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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On December 04 2013 23:39 Alaric wrote: Super Mario RPG: LoL edition! On December 04 2013 23:44 Shikyo wrote: lol played Taric top, Iceborn Gauntlet, Frozen Heart and Randuins. 460 armor, max CDR. Oneshot enemy ADC, only time I died after laning was when I ran OOM. OMG IT'S TRUE THE HAMMERS. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 04 2013 23:56 AsmodeusXI wrote: OMG IT'S TRUE THE HAMMERS. You can do E hit W hit R hit Q hit W hit E hit Q hit W hit etc, it's stupid. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On December 04 2013 23:49 obesechicken13 wrote: If you're going to nerf Rammus taunt and Fiddle fear, it's because there's little you can do once you've gotten cced in many situations if you don't have cleanse or qss or tenacity won't save you in time. But that's not going to change just because the cc time got reduced. I'm not sure why you would say that, a 25% reduction in CC makes a HUGE difference, just because it still fits the definition of CC doesn't mean nothing of significance has happened. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 05 2013 00:02 justiceknight wrote: whats with the taric? did he get buffed suddenly? It's funny what champions get strong when they get free money. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 05 2013 00:02 justiceknight wrote: whats with the taric? did he get buffed suddenly? Well with the 460 armor I mentioned, my passive was doing 150 magic dmg or so on every auto. Add in Iceborn Gauntlet and the fact that your W deals decent damage and reduces enemy armor, that Q heals you all day, that ult gives you insane AD and that E stuns like every 3 seconds and he's pretty good. This isn't even taking into account that while doing this he can permaheal your ADC or whatever | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On December 04 2013 22:18 Kenpark wrote: I havent tried spellvamp quints, but I dont think it will help that much vs Ziggs since your initial q damage is really low. You level shroud last obv so the mres/armor only helps when you are strong anyway. The problem vs strong poke is that you cant even cs under tower. Vs Ziggs specifically there are 2 things you want to do: 1. Avoid standing next to your own creeps - makes it easier for him to hit you+he pushes at the same time which is beneficial to him. 2. Never harass Ziggs with q before lvl 6, just hit your q's on minion (and make sure to proc them or the spellvamp is rather useless). Edit: Oh and obviously you start doran's shield. @Dusty I play in Diamond 1 and with the new season Akali's shroud does much more for her - people might not carry pinks for skirmishes because they have a pink elsewhere+the red trinket is usually just on 1 or 2 guys on the team and I've yet to have a game where more than 1 guy had it upgraded (this is obviously a mistake on their part, but on the other hand 475 gold is quite an investment midgame to reveal akali once every 1½ minutes or so). And as Shikyo mentioned, in lvl 18 the defensive stats shroud provides are HUGE. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
s3 Taric could already perma-heal, Shikyo. Even s2 Taric actually. You just needed ~30-40% CDR and something to keep auto-ing, and Imbue's downtime was reduced to something like 3 seconds. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 05 2013 00:24 Alaric wrote: Yeah, Taric was already actually quite good with money, much better than what people gave credit for. Thing is, when you've got such armour reduction that you basically drop a squishy to 0 or halve a bruiser's, and you have an up to 70 AD steroid, you tend to hurt even without building damage. s3 Taric could already perma-heal, Shikyo. Even s2 Taric actually. You just needed ~30-40% CDR and something to keep auto-ing, and Imbue's downtime was reduced to something like 3 seconds. I was a pioneer of permaheal. Now he can just dunk the enemy ADC in 2 hits and stun every 3s while building full tank. I wonder if his build could fit in a Muramana... | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
baller mode engaged. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
It's either Athenes + Gauntlet or Athenes + Frozen Heart + Trinity Force. Athenes + Gauntlet + Frozen Heart? Goes above CDR cap by 10 but not a big deal | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 05 2013 01:26 mordek wrote: Why not crucible in that case? The 12% mana regen per assist seems too good because 1. his mana pool will be high 2. in a skirmish where he's outnumbered he can still come out victorious if he has enough mana so just being able to kill one enemy can snowball the entire ~1v3 and let you come out victorious. But yeah if your ADC is fed for example and you're going to get to 35% CDR without athenes or whatever, it's probably not a bad choice | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On another note, does anyone else think that the game has had a negative power creep since s2? Rammus is really strong right now, by winrate. (probably partly because he's simple to play). I'm looking at the patch notes and at one point Rammus had more armor on his W and a longer Q, but he also got more movement speed on Q initially, and some mana and QoL changes. I'm wondering how strong he would be if they reverted all the changes they made to Rammus since 1.0.0.132 http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Rammus/Background Then again, Anivia hasn't been changed in years and her win rate has not changed afaik. | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 05 2013 01:35 obesechicken13 wrote: I don't know if Riot was aware how much they were buffing Taric this season. I think they were, and they really worried he'd be weak in the current patch where supports get more gold because they heard "Taric scales poorly into late game." He did, but they gave him a lot of cooldown and armor pen for free this patch. It's hilarious. Stack up armor -> Your whole team has 50 more armor and the whole enemy team 80 less armor. The mass armor(450-500) Taric could probably just press R and W and do nothing but basic attacks and watch his team decimate anyway. On December 05 2013 01:36 Ghost-z wrote: Muramana Taric was a beast when his passive scaled with mana. Now it sucks on him, just build armor and cdr to win. IBG and/or FH is pretty core on Taric. Toss in a health item like sunfire or randuins to round out his tankyness. Don't build Athenes on Taric, an early glacial is good enough for the mana. Disagree, you want to spam all your skills on minions so that your ult is instantly back up right after using it. He has mana issues even with Athenes. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 04 2013 20:46 EquilasH wrote: What? Akali's powercurve is at the top right when she gets gunblade+sorc's. Not to say her 6 item build isn't strong but she definitely doesn't NEED 6 items to be useful - neither does Poppy tbh, lol (Poppy just has NO waveclear and too high mana costs). Spellvamp quints+Doran's shield and hitting a lot of q's on creeps should be enough as long as you don't take every single skillshot to the face. I would say that would be true if she reached it at the same point everyone else did. The fact is her pre6 is so rough that her gunblade sorc shoes item timing arrives at when everyone else is at their 2 item timing. It's not like fizz where you only need lichbane to be relevant all game. If she doesn't hit gunblade timing early enough, she's behind all the way til 4 to 5 item timing. | ||
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