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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 10:40:18
November 13 2013 10:40 GMT
#3041
yeah you should try to get good at 1 or 2 champions
If you try hard you'll be diamond well before you get good reach that goal
just need a few back ups if you don't get the main 2 roles you want or that champ is picked/banned

easiest way to learn how other champs work is to look up all their skills in lolwiki and figure out their strengths weaknesses from those numbers+your experience. Playing them once or twice will help but not nearly as much as you think (it will just tell you playing an "op" champ isn't always as easy to carry as you think it is)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 13 2013 10:40 GMT
#3042
I don't think you need to give Emu the lecture on how to learn the game. He's been through this all before with a certain other game after all.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 13 2013 10:41 GMT
#3043
I have no idea who he is
and having a big champ pool is just spreading shit all over the wall imo
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 10:44:13
November 13 2013 10:41 GMT
#3044
I actually think I only ever bought ip boosts with the free rp they give you + some random 5 rp cards. I never wanted skins so those were pretty much the only thing I could buy.

still only ever bought champs. And filled out my my two rune pages with the bare minimum for a ap and ad page.

edit: I should disclaimer that I got into league after I knew I'd be going into the peace corps so being competitive was NOT a priority. I just wanted to play and own all the champs.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 13 2013 10:44 GMT
#3045
On November 13 2013 19:41 Slayer91 wrote:
and having a big champ pool is just spreading shit all over the wall imo

That's only if your only motivating factor is raising rank and getting better at the game. I think it's totally reasonable to want to have more champs to play just because you can't stand playing the same thing over and over again in a short time span. Especially given that Emulator is coming from DotA where it's pretty normal to random every game, or to go 300+ games without ever playing any one hero more than 10 times.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 13 2013 10:47 GMT
#3046
On November 13 2013 19:40 TheYango wrote:
I don't think you need to give Emu the lecture on how to learn the game. He's been through this all before with a certain other game after all.

I've read more derisive than praising comments on him in a certain other subforum though. :x
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 10:50:03
November 13 2013 10:48 GMT
#3047
well if you wanna goof around sure but most people go ranked and get nervous and make plans and tryhard and shit
they think of champ pools as something professional and having a array of "tools" at your disposal

its more like having different lengths of sticks instead of making 1 decent spear

the people who get bored playing the same champs are usually the same people who are stuck at the same elo because getting bored has a lot to do with not thinking and learning new things and playing a new champ forces you to learn new things and experiment while doing it with a champ you play a lot requires deeper thought and a lot of questioning of your tried and true methods
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 10:57:25
November 13 2013 10:55 GMT
#3048
Somehow enjoying playing different heroes became a negative reflection on one's character, depth of thought about the game and willingness to improve?

Like I get that role rigidity and "main"-ing particular champs is thoroughly ingrained into the player culture for LoL, but really?
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Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
November 13 2013 10:56 GMT
#3049
Hahaha just found this threat and have a question: Why is it blacklisted to ask what a tank is? XD
I have to explain this every time when I teach someone the basics of LOL...
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 10:59:20
November 13 2013 10:57 GMT
#3050
On November 13 2013 19:40 TheYango wrote:
I don't think you need to give Emu the lecture on how to learn the game. He's been through this all before with a certain other game after all.



No idea who he is, but you gotta remember that one's answer shouldn't just apply to the person you're responding too. Maybe other people found the advice helpful.


On November 13 2013 19:44 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 19:41 Slayer91 wrote:
and having a big champ pool is just spreading shit all over the wall imo

That's only if your only motivating factor is raising rank and getting better at the game. I think it's totally reasonable to want to have more champs to play just because you can't stand playing the same thing over and over again in a short time span. Especially given that Emulator is coming from DotA where it's pretty normal to random every game, or to go 300+ games without ever playing any one hero more than 10 times.




Shame on you, comparing DotA to LoL! I wouldn't know whether it's common or not to spam champions in DotA but in LoL it's very normal (hell even mandatory imo), so you see, my advice was actually pretty legit.
hi
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 13 2013 10:57 GMT
#3051
Because we had the discussion over and over and over and people couldn't agree to a definition, so it was decided to blacklist it over having to deal with it periodically. I think we're more reasonable regarding this nowadays though (some would say that we simply produce less actual discussion content too).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 13 2013 10:58 GMT
#3052
On November 13 2013 19:56 Big-t wrote:
Hahaha just found this threat and have a question: Why is it blacklisted to ask what a tank is? XD
I have to explain this every time when I teach someone the basics of LOL...

Because it incites a discussion that we've had at various points in the history of the subforum countless times, and for which there's adequate discussion if one merely thinks to use the search button before posting.
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Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
November 13 2013 11:10 GMT
#3053
On November 13 2013 19:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 19:56 Big-t wrote:
Hahaha just found this threat and have a question: Why is it blacklisted to ask what a tank is? XD
I have to explain this every time when I teach someone the basics of LOL...

Because it incites a discussion that we've had at various points in the history of the subforum countless times, and for which there's adequate discussion if one merely thinks to use the search button before posting.


Ok that sounds like sense^^

on topic:
As Ahri is my main char I don´t really like this patch, but reading through these changes I saw something I don´t understand. I mostly play unranked and just for fun so I don´t have any ideas of any pro builds. What do they mean with "all-in" in LOL? Is this a playstyle, an itembuild or is it because her Q and E are skill shots??

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Make Ahri’s default lane patterns more clear, so both Ahri and her opponents can make plays around them

Make Ahri’s “all-in” gameplay more closely tied with landing Charm to establish Charm as Ahri’s “kiss of death” that needs to be avoided, as well as lower her threat/presence while Charm is on cooldown

Keep Ahri’s core gameplay intact while trimming away strength from the low-gameplay patterns that don’t feel rewarding
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 11:21:01
November 13 2013 11:19 GMT
#3054
All-in means using everything you got, hitting everything. For ahri an ideal all-in combo would be E -> Q -> ignite and W -> R


The reason they changed around on her abilities is to make it more rewarding for skilled players to hit their charm. Previously you could really go in with R, W and Q and just derp around and still get kills. Now you NEED to land the charm in order to all-in.
hi
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 13 2013 11:20 GMT
#3055
The charm change makes it so ahri can't foxfire => spirit rush => dfg and kill someone as easily without landing charm.

She's using all of her abilities with dfg and possibly ignite. Depending on the map location Ahri also gives up mobility from spirit rush being on cd or putting her near an enemy tower.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 13 2013 11:23 GMT
#3056
On November 13 2013 19:44 TheYango wrote:
is coming from DotA where it's pretty normal to random every game, or to go 300+ games without ever playing any one hero more than 10 times.

Bulldog never got that memo.
The legend of Darien lives on
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
November 13 2013 11:33 GMT
#3057
And look at him now, winning Defense 3. What a boss.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 13 2013 11:38 GMT
#3058
i'[ve been wondering for a bit and haven't seen it discussed really...what is the absolute worst skill in the game? skarner e?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
November 13 2013 11:51 GMT
#3059
Ranked games is up for SEA server and now its is possible to drop tiers? no more Tier V troll?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 13 2013 12:01 GMT
#3060
Skarner's E isn't a terrible skill. It's just that levels in W and Q are so important and his mana restrictions hurt him big time.

What other champs completely skip an ability though? Ezreal W and Sona E?
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