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양학하러왔습니다 (Apdo's team) controversy

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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 04:14:33
October 22 2013 03:27 GMT
#1
Many korean netizens were complaining about 양학하러왔습니다 to be able to join OGN because Apdo and three others of his team were known elo boosters.

Jpak summarized it pretty good.
On October 22 2013 09:36 jpak wrote:
Well according to what I read, Riot Korea has said pretty much that "The rule currently is that summoners are only prevented from playing in tournaments during the time of their ban. Since apdo and team served their ban, they are not prevented from participating."

Riot Korea also said, however, that they're discussing (T/N I think internally and with partners) a set of rules regarding incidents like the Monster Gaming elo boost incident, and that they will announce it in the near future.

Needless to say, this is a controversy among Korean netizens right now.


Apparently Apdo received a 1000 year ban and this will probably result that we will dont see him at OGN offline qualifiers. If his team gets DQ I am not sure.

Edit:

Riot stated that he is banned from Riot tournaments till Season 5 (2 years).
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 22 2013 03:34 GMT
#2
they really go in with these bans. but didn't some of the current progamers also have toxic reputations/behavior in the past, guys like insec
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 22 2013 03:39 GMT
#3
On October 22 2013 12:34 oneofthem wrote:
they really go in with these bans. but didn't some of the current progamers also have toxic reputations/behavior in the past, guys like insec

but not elo boosting for money.

Korean netizens are happy right now
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 22 2013 04:05 GMT
#4
1k years ban, is LoL still alive by then?
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 22 2013 04:14 GMT
#5
updated OP with Riot statement that he is banned for two years till Season 5
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 22 2013 04:15 GMT
#6
hope t1 will sign 'it now' as a trainee this guy seems very promising as an adc
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 22 2013 04:19 GMT
#7
Hopefully Apdo becomes their proxy coach and they make it to OGN with their sub.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 22 2013 04:25 GMT
#8
didn't Lilballz more or less got forced to retired due to ELOboosting?
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 04:35:13
October 22 2013 04:33 GMT
#9
On October 22 2013 13:05 justiceknight wrote:
1k years ban, is LoL still alive by then?

is apdo alive? i hope not.


also with the elo boosting thing it seems that there has to be a bigger support network behind the actual players doing the boosting for the whole business to run. why not go after those guys more. in the lilballz case it seems garena turns a blind eye in terms of creating active countermeasures, but when a prominent player is implicated they have to hand out harsh punishment to pacify the public anger over the issue and appear as doing something about the problem.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
October 22 2013 04:35 GMT
#10
wow what a bummer
i wanted to see apdo kass competitively so bad aughghghghghgh

Writerman what
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 22 2013 05:22 GMT
#11
elo boosting is no secret here in singapore. garena staff are aware and some use the services themselves
cool beans
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
October 22 2013 05:27 GMT
#12
A 1000 year ban that seems slightly excessive.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 22 2013 05:37 GMT
#13
On October 22 2013 14:27 thezanursic wrote:
A 1000 year ban that seems slightly excessive.

its just a perm acc ban
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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
October 22 2013 15:31 GMT
#14
This also means that Apdo will not be able to participate in IeSF 2013 in Romania.
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RubberWU
Profile Joined October 2013
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 15:47:35
October 22 2013 15:47 GMT
#15
On October 23 2013 00:31 jpak wrote:
This also means that Apdo will not be able to participate in IeSF 2013 in Romania.


Is there more information about this tournament? which team will participate?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
October 22 2013 16:45 GMT
#16
it's pretty dumb lol if you're gonna ban for elo boosting you should ban half of the people on NA teams ~_~
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
October 22 2013 17:26 GMT
#17
Double standards and korean netizens kicked up a fuss so riot korea pandered to their tastes
Hey! Listen!
jaymik
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)425 Posts
October 22 2013 17:32 GMT
#18
RIP bm ceremonies
jaymik kr/na
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
October 22 2013 20:43 GMT
#19
He's streaming on smurf http://dostream.lab.so/#/stream/afreeca/pyobon10
His broadcast title is " Reaching solo q rank 1", his smurf is diamond 5 I think but with high mmr
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 22 2013 20:54 GMT
#20
On October 22 2013 12:39 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 12:34 oneofthem wrote:
they really go in with these bans. but didn't some of the current progamers also have toxic reputations/behavior in the past, guys like insec

but not elo boosting for money.

