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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
September 10 2013 08:19 GMT
#1541
I do want to add though that the current style of support is the most fun I've ever had playing. I enjoy 5th position and don't want any gold. I want my strategy to be "how can I impact this game without any gold?".
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 10 2013 08:22 GMT
#1542
On September 10 2013 15:49 TheYango wrote:
You're basically saying that even if Sword flies over, all 5 players get food poisoning from American food, and end up playing their series vs. TSM/Vulcun totally feverish and delusional and having been unable to play a single game in the days leading up to their games, they would still beat them?

That's an even harsher assessment than I would have been willing to give.

I'd still all in on swords. I'm not addicted to saltybets. Nope.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 10 2013 08:22 GMT
#1543
On September 10 2013 16:56 TheYango wrote:
KR in general has a larger number of teams that consistently draft coherent and sensible team compositions, and in general their technical play tends to be cleaner on the whole than at least NA (other regions could be debatable, and in particular I don't watch enough EU LCS to make that particular comparison). I don't know what you're watching where you believe laning phase is KR's only advantage.

[.


I mostly agree. But I literally just watched G4 of SKT v. KTB and it was a shitshow for KTB basically. They lost the game by piling, 1 but at a time, into a teamfight, not at dragon, not at a tower, but just in midlane. Shit like that seems to happen more often in KR than anywhere else.

On one had I could say, "that is because KR teams are better at capitalizing on that idiocy" ( I think that is true). Or you could say, "that is exactly what Regi does all the time and we rip on him for it, NA teams are too cautious for that" (kinda true, i do think they are generally more risk-averse). Korea, you have to admit, has a habit of doing these weird, basically pseduo-skirmishes, where one team has obviously lost at the 2 seconds mark, but they keep going for it for the next 5-10 seconds and lose 3 more members, and thus lose the game.
Freeeeeeedom
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
September 10 2013 08:22 GMT
#1544
You guys are all wrong, All Star meant A LOT !
NA mids are underwhelming ? Trololol Regibro will crush your faces with his legendary blue card TF..
Also, NA adc >>> EU adc, Zuna will show you that by rocket jumping into the whole enemy team and getting an easy penta.
GG EU scrubs, see you next year !
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 10 2013 08:24 GMT
#1545
On September 10 2013 17:22 Lylat wrote:
You guys are all wrong, All Star meant A LOT !
NA mids are underwhelming ? Trololol Regibro will crush your faces with his legendary blue card TF..
Also, NA adc >>> EU adc, Zuna will show you that by rocket jumping into the whole enemy team and getting an easy penta.
GG EU scrubs, see you next year !

If allstars were treated more like the world cup or world baseball classic it would be more legitimate.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 10 2013 08:25 GMT
#1546
It's sort of disingenuous to base your assessment on game 4 of a Bo5 when there hasn't *been* a game 4 of a Bo5 in an NA tournament.

With the exception of stand-out teams that are exceptionally good at playing series games, every player/team shows a significant decrease in play quality once they reach the latter 2 games of a Bo5, so it's very misleading to compare how a team in one region plays in the 4th game to Bo1 or Bo3 play in another region.
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 08:33:00
September 10 2013 08:31 GMT
#1547
This is a completely random question, that isn't even that league related, but..

What is your preferred music to listen to while playing? Now, if it's just your favorite genre then I'm not interested. As an example, I don't actually have a favorite genre of music in general but when it comes to LoL I love old-time crooner music for some reason. And on the other side of the spectrum stuff like Ratatat works extremely well to get me in the mood too.

Crooner and softer music tends to just relax me and make me aware of the map/teamates without really having to focus on them while simultaneously making it hard for me to rage at teamates.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 10 2013 08:33 GMT
#1548
On September 10 2013 17:25 TheYango wrote:
It's sort of disingenuous to base your assessment on game 4 of a Bo5 when there hasn't *been* a game 4 of a Bo5 in an NA tournament.

With the exception of stand-out teams that are exceptionally good at playing series games, every player/team shows a significant decrease in play quality once they reach the latter 2 games of a Bo5, so it's very misleading to compare how a team in one region plays in the 4th game to Bo1 or Bo3 play in another region.


What I described was also basically every member of Blaze, except Flame, in every game of the last two series I saw.

