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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 01 2013 19:06 GMT
#961
Just introduce Stormherald into LoL as an item for bruisers. That would be balanced, right?
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 01 2013 19:08 GMT
#962
In MOBA-land we call it Cranium Basher, not Stormherald.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 01 2013 19:09 GMT
#963
Oh my gosh that's actually a thing hahahha I didn't even know

Fucking Skillherald.
It's your boy Guzma!
Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
November 01 2013 19:16 GMT
#964
Morganna support is going to be so good with these changes. She was already borderline viable purely due to how good shield is, esp against the slow moving CCs of many popular supports (Zyra Nami Janna esp.) Now she will be able to get items to be tanky enough to make using her ulti viable in teamfight situations.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
November 01 2013 19:28 GMT
#965
Anybody wanna join me in 3s in an attempt to get protoss spider?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 19:42:40
November 01 2013 19:37 GMT
#966
On November 02 2013 04:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 04:01 oneofthem wrote:
cc in lol is so powerful given the mega mega damage of everything being tossed about late game. a reliable hard cc item would be pretty powerful and expensive .

Why does it have to be reliable or hard CC? Why is it fundamentally more powerful than +CC duration on existing CCs?

doesn't have to be reliable cc. i was just talking about reliable cc, because it adds a powerful initiation tool on champs that may have the mobility etc to make great use of it.

imagine ahri or leblanc with a 1 second hex. a hard cc item wouldn't be a support item, it would be a burst assassin item.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 19:42:48
November 01 2013 19:42 GMT
#967
S4 PBE

Building the executioner's emblem on an ADC is probably a noob trap. You won't win any fights against either a Doran's Blade or LS+3 starter and just get zoned until your wave hits the tower. You'll be behind in your item builds and the extra gold you give your support probably won't offset what you missed from last hitting.

Now double bruiser or bruiser + support lanes would benefit from both players building executioners emblem. Since you'll likely be zoned from the wave anyway if you fall behind this will help somewhat mitigate that loss.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 19:53:12
November 01 2013 19:51 GMT
#968
On November 02 2013 03:57 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 03:47 canikizu wrote:
It's just a matter of writing description. Just throw some out, if players don't understand, they're gonna whine, then we fix ezpz until nooone whines anymore. Trial and error stuff. something like
UNIQUE passive suckforutobuyAPAD: Disable AP/AD scaling while casting spells/spells only do flat original amount of damage
UNIQUE passive cccity: increase the stun/knockback duration of your spell buy a flat amount of 0.5sec. The duration depends on the number of champion hit by it.

You're still just ignoring the question of how this is better design than a CC active.

And again, its still unclear optimization. Riot would have a fit over the idea of your stun duration being less for hitting a 5 person stun than for hitting a 1 person stun with the same spell.

cc active is not swag enough, too monotonic. You click on the item, you click on the enemy, he stuns, what's da play! The point of the item is to enhance the cc effect on a champ that already has existing cc, not to give another kind of cc. If champs like Soraka or Lucian don't have cc, then the item does nothing.

And again, it's still unclear optimization. So I can go wild watever I want and noone can prove mine is wrong also hehe.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 01 2013 19:53 GMT
#969
On November 02 2013 04:37 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 04:04 TheYango wrote:
On November 02 2013 04:01 oneofthem wrote:
cc in lol is so powerful given the mega mega damage of everything being tossed about late game. a reliable hard cc item would be pretty powerful and expensive .

Why does it have to be reliable or hard CC? Why is it fundamentally more powerful than +CC duration on existing CCs?

doesn't have to be reliable cc. i was just talking about reliable cc, because it adds a powerful initiation tool on champs that may have the mobility etc to make great use of it.

imagine ahri or leblanc with a 1 second hex. a hard cc item wouldn't be a support item, it would be a burst assassin item.

To add on to this, remember how op'd Cop was in S2, cuz phage procs op'd? Even slight cc is pretty big deal
liftlift > tsm
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
November 01 2013 20:05 GMT
#970
Has anyone noticed an improvement with Olaf toplane with the buffs?

I've played him a few games against squishy/dps toplanes, he completely dumps on them. Landing a max-range axe is much stronger than before with the 2.5 second slow. Also max-Q in general is much better for farming since the mana cost is significantly reduced at higher levels. Just can't spam axes pre-6.