Korean netizens are happy right now


Actually a lot of the pros in the NA/EU LCS were known for ELO boosting. It's just Riot only started actively caring this year so they get off the hook for free. It's terrible double standards and rather disgusting honestly.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 03:38:20
October 23 2013 02:48 GMT
#21
On October 23 2013 05:43 UnKooL wrote:
He's streaming on smurf http://dostream.lab.so/#/stream/afreeca/pyobon10
His broadcast title is " Reaching solo q rank 1", his smurf is diamond 5 I think but with high mmr

can't get this to work. what's his new id?

edit: seems like his new id is "압도아님"
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 23 2013 19:42 GMT
#22
iirc riot drew a line where when they first made the rule in NA saying, "this is a list of known Elo boosters, they get a slap on the wrist now. anybody who elo boosts from this point on will be permabaned." so if that announcement was taken at face value to have applied to all regions the punishments would be reasonably consistent
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
LadyCatherine
Profile Joined June 2013
United States2 Posts
October 24 2013 02:20 GMT
#23
On October 23 2013 05:43 UnKooL wrote:
He's streaming on smurf http://dostream.lab.so/#/stream/afreeca/pyobon10
His broadcast title is " Reaching solo q rank 1", his smurf is diamond 5 I think but with high mmr


I downloaded Silverlight, but I still can't seem to watch the stream. Is there any thing I have to do?
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 24 2013 03:22 GMT
#24
On October 24 2013 11:20 LadyCatherine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:43 UnKooL wrote:
He's streaming on smurf http://dostream.lab.so/#/stream/afreeca/pyobon10
His broadcast title is " Reaching solo q rank 1", his smurf is diamond 5 I think but with high mmr


I downloaded Silverlight, but I still can't seem to watch the stream. Is there any thing I have to do?

use internet explorer and its not live right now
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 24 2013 07:08 GMT
#25
did he get banned again? lol
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
October 24 2013 10:28 GMT
#26
On October 22 2013 12:27 Chexx wrote:


Riot stated that he is banned from Riot tournaments till Season 5 (2 years).


I think we are missing the bigger picture here.........

Season five confirmed?!?!?!?!
scCassius
Profile Joined March 2011
United States254 Posts
October 24 2013 20:45 GMT
#27
On October 24 2013 19:28 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 12:27 Chexx wrote:


Riot stated that he is banned from Riot tournaments till Season 5 (2 years).


I think we are missing the bigger picture here.........

Season five confirmed?!?!?!?!


Why wouldn't it be?

Unless sarcasm
in which case
ignore
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9135 Posts
October 26 2013 16:45 GMT
#28
I find it hilarious that he's banned for 2 years from OGN/Riot tournaments but he can play for South Korea's "national team" at IeSF - http://ie-sf.com/en/tournaments/2013_players.php
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 21:16:49
October 28 2013 21:04 GMT
#29
Wow just read a comment on Reddit about all this. I did not realize that Korean attention whores(Heesama) were so far beyond their western counterparts. This whole situation is pretty embarrassing.

edit: Does Riot KR respond to Inven in the same way that Riot responds to Reddit? In how top posts get their attention.
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yukim
Profile Joined October 2013
United States47 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 21:27:18
October 28 2013 21:26 GMT
#30
That was my post and it got deleted Guess they didn't like the pics, it's not like I mentioned her summoner or real name though!