The point is, I agree with you, but my opinion is more malleable. While you seem to be saying that you will think Koera is the best region even if they get trucked at worlds, I think that they won't, but have an open mind if they do.
Freeeeeeedom
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 10 2013 08:35 GMT
#1549
On September 10 2013 17:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
This is a completely random question, that isn't even that league related, but..

What is your preferred music to listen to while playing? Now, if it's just your favorite genre then I'm not interested. As an example, I don't actually have a favorite genre of music in general but when it comes to LoL I love old-time crooner music for some reason. And on the other side of the spectrum stuff like Ratatat works extremely well to get me in the mood too.

Crooner and softer music tends to just relax me and make me aware of the map/teamates without really having to focus on them while simultaneously making it hard for me to rage at teamates.


personally
http://www.ah.fm/forum/

plays trance sets 24/7 excellent music
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
September 10 2013 08:36 GMT
#1550
On September 10 2013 17:22 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 16:56 TheYango wrote:
KR in general has a larger number of teams that consistently draft coherent and sensible team compositions, and in general their technical play tends to be cleaner on the whole than at least NA (other regions could be debatable, and in particular I don't watch enough EU LCS to make that particular comparison). I don't know what you're watching where you believe laning phase is KR's only advantage.

[.


I mostly agree. But I literally just watched G4 of SKT v. KTB and it was a shitshow for KTB basically. They lost the game by piling, 1 but at a time, into a teamfight, not at dragon, not at a tower, but just in midlane. Shit like that seems to happen more often in KR than anywhere else.

On one had I could say, "that is because KR teams are better at capitalizing on that idiocy" ( I think that is true). Or you could say, "that is exactly what Regi does all the time and we rip on him for it, NA teams are too cautious for that" (kinda true, i do think they are generally more risk-averse). Korea, you have to admit, has a habit of doing these weird, basically pseduo-skirmishes, where one team has obviously lost at the 2 seconds mark, but they keep going for it for the next 5-10 seconds and lose 3 more members, and thus lose the game.


I think one reason that teams prolong those skirmishes is that both sides are so strong mechanically. They both genuinely believe they can outplay eachother and win the fight for their team
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
September 10 2013 08:47 GMT
#1551
I can see Vulcun going farther than c9 at worlds
I think they are excellent at stomping teams that lack pressure, so pretty much all NA. But going into worlds they going to get to play teams with stronger lanes and map rotations. Also it's a team that doesn't know how to lose, everyone is buddy buddy and life is easy when you win, but when you get into the losing part, on a grand stage, there is so much unknown factor...
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 08:51:15
September 10 2013 08:49 GMT
#1552
On September 09 2013 00:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I just wanted to post it cause it's funny how anti-LoL Kennigit is, haha.
Smite, HoN, LoL all have a Wukong as well. gg


It's actually getting ridiculous. You either have to assume that Kennigit is extremely uninformed and talks out of his ass or that he is actually knowledgeable but spreads misinformation on purpose. I have seen and heard so much shit from him already that I just find it simply offensive by now. If you'd actually believe what he says on different talkshows here and there, LoL would be a game that has 100 Million 12 year old casuals using it as a facebook substitute to socialize with their friends, but the tournament streams can barely break 100k concurrent globally combined.

Then you go back to reality, look at the Korean scene, and I just have to cringe.

Edit: Meh I realize I probably shouldn't have posted this comment, I actually don't want to stir this up again, feel free to ignore my harsh rambling and just put it off as "letting off some steam"...
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 10 2013 08:49 GMT
#1553
On September 10 2013 17:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
This is a completely random question, that isn't even that league related, but..

What is your preferred music to listen to while playing? Now, if it's just your favorite genre then I'm not interested. As an example, I don't actually have a favorite genre of music in general but when it comes to LoL I love old-time crooner music for some reason. And on the other side of the spectrum stuff like Ratatat works extremely well to get me in the mood too.

