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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
September 07 2013 17:00 GMT
#921
On September 08 2013 01:50 kongoline wrote:
i still wait for hydra khazix to be discovered and called the new OP(no tear is needed now), guess zed needs to be nerfed first for this to happen


Why hydra Kha'zix when you can hydra Aatrox?
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 17:07:02
September 07 2013 17:03 GMT
#922
I haven't played the match up but I wouldn't be suprised at all if Hydra Kha'zix shits all over any build Aatrox.

@Alaric he's still a fine situational pick, but he needs a team that can give him blue buff late, not so much because he needs the mana, but because the CDR is really useful and Jayce the only CDR item Jayce wants to buy is BC. Jayce's seige is still very good, you aren't wrong about that, it's just not broken, he dosen't have a full build by 25 min every game from blowing people up with muramana, so the damage is a lot closer to in line with the items everyone else in the game has.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 07 2013 17:17 GMT
#923
On September 08 2013 02:03 Slusher wrote:
I haven't played the match up but I wouldn't be suprised at all if Hydra Kha'zix shits all over any build Aatrox.

@Alaric he's still a fine situational pick, but he needs a team that can give him blue buff late, not so much because he needs the mana, but because the CDR is really useful and Jayce the only CDR item Jayce wants to buy is BC. Jayce's seige is still very good, you aren't wrong about that, it's just not broken, he dosen't have a full build by 25 min every game from blowing people up with muramana, so the damage is a lot closer to in line with the items everyone else in the game has.

Jayce just suffers from the difficulty in balancing ad casters. Because he isn't a tank picking him means your team is ad heavy, or tank light. Also poke comps are not fotm. Mostly though, its that his concept is a lesson in being "balanced on the blade of a knife".
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
September 07 2013 17:19 GMT
#924
As it is now manamune is to weak and muramana is too strong. As it is now champions that would but it (Corki, Ez, Lucian(?)) lose to much as its such a weak item compared to TF, IE and BT.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 17:27:09
September 07 2013 17:21 GMT
#925
I mean, that was the original design intention of tear was it not?

seems like it's in a good place to me.

also, the community reaction to the Garen VU hilarious.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 17:29:16
September 07 2013 17:28 GMT
#926
Yeah I mean it's not like Olaf who was strong and was made straight-up super hard to use (he's still situationally strong, and ironically enough when Riot claims that he's bad at low levels and good at high, I'd say he's way easier to play at low level because people don't kite as much), it seemed to me like Jayce (and Kha'Zix) simply went from overtly broken that admits no concurrence to very strong, but not the bestest, so I was surprised he was immediatly shafted (maybe tons of scrims were played and he was deemed too weak, but since us general public don't have access to this information... ).

Also wtf EU times for the World's Finals' games. x_x Since I don't intend to destroy the sleep schedule I've set back on track recently, I guess I'll be eating VoDs, unless I manage to catch the Azubu/Youtube stream before the end when I get up so I can rewind it.

Edit: which community reaction? From what I've seen most of it is "Rugged Garen too clean ".
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 07 2013 17:37 GMT
#927
everything from

-why even bother with a champion nobody cares about

-such and such skin looks better currently (rugged actually does )

-You took out his punch I'll never play him again

basically nobody is happy, I get annoyed as much as the next guy when people on Reddit post the 'Riot is trying to fix server stability as hard as they can guys so lets just be happy the game is free' but in this case I think the detractors need to check their privilege.
Carrilord has arrived.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 17:45:37
September 07 2013 17:44 GMT
#928
On September 08 2013 02:00 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 01:50 kongoline wrote:
i still wait for hydra khazix to be discovered and called the new OP(no tear is needed now), guess zed needs to be nerfed first for this to happen


Why hydra Kha'zix when you can hydra Aatrox?

Hydra Aatrox is so much worse in my opinion ;s Then again I always build him with Rageblade so

If you're feeling sad just play Fiora. The new ult changes are incredible. "Oh Fizz trying to be funny with his playful trickster? Well screw that ult lands anyway"

And our Blitzcrank with 34 assists, I think that's the most I've seen
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IceteaGuy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany95 Posts
September 07 2013 18:02 GMT
#929
On September 08 2013 01:45 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 01:40 IceteaGuy wrote:
The lag on EU-West is back. Yay.

was it ever gone lol?


I never had lag in the first place. So I'm experiencing it for the first time. Thought it was gone for good for everyone.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 07 2013 18:03 GMT
#930
On September 08 2013 02:44 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 02:00 Zdrastochye wrote:
On September 08 2013 01:50 kongoline wrote:
i still wait for hydra khazix to be discovered and called the new OP(no tear is needed now), guess zed needs to be nerfed first for this to happen


Why hydra Kha'zix when you can hydra Aatrox?

Hydra Aatrox is so much worse in my opinion ;s Then again I always build him with Rageblade so

If you're feeling sad just play Fiora. The new ult changes are incredible. "Oh Fizz trying to be funny with his playful trickster? Well screw that ult lands anyway"

And our Blitzcrank with 34 assists, I think that's the most I've seen

Okay I don't play aatrox so I'm legit curious, why rageblade exactly?
Glorious SEA doto
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 07 2013 18:08 GMT
#931
What is everyone building on Ez these days?

BLue build or oldschool Trinity -> AD stuff?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#932
On September 08 2013 03:08 iCanada wrote:
What is everyone building on Ez these days?

BLue build or oldschool Trinity -> AD stuff?

