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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 01 2013 19:37 JazzVortical wrote: I can't believe you're that committed to playing one champ. Guess you must really like Fiora. I wonder if they are somehow going to ruin her with the remake. | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
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Shiznick
United States2200 Posts
On December 01 2013 19:34 Kinie wrote: Honestly I'm waiting for someone to pick Kayle up again in a top/mid role. Going Athene's + CDR boots + CDR masteries means max CDR, all gained within a reasonable laning phase. Exit out of laning phase spamming E left and right, and your ult is on a 45-60s cooldown depending upon her level. Sure your AP and AS will be a bit low, but going Lich Bane into Nashor's tends to be just enough (at least whenever I played as her in ARAMs) to have her be a relevant damage dealer in teamfights by mid to late game. Not to mention her full build (Lich Bane + Nashors + Rabadon's + Void Staff + Athene's + CDR boots) means your first E should hit for like 700 on an AoE cleave, and every subsequent hit being anywhere from 200-450 in an AoE cleave, as an auto attack. damn that's hella wasted cdr in that build. when kayle was popular the build was just nashors, lichbane dcap, sorcs, no need for athenes & cdr boots. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
Taric top the new terror incoming (again) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Played vs a mass armor Gragas top. That E change has to be the most stupid shit ever. He has infinite sustain and a 6s cooldown E that does full dmg whenever I go in for a lasthit. I assume this is going to become popular after people catch on. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On December 01 2013 20:52 Shiznick wrote: damn that's hella wasted cdr in that build. when kayle was popular the build was just nashors, lichbane dcap, sorcs, no need for athenes & cdr boots. yeah dayum d00d. so much cdr!! you are about 20% above the cdr cap haha. I think banner of command is such a good item. 80 ap 20% cdr plus minions do 15% extra damage - all for 2400 gold with a pretty nice build up. ap splitpushers or really any ap that wants cdr but doesn't need dfg, athenes, or nashors shouldn't be getting this imo. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On December 01 2013 20:54 Shikyo wrote: Guinsoo's Rageblade is currently extremely good for Kayle. Played vs a mass armor Gragas top. That E change has to be the most stupid shit ever. He has infinite sustain and a 6s cooldown E that does full dmg whenever I go in for a lasthit. I assume this is going to become popular after people catch on. the only good kayle build is lich/nashors/dcap/void/zhonyas(ga), anything else is suboptimal. although technically rageblade is really good on her, just that there are definitely better options unless you're playing some weird (bad) hybrid/ad kayle | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
I'm personnaly something like 8-1 in ranked over the last weeks, if I took the time to play I really could have gotten that free Elise, I'm mad at myself. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 01 2013 19:15 GhandiEAGLE wrote: I'm still advocating the International Bank of Botlane. Ashe + GP, Gold Runes+Masteries, Hawkshot Max, start Relic Shield, and both rush Avarice Blade. So much wealth it's absurd. Plus Ashe is really great with Raise Morale. Btw, as a highlight/funfact, the Relic Shield heal and goldshare range is dictate by where the minion dies, not where the killer is. So Gangplank can ult across the map to kill a minion near an ally, and when the minion dies it will heal that ally all across the map. Starcall is a thing of the past thanks to Gangplank Global Heal. gold runes get worse the more gold you get from other sources, im thinking either armor quints or hp regen will become the norm for bot lane soon, im just too poor to experiment. On December 01 2013 20:54 Shikyo wrote: Guinsoo's Rageblade is currently extremely good for Kayle. Played vs a mass armor Gragas top. That E change has to be the most stupid shit ever. He has infinite sustain and a 6s cooldown E that does full dmg whenever I go in for a lasthit. I assume this is going to become popular after people catch on. how can this story be true when you claim to play fiora 100% of games | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 02 2013 00:02 turdburgler wrote: gold runes get worse the more gold you get from other sources, im thinking either armor qunits or hp regen will become the norm for bot lane soon, im just too poor to experiment. how can this story be true when you claim to play fiora 100% of games I played Fiora vs Gragas. also I got annoyed with being unable to carry with fiora, losing 8-2 games etc. so I played a game with akali. Fed like hell, went like 3-10-1 and got carried. Hrm. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35166 Posts
On December 02 2013 00:02 turdburgler wrote: gold runes get worse the more gold you get from other sources, im thinking either armor qunits or hp regen will become the norm for bot lane soon, im just too poor to experiment. how can this story be true when you claim to play fiora 100% of games Health is better than resists until 1500hp. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 01 2013 19:34 Kinie wrote: Not to mention her full build (Lich Bane + Nashors + Rabadon's + Void Staff + Athene's + CDR boots) means your first E should hit for like 700 on an AoE cleave, and every subsequent hit being anywhere from 200-450 in an AoE cleave, as an auto attack. The spellblade passive is an on-hit effect, it's only applied to the primary target and isn't included in the AoE damage. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35166 Posts
On December 02 2013 00:12 turdburgler wrote: and 1500 hp on supports is like minute 8-10 these days. By 8-10 minutes, your runes don't matter all that much. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
he's really fun and really good, and picked a lot in pro play so the real question is: how long until they nerf bhis ase stats, movespeed, Q and W base damages, W base MS addition, E cooldown, and ult ratio/dmg to minions? On a more serious note, if you like playing AD carry/mid (he's okay there vs some matchups) and don't play Lucian, PLAY LUCIAN On December 02 2013 00:23 Gahlo wrote: By 8-10 minutes, your runes don't matter all that much. I disagree, runes really matter until like 20-22 minutes in, somewhere around there when most champs have 2 items. Other hard-scaling stats (pretty much just armorpen) never really drop off especially if you have some other source of pen (bc/lw or nasus/renek/j4 etc) armorpen is probably the best scaling rune in the game that is actually usable. Unless we're being technical, in which case XP quints might be the best scaling when combined with a lot of perlevel runes (I'm pretty sure there was someone on this forum who ran shit like scaling ad reds, scaling armor yellows, and scaling mr/ap/cdr blues... LOL) | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On December 02 2013 00:30 nafta wrote: They will probably put a cd on his passive like sheen and nerf base damage slightly. Not Riot enough. Come on man, how new are you to this game??? | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 02 2013 00:23 Gahlo wrote: By 8-10 minutes, your runes don't matter all that much. wtf game are you playing ;D i think you are all crazy, 10 armor is always 10% dmg reduction no matter what stage of the game you are at. runes provide like 1000g of stats and that never changes. | ||
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