EPT[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 45
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On September 07 2013 21:49 qanik wrote: Ahri really needs a nerf to her base dmg or ap ratio, she is so out of hands right now. Seriously just look at her W, it's 280 base with 0.8 ratio on a 5 sec CD say what?! Her ult does 255 dmg + 1.05 AP AOE AND it gives insane mobility. Most ap don't even have that much single target dmg on their ult let alone the utility her ult has... People complain about zac and zed, but imo ahri is right up there with them. High base + scaling + mobility is the recipe for OPness, how is Riot not aware of it? Other champions with big single target nukes do 280 +.8 Leblanc has a 280 +1 and a 310 +.8 Veigar does 260 +.6 and gets a ton of extra AP off of it. Karma has a 300 +.6 Tristana has a 270+1 that also gives a heal debuff. Nidalee has a 575+1.62 for fucks sake. Not to mention Ahri doesn't always get all 3 foxfires to hit the same target. I definitely don't think Ahri is OP. Her single target burst is very strong and she has a lot of mobility (while her ult is up), but she's vulnerable while her ult is down, her AoE/clear is alright but not amazing, and she is very gankable pre 6. She is strong, but I think it's more like she's always been strong and other assassins (Khazix) got nerfed. If any mid laner needs to be nerfed atm it's Zed. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
so what'll it be? shoving mid so you can do wraiths and wolves over and over or shoving to roam in worlds? | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
The Gifs were off the charts. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 08 2013 00:26 Slusher wrote: unlike the sick plays in s2 worlds, that one time when Toyz got Scarra's big wrath OHHHH MAN. Dude that karthus farmed a wraith. THEN THE ORIANNA FARMED TWO SHIT SON IT GOT REAL. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On September 08 2013 00:26 Slusher wrote: unlike the sick plays in s2 worlds, that one time when Toyz got Scarra's big wrath OHHHH MAN. The Gifs were off the charts. but you know its like your opinion personally i liked jayce, he got completely dumpstered by nerfs and rework is on the way just because 1 item was too strong, at least gragas is comming back its the champ i love to watch who requires insane amount of skill also comparing lb burst to ahri and not looking overall on their kits is dumb | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 08 2013 00:16 Slusher wrote: I'm here to bring the hard truth friends, you might not like assassins like Osmoses but all the fans going crazy over Faker's big plays are able to do so because playmaking assassins like Ahri and Zed are at the top of the heap right now. so what'll it be? shoving mid so you can do wraiths and wolves over and over or shoving to roam in worlds? Meh, I like Ahri and Orianna the most out of the popular mids right now, from a viewing perspective. Fizz is alright, but sometimes you feel the rage flowing through your screen. Karthus is karthus, boring, but essential to midlane not being totally idiotic. Kassadin and Zed are stupid. Especially Zed, because its like Fizz, but even more spiteful because he wins early, and wins late, and wins midgame. Edit. Also, when you say you like zed, you really mean you like seeing a champ with 2+ gapclosers and a controlled untargetability during team fights or skirmishes. No reason a non-assassin can't have those mechanics (and actually be balancable !). | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
it's a little meh that semi final tickets haven't sold out yet. Riot should have both matches on the same I think. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On September 08 2013 00:38 kongoline wrote: but you know its like your opinion personally i liked jayce, he got completely dumpstered by nerfs and rework is on the way just because 1 item was too strong, at least gragas is comming back its the champ i love to watch who requires insane amount of skill also comparing lb burst to ahri and not looking overall on their kits is dumb I'm actually really sad about Jayce, BT Jayce is pretty balanced but nobody can see that through the fog of Jayce blowing people up with muramana+W from the 17 min point forward into 6 items at 25 min. The fact that Riot still thinks he needs a rework especially after the gate nerf is a mistake in my opinion but like you said, thats just my opinion. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 08 2013 00:48 Slusher wrote: I'm actually really sad about Jayce, BT Jayce is pretty balanced but nobody can see that through the fog of Jayce blowing people up with muramana+W from the 17 min point forward into 6 items at 25 min. The fact that Riot still thinks he needs a rework especially after the gate nerf is a mistake in my opinion but like you said, thats just my opinion. All they had to do was nerf muramana. I don't know why they refused to do that and instead gutted the champ :< | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On September 08 2013 00:48 Slusher wrote: I'm actually really sad about Jayce, BT Jayce is pretty balanced but nobody can see that through the fog of Jayce blowing people up with muramana+W from the 17 min point forward into 6 items at 25 min. The fact that Riot still thinks he needs a rework especially after the gate nerf is a mistake in my opinion but like you said, thats just my opinion. IE Jayce is actually quite scary too. His W works multiplicatively with crits for up to 1.3x and IE has more damage on autos than BT. They're both awkward buildups though and IE lacks sustain. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
IE is more damage with W yes, but BT is more damage with his kit as whole, reguardless the point still stands that both builds are balanced on pre gate nerf Jayce. p.s. I want to add that I don't think he's terrible at the moment so please don't confuse this with that. But I do think he's been reduced to situational, which is still an ok place to be. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Lissandra, Orianna, Lux, Nidalee, Kayle, Anivia, Jayce, all have opportunities for some clutch shit. The only mids that I think are super boring to watch are like, Ryze, Annie and Karthus. There are also assassins like Talon, Pantheon, Fizz, Diana, Leblanc, Akali and Khazix now who are basically relegated to 2nd or 3rd tier because Zed and Kassadin exist. I think a lot of people would be perfectly okay with some small Zed nerfs. | ||
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