EPTedit: also I think at 2k+ games you would have pretty ample experience and I guess game sense for a few of the things above
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Canada12016 Posts
edit: also I think at 2k+ games you would have pretty ample experience and I guess game sense for a few of the things above | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On September 10 2013 00:14 BobMcJohnson wrote: I especially suck at laning. Haven't won a lane top or mid by myself against a competent opponent in a looong time. I guess the fact that I never stick to a champion for more than a few games doesn't help. If I were to pick one champion and grind 100+ games on it to learn how to lane correctly, what would be a good choice? Yes. There's a huge difference between a lane matchup that you've never played before and a lane matchup that you've played even just once. However since the game keeps changing you need to keep playing to stay 'up to date' on things. I've been playing for a long time too, but a lot of the old knowledge gets me in trouble because I fall back on it instead of checking a more recent guide/reference (or just thinking about it for like 10 seconds) e.g. assuming I can win any 1v1 past midgame with Jax, or thinking that that flash+ulting into the enemy team with Nunu is a good idea edit: a lot of my old knowledge sucks too, because I was a worse player and so was everyone else. Often when you are focusing on learning one thing it's good to start by "forgetting everything you know" | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On September 10 2013 00:14 BobMcJohnson wrote: How do you improve at this game? I'm approaching 2k games played since beta and I'm still stuck in Silver, and I feel like I'm just not improving at all. In sc2 I felt that although the game was harder mechanically, it was easier to have a plan, identify my mistakes in different areas and improve upon them, and even if I was still quite bad at it (diamond terran) I was learning from my losses and improving. Slowly, but still improving. In LoL I'm having a really hard time identifying my mistakes, and the few obvious one that I do I find myself repeating them over and over again anyways. I especially suck at laning. Haven't won a lane top or mid by myself against a competent opponent in a looong time. I guess the fact that I never stick to a champion for more than a few games doesn't help. If I were to pick one champion and grind 100+ games on it to learn how to lane correctly, what would be a good choice? check the tl inhouses | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On September 10 2013 00:14 BobMcJohnson wrote: If I were to pick one champion and grind 100+ games on it to learn how to lane correctly, what would be a good choice? Whichever one you enjoy playing enough not to give up before these dozens of games. Experience just gives so much, plus sometimes you're dumb so you don't think of obvious stuff. I was blindly doing flask start on Lulu because "I want mana to pressure and flask is so easily made worth it after one or two backs", not even realising that it doesn't give that much mana from 3 charges, and pots would actually outdo it if it gates me more than health. I even mentioned several times here that I manage to beat people up but by level 4 I'm nearly oom and generally have pressured and wounded them, but failed to force a back or gotten a kill. But I wondered if it was because I went too ham and should enlist my AD to do some more damage himself, and I needed somebody to post about how mass consumables starts wreck botlanes to put 2+2 (or "I take mana consumables to pressure early" and "Flask becomes worth it after only 1-2 backs") together and realise that if I started health+mana pots I'd be more powerful pre-first back and actually force these backs 1v2. There's stuff you'll learn or notice yourself by playing the same champ over and over. For the rest there're random TL obvious-stating posts. (I gotta try hybrid pen marks/quints now, hybrid pen marks/AD quints is so damn strong what.) | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
You may not always have the most ideal matchup, but that's okay. If you learn how your champion works, how to play from behind, how to not get slaughtered in an unfavorable matchup etc, you'll start finding that your lane mechanics gets a lot better. Your CS will get better with that champion, you'll be able to see kill potential that you couldn't see before, get out of bad situations where you wouldn't know what to do before, etc. I think at Silver league you should just have one champion for each role and only play them if available even if it's a matchup where you get countered. Team composition doesn't really matter at that level, the better mechanical players will win, and it's easiest to learn mechanics if you only play one guy. That's just my opinion though, I'm still a Gold league scrub ha! | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On September 10 2013 00:25 Flakes wrote: Yes. There's a huge difference between a lane matchup that you've never played before and a lane matchup that you've played even just once. Similarly, there's a huge difference between a champion you know well and a champion you just picked up to counterpick someone. You can almost always guarantee doing decent on the former, while not being familiar with a champion can be a death sentence. For instance, I can play Irelia in matchups I've never played before (like a random Voli top counterpick? [who the frack plays him top lol] last ranked game), but still do well because I know how she functions, and can win matchups just by knowing my champion. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 10 2013 00:50 Ketara wrote: Best way to learn how to lane better is to spam games with one champion. You may not always have the most ideal matchup, but that's okay. If you learn how your champion works, how to play from behind, how to not get slaughtered in an unfavorable matchup etc, you'll start finding that your lane mechanics gets a lot better. Your CS will get better with that champion, you'll be able to see kill potential that you couldn't see before, get out of bad situations where you wouldn't know what to do before, etc. I think at Silver league you should just have one champion for each role and only play them if available even if it's a matchup where you get countered. Team composition doesn't really matter at that level, the better mechanical players will win, and it's easiest to learn mechanics if you only play one guy. That's just my opinion though, I'm still a Gold league scrub ha! To piggyback on this - spam games indiscriminately and don't be concerned with winning. Keep your focus on improving individual mechanics. It's more of a long term benefit strategy, and you will notice yourself improving over time, even if you do get trashed for a few games. Your bad games will start to come fewer and farther between, and you will be more confident in your champion pick, even in unfavorable match ups. | ||
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craaaaack
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On September 09 2013 23:25 NeoIllusions wrote: http://en.intelextrememasters.com/news/league-of-legends-in-season-8/ Compared to S3, pre-S4 and S4 might have an international scene again. Not quite the caliber of IPL5 but it's a start. IEM only people doing it or are other organizations also going to be hosting? I was under the impression that Riot wants to host basically all the events. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
The fact that it's Howling Abyss also means that you won't get to back: if the game isn't finished by level 6, you'll get oom really fast if you're poked and have to ult for sustain. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
7. No NA team has ever won a match in the bracket stage against foreign teams ever since the start in S1 World Championships. CLG did win a match vs GAMED.DE in S1 but that was only for consolation to determine 5th/6th. Rather sad. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:19 Amui wrote: Found this interesting tidbit on reddit. 7. No NA team has ever won a match in the bracket stage against foreign teams ever since the start in S1 World Championships. CLG did win a match vs GAMED.DE in S1 but that was only for consolation to determine 5th/6th. Rather sad. CLG.NA got out of groups in champions summer 2012, they had by far the weakest group but they got out. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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GettingIt
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:29 GettingIt wrote: Why do so many rammus players build Madred's Razor? It only gives you some armor and they never complete it to wriggles which is worthless on him anyway. dat passive | ||
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