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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
September 07 2013 18:14 GMT
#933
On September 08 2013 02:37 Slusher wrote:
everything from

-why even bother with a champion nobody cares about

-such and such skin looks better currently (rugged actually does )

-You took out his punch I'll never play him again

basically nobody is happy, I get annoyed as much as the next guy when people on Reddit post the 'Riot is trying to fix server stability as hard as they can guys so lets just be happy the game is free' but in this case I think the detractors need to check their privilege.


People in this game get attached to the dumbest things. I remember the people crying because you couldn't "YOURSKILLSAREINFERIORYOURSKILLSAREINFERIORYOURSKILLSAREINFERIORYOURSKILLSAREINFERIORYOURSKILLSAREINFERIORYOURSKILLSAREINFERIORYOURSKILLSAREINFERIORYOURSKILLSAREINFERIORYOURSKILLSAREINFERIORYOURSKILLSAREINFERIORYOURSKILLSAREINFERIOR" anymore.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 07 2013 18:19 GMT
#934
Pretty much every art rework I've thought was a great change, and I've watched this forum disagree with all of them.

I even saw people in here say things like the Master Yi and Sivir model reworks are worse than the originals. Statements like that are so amazing that it's hard to even reply to them.

People will find a reason to be upset with anything.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 07 2013 18:20 GMT
#935
On September 08 2013 03:03 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 02:44 Shikyo wrote:
On September 08 2013 02:00 Zdrastochye wrote:
On September 08 2013 01:50 kongoline wrote:
i still wait for hydra khazix to be discovered and called the new OP(no tear is needed now), guess zed needs to be nerfed first for this to happen


Why hydra Kha'zix when you can hydra Aatrox?

Hydra Aatrox is so much worse in my opinion ;s Then again I always build him with Rageblade so

If you're feeling sad just play Fiora. The new ult changes are incredible. "Oh Fizz trying to be funny with his playful trickster? Well screw that ult lands anyway"

And our Blitzcrank with 34 assists, I think that's the most I've seen

Okay I don't play aatrox so I'm legit curious, why rageblade exactly?


once he gets below the health threshold to trigger rageblade passive, he can keep it up forever (it stays until you're out of combat, even if you heal)
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 18:23:51
September 07 2013 18:21 GMT
#936
On September 08 2013 03:19 Ketara wrote:
Pretty much every art rework I've thought was a great change, and I've watched this forum disagree with all of them.

I even saw people in here say things like the Master Yi and Sivir model reworks are worse than the originals. Statements like that are so amazing that it's hard to even reply to them.

People will find a reason to be upset with anything.


Like most complaints on the internet, I think you're referring to a vocal minority.

Because every visual rework has looked stonking great and I really don't think that can be even refuted as an opinion. Even if you liked the look of Champion X before, there's no way it can be said that they don't look far more polished and smooth after the fact.

Maybe I'm crazy though.

Edit: I also feel like the majority of disagreeing with Riot that goes on on TL in particular is about gameplay reworks, for/about which there's far more to contest/complain.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 07 2013 18:22 GMT
#937
On September 08 2013 03:08 iCanada wrote:
What is everyone building on Ez these days?

BLue build or oldschool Trinity -> AD stuff?

Tri into AD stuff, the sheen and phage changes were really big for triforce champs.
Glorious SEA doto
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 07 2013 18:25 GMT
#938
On September 08 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 03:19 Ketara wrote:
Pretty much every art rework I've thought was a great change, and I've watched this forum disagree with all of them.

I even saw people in here say things like the Master Yi and Sivir model reworks are worse than the originals. Statements like that are so amazing that it's hard to even reply to them.

People will find a reason to be upset with anything.


Like most complaints on the internet, I think you're referring to a vocal minority.

Because every visual rework has looked stonking great and I really don't think that can be even refuted as an opinion. Even if you liked the look of Champion X before, there's no way it can be said that they don't look far more polished and smooth after the fact.

Maybe I'm crazy though.

Edit: I also feel like the majority of disagreeing with Riot that goes on on TL in particular is about gameplay reworks, for/about which there's far more to contest/complain.


Yes we do complain about gameplay reworks more.

There's a lot of jumping to conclusions that goes on there too, though.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 07 2013 18:32 GMT
#939
My only annoyance with the VUs done so far is most of them have changed my favorite skin from one to another lol,
not anything to actually get mad about, although in cases of a champion I play it could potentially cost me money (Muscateer TF is now his worst looking skin to me) but obviously overall it's for the good.

Ketara said: There's a lot of jumping to conclusions that goes on there too


Well I mean if you can't speculate there isn't much to talk about after the first few days of a patch, that said I actually disagree, I think the people who's posts I put a lot of stock into have been pretty accurate with these types of predictions.
Carrilord has arrived.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 07 2013 18:33 GMT
#940
On September 08 2013 03:19 Ketara wrote:
Pretty much every art rework I've thought was a great change, and I've watched this forum disagree with all of them.

I even saw people in here say things like the Master Yi and Sivir model reworks are worse than the originals. Statements like that are so amazing that it's hard to even reply to them.

People will find a reason to be upset with anything.


I legitimately think the new Sivir preview looks terrible for what Sivir is supposed to be(like, some crazy Xena style amazon warrior woman). I'm sure they could've touched up the visuals without making her look like a teenager that's never had to fight in her life, who's default facial expression is somewhat cheerful with some pouty lips.
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