[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 151

On November 13 2013 12:10 wei2coolman wrote:
Is shy jungle supposed to be scary? Just play lee sin.

On November 13 2013 12:11 iCanada wrote:
Is anyone else worried that S4 will be a really boring boring game for junglers?

With everyone getting a ward for free at all times, and with the additional camps... I can honestly see it just being silly. Only junglers that can put out any pressure with every single exit to their jungle being covered are Evelynn and Shaco without using a ton of Mana/time to bypass wards. Even like Zac/Aatrox/Lee/Vi/J4, thats a solid 40+ seconds of CD time and for some half their mana bar to bypass a ward. What kind of garbage tier players are in derpy easy to gank scenarios for that long?

Aside from that I guess maybe Kha'Zix/Rengar/Nocturne/Panth/Fiddles post 6, no one can really gank unless your support is a Thresh.

I dont even think as a Jungler you can really even counterjungle hard anymore with that many wards on the map guaranteed. If the gold gains in Jungle are decent I could just see like straight up Karthus Jungle being a thing. How you going to punish that? Before you could just outhtink them, take their stuff, and keep them sewered without gold. Now it just like... you can't at all unless enemy team is just derpy and isn't putting down their free wards.

Am I overthinking things, or do any other junglers feel shafted? Even if I get way more gold in the game, I feel like my impact as a jungler is considerably lower.

On November 13 2013 12:17 cLutZ wrote:


IDK, she is super FOTM and is not fun for my usual junglers like Jarvan and Amumu. I suck at the Lee, ping too high to do Ward hops consistently.

On November 13 2013 12:30 Cheap0 wrote:
The warding trinket's duration actually isn't very long at all. It's 60 sec until the enemy hits level 9, then it's 90 sec. To upgrade it to a regular ward (or a vision ward), they have to spend 475 gold after hitting level 9 on their trinket. Also, the trinket has a 120 second cooldown, so if they try to cut corners and not buy wards, you'll have plenty of opportunity to punish it. You also have the Sweeper Trinket available to kill wards with if you so choose to take it.

On November 13 2013 12:08 Slusher wrote:
Is this Ranked after it came back up, or Normals while it was down?

a lot of players play one or the other so their mmr for the opposite is screwy, if it was after ranked was back up idk but I have no had your problem no.

On November 13 2013 12:07 cLutZ wrote:
Why don't more people pick Nasus into Shyvana (jungle particularly)? It has seemed to work for me a bunch of times today since I really don't like playing Nunu jungle that much, and he is the only other "counter" to Shy Jungle that I know of.

On November 13 2013 08:07 AsnSensation wrote:
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On November 13 2013 13:02 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:


why is nasus a shyvana counter specifically? ms slow?

On November 13 2013 12:11 Slusher wrote:
lvl 1-30 is really boring and off putting but at the same time, it protects (moreso than if it didn't exist) the proletarian players from Smurfing. It could most certianly be shortened though.