Crooner and softer music tends to just relax me and make me aware of the map/teamates without really having to focus on them while simultaneously making it hard for me to rage at teamates.


indie rock 95% of the time, metal 5% of the time
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 10 2013 08:51 GMT
#1554
On September 10 2013 17:47 SagaZ wrote:
I can see Vulcun going farther than c9 at worlds
I think they are excellent at stomping teams that lack pressure, so pretty much all NA. But going into worlds they going to get to play teams with stronger lanes and map rotations. Also it's a team that doesn't know how to lose, everyone is buddy buddy and life is easy when you win, but when you get into the losing part, on a grand stage, there is so much unknown factor...

Can't see how a team that chokes in playoffs with an ADC that has no idea how to position even when they're ahead on the highest ranged champion can make it that far.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 10 2013 08:52 GMT
#1555
On September 10 2013 17:49 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 00:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I just wanted to post it cause it's funny how anti-LoL Kennigit is, haha.
Smite, HoN, LoL all have a Wukong as well. gg


It's actually getting ridiculous. You either have to assume that Kennigit is extremely uninformed and talks out of his ass or that he is actually knowledgeable but spreads misinformation on purpose. I have seen and heard so much shit from him already that I just find it simply offensive by now. If you'd actually believe what he says on different talkshows here and there, LoL would be a game that has 100 Million 12 year old casuals using it as a facebook substitute to socialize with their friends, but the tournament streams can barely break 100k concurrent globally combined.

Then you go back to reality, look at the Korean scene, and I just have to cringe.

hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh this again? are you gonna go into a rage when totalbiscuit comes up too?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 08:54:27
September 10 2013 08:52 GMT
#1556
On September 10 2013 17:52 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 17:49 UmberBane wrote:
On September 09 2013 00:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I just wanted to post it cause it's funny how anti-LoL Kennigit is, haha.
Smite, HoN, LoL all have a Wukong as well. gg


It's actually getting ridiculous. You either have to assume that Kennigit is extremely uninformed and talks out of his ass or that he is actually knowledgeable but spreads misinformation on purpose. I have seen and heard so much shit from him already that I just find it simply offensive by now. If you'd actually believe what he says on different talkshows here and there, LoL would be a game that has 100 Million 12 year old casuals using it as a facebook substitute to socialize with their friends, but the tournament streams can barely break 100k concurrent globally combined.

Then you go back to reality, look at the Korean scene, and I just have to cringe.

hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh this again? are you gonna go into a rage when totalbiscuit comes up too?


Edited my comment already. It's just that at a certain point I can't laugh it off anymore, I realize that's not his fault but my own weakness.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 10 2013 08:53 GMT
#1557
Seems like Dyrus has been spamming Jax in SoloQ (9/10 last games in matchhistory) with some weird 9/0/21 setup apparently taken from a guy who has over 2400 jax games. Anyone watched how the games went?
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 10 2013 08:56 GMT
#1558
On September 10 2013 17:19 TheLink wrote:
I do want to add though that the current style of support is the most fun I've ever had playing. I enjoy 5th position and don't want any gold. I want my strategy to be "how can I impact this game without any gold?".


This can be possible while having support-orientated items. It's not one or the other. Both can/should be possible, but Riot's idea on what that position means is different from how the position is actually played.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 09:00:06
September 10 2013 08:59 GMT
#1559
My one anti-korean prediction will be that MVP Ozone will underperform. I cannot see them beating SKT T1 and at this point there's no doubt in my mind they are under the level of KT B. Not just because Homme can't always go to his tanky champions right now, but that Dade has had his champion pool neutered. TF, Ryze, and Ezreal are very subpar in this patch and you know Zed is going to be instaban. A big reason why MVP had the success they did was because Dade had stepped up his game immensely.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 10 2013 08:59 GMT
#1560
On September 10 2013 17:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
This is a completely random question, that isn't even that league related, but..

What is your preferred music to listen to while playing? Now, if it's just your favorite genre then I'm not interested. As an example, I don't actually have a favorite genre of music in general but when it comes to LoL I love old-time crooner music for some reason. And on the other side of the spectrum stuff like Ratatat works extremely well to get me in the mood too.

Crooner and softer music tends to just relax me and make me aware of the map/teamates without really having to focus on them while simultaneously making it hard for me to rage at teamates.

I bounce about on things with a positive/energetic feeling. Currently I'm on Kpop(I don't know korean, so what the lyrics actually are doesn't matter), before that it was dubstep, and before that ska. I'm interested to find out where my muse leads me next.
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