends, so it probably wasn't very indicative of his actual strength, but jesus, against lower tier players I could 1v4 the enemy team once I got ahead. On this topic, I was doing this with jungle rengar, I just took over my friends top lane after a while, should I still be picking up SV if they're all AD? I understand the heal boost, and CDR are still really nice, but such a huge waste of money into MR I don't really need. (I pretty much bought Zhonya's instead). On December 05 2013 03:58 Numy wrote: Riot has done enough of these "retarded" moves that makes it hard to believe it's not malicious. Unfun mechanics!!! | ||
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