And Riot KR doesn't respond to inven like Rioters do on league but they definitely pay attention to what's popular on the boards.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 28 2013 22:57 GMT
#31
how long does military time last? apdo can go do that and wait out his ban
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
yukim
Profile Joined October 2013
United States47 Posts
October 28 2013 23:26 GMT
#32
Military duty is two years I think. Thing is Apdo postponed his service date to March or something to play League lol

He's been playing a lot on his secret account; it's currently plat with a nice record.
jaymik
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)425 Posts
October 29 2013 02:10 GMT
#33
21 months for the army. sucks they took your post down
jaymik kr/na
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
October 29 2013 02:37 GMT
#34
What apdo would've been if he didn't boost. Oh well...
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 01 2013 23:52 GMT
#35
apdo's almost challenger again...

http://op.gg/summoner/userName=Tar ar ais

looks like they are letting him play
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
November 01 2013 23:59 GMT
#36
On November 02 2013 08:52 oneofthem wrote:
apdo's almost challenger again...

http://op.gg/summoner/userName=Tar ar ais

looks like they are letting him play


well they can't just randomly ban someone with good stats under the suspicion that is apdo... looks like he finally picked up someone outside off Ez/TF/Zed/Diana though, never seen him play Ori before
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 00:17:42
November 02 2013 00:17 GMT
#37
So is duoing with someone bringing them to Diamond I also considered elo-boosting?
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
November 02 2013 02:46 GMT
#38
On November 02 2013 09:17 MrMercuG wrote:
So is duoing with someone bringing them to Diamond I also considered elo-boosting?

no not when everybody plays on his/her own account
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yukim
Profile Joined October 2013
United States47 Posts
November 02 2013 20:27 GMT
#39
His summoner name means 'I'll be back' in Irish apparently lol
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 21:59:27
November 02 2013 21:59 GMT
#40
apdo the legendary warrior Diarmid and his fateful encounter with hee-sama, the obsessive Gráinne whose fatal attraction to the hero led to his downfall at the hands of


Fionn.

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
November 02 2013 23:09 GMT
#41
On November 03 2013 06:59 oneofthem wrote:
apdo the legendary warrior Diarmid and his fateful encounter with hee-sama, the obsessive Gráinne whose fatal attraction to the hero led to his downfall at the hands of


Fionn.


Tbh I don't know what I expected here. :|
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 03 2013 00:43 GMT
#42
Keep hearing about apdo, how good is this guy? Faker good?
liftlift > tsm
HoMM
Profile Joined July 2010
Estonia635 Posts
November 03 2013 02:05 GMT
#43
On November 03 2013 09:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Keep hearing about apdo, how good is this guy? Faker good?


Yes.
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MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
November 03 2013 09:10 GMT
#44
On November 03 2013 09:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Keep hearing about apdo, how good is this guy? Faker good?


In terms of mechanics, yes.

I've seen this guy just decimate pro players in mid lane 1v1 without jungler help.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
November 03 2013 11:25 GMT
#45
On November 03 2013 09:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Keep hearing about apdo, how good is this guy? Faker good?


No. He's very well versed in how to win games in solo-que, but he himself admitted multiple times that he'd be out of his depth competing against high calibre professionals due to the vastly different nature of professional games and solo-que games.

In terms of pure "gaming potential", as vague as that term is, I personally felt that he doesn't even compare remotely to the talent displayed by Faker during his amateur days. He's good, there's no doubt about that, but his mechanics doesn't particularly stand out even when compared to someone like DosoO (another famous amateur player), and Apdo has owned up to being worse than DosoO when he started getting famous, before his ego took over.

However, it's not a stretch to say that the guy understands how solo-que works better than almost anybody in the world, and if someone were to host a tournament to see which player can get ELO-boost most efficiently, he'd be a match for Faker. If someone were to stage a tournament to see which player comes out on top after building a team around the mid-laner, Faker will piss all over Apdo.
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W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
November 03 2013 12:10 GMT
#46
he has the laning and soloqueue mechanics, but you need quite a bit more to become pro. Don't think he has the teamwork, trust, and leadership
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