I haven't tried any of my nightmare matchups though (renekton/riven), so I don't know how much the buffs have helped him there.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 01 2013 20:15 GMT
#971
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ppfiq/incarnati0n_keeping_the_community_uptodate/
An update on the incarnati0n situation, he's not unbanned quite yet but loads of pros are supporting him
Glorious SEA doto
MagnusWolf
Profile Joined November 2011
United States483 Posts
November 01 2013 20:24 GMT
#972
On November 02 2013 05:15 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ppfiq/incarnati0n_keeping_the_community_uptodate/
An update on the incarnati0n situation, he's not unbanned quite yet but loads of pros are supporting him


I really hope he stays banned. He had been perma-ed on 2 accounts before his lifetime ban. Plus he was caught DDOS-ing.
http://www.twitch.tv/magnuswolf sometimes I stream, sometimes I don't
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 20:46:20
November 01 2013 20:43 GMT
#973
On November 02 2013 04:16 Mauzel wrote:
Morganna support is going to be so good with these changes. She was already borderline viable purely due to how good shield is, esp against the slow moving CCs of many popular supports (Zyra Nami Janna esp.) Now she will be able to get items to be tanky enough to make using her ulti viable in teamfight situations.

Just reliably being able to get a Zhonyas in a reliably early time frame is enough, when currently gold demands propel Morgana into using her ulti strictly for peeling (which isn't as impactful as 5-man yolo flash ultis) for a good chunk of the mid-game unless she gets gold from some source.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 01 2013 20:44 GMT
#974
On November 02 2013 04:09 Requizen wrote:
Oh my gosh that's actually a thing hahahha I didn't even know

Fucking Skillherald.


Janna with Windfury Weapon buff pls.
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Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
November 01 2013 20:52 GMT
#975
Not sure if this belongs in here or the offtopic thread, but honestly I'm so glad Riot attempts to communicate things with the community. We get all this cool stuff about once a month, and especially now since its the end of the season we get so much more, and yet if you look at Valve their entire community is being ignored by Valve, its kind of shameful really. So glad we have great rioters, even considering all the wrong things they've done/do.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
November 01 2013 21:03 GMT
#976
Riot definitely makes a fantastic effort to project a great image and interact with their fanbase, which is a huge contributing factor to why they've been so successful. No one feels bad about buying their shit or giving them money, because everyone (rightfully!) pretty much loves riot.

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop in a few years when turns out their server farms all run on puppy organs or something :o
:3
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 01 2013 21:03 GMT
#977
On November 02 2013 05:15 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ppfiq/incarnati0n_keeping_the_community_uptodate/
An update on the incarnati0n situation, he's not unbanned quite yet but loads of pros are supporting him


Never heard of em.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 01 2013 21:03 GMT
#978
On November 02 2013 06:03 Eiii wrote:
Riot definitely makes a fantastic effort to project a great image and interact with their fanbase, which is a huge contributing factor to why they've been so successful. No one feels bad about buying their shit or giving them money, because everyone (rightfully!) pretty much loves riot.

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop in a few years when turns out their server farms all run on puppy organs or something :o

They'd still be more loved than Hi Rez hue
It's your boy Guzma!
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 01 2013 21:05 GMT
#979
On November 02 2013 05:44 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 04:09 Requizen wrote:
Oh my gosh that's actually a thing hahahha I didn't even know

Fucking Skillherald.


Janna with Windfury Weapon buff pls.


Stormherald+Windufry=Rogue on a stick of the BC era..
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 21:16:05
November 01 2013 21:06 GMT
#980
On November 02 2013 06:03 Eiii wrote:
Riot definitely makes a fantastic effort to project a great image and interact with their fanbase, which is a huge contributing factor to why they've been so successful. No one feels bad about buying their shit or giving them money, because everyone (rightfully!) pretty much loves riot.

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop in a few years when turns out their server farms all run on puppy organs or something :o

I more or less feel ambiguously about Riot because I don't agree with some of the changes they've done, and I still remember things like Riot effectively nerfing IP gain in season one or pre-season one, but I buy RP anyway, because I like certain skins, and I like being able to buy 6300 champions without having to play the equivalent of like 60 games before I can do so.

edit: I also think that the "free to play" model of video games is probably one of the worst things that's ever happened in video games.
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