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rewired
Canada630 Posts
Feels like assassins aren't as effective in this patch as well as assassins I like such as Zed, Kha, and Ahri got nerfed :S meanwhile all the old top laners I played like Jax are back in style. What a mysterious patch. That and the map feels dark as shit at some points in the game. Finally: holy hell Trin force Lucian is monstrous. Any else feel like assassins just don't feel as effective in this patch (I may just suck).? | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On December 03 2013 12:16 Ryuu314 wrote: Eh. Only if Eve takes smite/exhaust or if the top laner has built in cc. Eve pre-6 has literally no cc to speak of outside of red buff, which isn't exactly the easiest to apply considering her gap-closer isn't amazing either. I take ignite on Eve, and her gap closer is extremely effective. Really, whose CC at top is going to stop Evelynn that early? Hardly any top laners have hard CC at level 2. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 03 2013 11:06 turdburgler wrote: it doesnt even matter to me if people decide shes op or not, shes completely toxic to the game. i know toxic is such an over used word in this game but all stealth mechanics are so binary in nature. to be 'balanced' when stealth has a chance to fail you need to be weak when it fails and strong when it doesnt, so if you dont see her coming, by design you are completely fucked, even in situations where you are strong enough to hold off other junglers, and if you do see her coming or whatever, shes worthless. they either need to make her stealth unfailable (remove pink wards, remove detection range etc) and then nerf her, or remove her stealth. i dont see any argument you can make for a 'it works most of the time' stealth mechanic being good for the game. I agree. I don't even think that most stealth champs are that strong (because Riot has mostly realized how strong stealth is and just destroyed their base stats/damages) but nothing was more annoying than than an all for 1 vs. 5x Wukong. Its so lame. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On December 03 2013 11:09 canikizu wrote: At 3 minutes, no one buys pink anyway. It's your job to hold back and prepare for 3 minute, 5 minutes gank. Bot lane you bought pinks. I bought pinsk for level 3 ganks by eve. /shrug. When I lane I go ham son. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On December 03 2013 12:19 kainzero wrote: Maybe you need to play with better people. My friends and I would constantly complain how poor we are as supports against an Eve. I would also buy pinks against Shacos. If I were mid, I would sometimes put a pink in the middle of the lane. This is actually the biggest change to me. I can't carry around a couple pinks and use one against a vayne ult or a twitch. Those previously counter able skills feel pretty helpless to deal with, and it makes all the characters with a stealth mechanic significantly stronger, not just Eve. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Kyrie
1594 Posts
On December 03 2013 12:40 Haiq343 wrote: This is actually the biggest change to me. I can't carry around a couple pinks and use one against a vayne ult or a twitch. Those previously counter able skills feel pretty helpless to deal with, and it makes all the characters with a stealth mechanic significantly stronger, not just Eve. why not? reactionary mid-fight pinking is the precisely the usage least impacted by the changes, as it only requires a single ward and the enemy will know exactly where it is then again it's unclear what you're talking about - putting a pink in the middle of the lane (significantly impacted by changes) is completely different from dropping a pink to counter vayne ult (not signficantly impacted), and either of these scenarios can apply to twitch | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 03 2013 13:03 Clinic wrote: why not? reactionary mid-fight pinking is the precisely the usage least impacted by the changes, as it only requires a single ward and the enemy will know exactly where it is then again it's unclear what you're talking about - putting a pink in the middle of the lane (significantly impacted by changes) is completely different from dropping a pink to counter vayne ult (not signficantly impacted), and either of these scenarios can apply to twitch If Pink wards had a huge radius that might be true. | ||
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UnKooL
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
So bad! Recently I got a kill on Rengar with it. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
I don't even know what the vision range is, if there were at least an indicator it would be nice. The ward being visible is enough, let it please have the same goddamn sight range it always has - it's way too short now. As for vs. evelynn, previously you'd just replace all [well, "most" if you're getting technical] of your green wards with pinks. That obviously is a flawed plan now. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On December 03 2013 13:26 UnKooL wrote: NA servers crapping out GG. Not just me? Thank god. It had been wrecking our ranked 5's team. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On December 03 2013 13:03 Clinic wrote: why not? reactionary mid-fight pinking is the precisely the usage least impacted by the changes, as it only requires a single ward and the enemy will know exactly where it is then again it's unclear what you're talking about - putting a pink in the middle of the lane (significantly impacted by changes) is completely different from dropping a pink to counter vayne ult (not signficantly impacted), and either of these scenarios can apply to twitch Also keep in mind that you can only carry 1 vision ward in your inventory, so if you drop your pink and they escape, it screws you over until you base again. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On December 03 2013 14:05 kainzero wrote: Also keep in mind that you can only carry 1 vision ward in your inventory, so if you drop your pink and they escape, it screws you over until you base again. This is the primary reason. Since pinks are essentially the 'only' anti-stealth/anti-ward and the trinket has a prohibitive cool down, not being able to have more than one on you when leaving the base is pretty obnoxious. And you can't say preemptively pink a bot-lane bush to catch a twitch unawares etc. The new pink wards 'best' use now is to try and sneak a semi-permanent ward over your jungle entrance or the like. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 03 2013 14:15 zulu_nation8 wrote: I'm afraid to take a non escape summoner on any jungler. People laughed at me for taking flash or ghost on shyv back when no one did it. Teleport rammoose so terror. I never expect the random ward teleport ganks. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On December 03 2013 14:39 wei2coolman wrote: Teleport rammoose so terror. I never expect the random ward teleport ganks. Yi TP ganks, then goes back to wriggles powerfarming jungle. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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eScapegoat100
Canada71 Posts
On December 03 2013 14:05 kainzero wrote: Also keep in mind that you can only carry 1 vision ward in your inventory, so if you drop your pink and they escape, it screws you over until you base again. Are you sure about this? I'm pretty sure I had 2 in my inventory today. | ||
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