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Leonnoel
Profile Joined March 2012
France17 Posts
September 14 2013 18:14 GMT
#2881
The quality in these videos is pretty nice
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 18:23:02
September 14 2013 18:22 GMT
#2882
On September 15 2013 03:03 SidianTheBard wrote:
I don't get all the just camp morde statements. Sure it works, but any decent morde buys a ward to begin with and can easily ward one side of the river and almost hug that side and for the most part be safe. Especially since all these assassins you guys are taking about have no hard CC (minus ahri charm) which means it's going to be especially difficult to get a gank off.

Lol? This is clearly not the case seeing as how morde is simply not a good champion right now. I still remember the good old days of watching scarra go 0-4 on morde in 10 minutes.

Most junglers have a CC. Combine that with double buffs and an overextended morde can be solo'd by the jungler, and if nothing else, put far behind. There are no good starting items for morde that allow him to go wards + health pots. And it doesn't matter if morde hugs a side when he's pushing as a melee champion against champions with gap closers.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 18:25:35
September 14 2013 18:24 GMT
#2883
On September 15 2013 03:11 Slusher wrote:
Shame on me I had forgotten how epic the birth of "xPeke'd" was until the hype videos today.

Heh, it's funny how there's so many coined terms now for famous players. xPeke'd, Madlife hooks, Insec'd, doublelift mechanics. Too bad I don't think anyone will be replicating faker's moment anytime soon.
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
September 14 2013 18:26 GMT
#2884
Lovely EU client and server yay! So Aatrox, where do I start... Riot is always about, let there be counterplay, so why make a character with 3 skills designed to make him have no counterplay?

I bet he'll be nerfed three times in a row, and he'll be picked/banned in every single game at Worlds.

Heck, he's so OP that he is going to get nerfed 3 patches in a row I think.
Meh
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 14 2013 18:31 GMT
#2885
I wanted to play a LoL game.
Then I remembered why I stopped playing.

Those servers are just a joke.
The legend of Darien lives on
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 14 2013 18:31 GMT
#2886
Holy moly so much hype

Sad that TPA didn't get any mentions. I know they're gone but they did, y'know, win the S2 championships.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 14 2013 18:32 GMT
#2887
On September 15 2013 03:31 mr_tolkien wrote:
I wanted to play a LoL game.
Then I remembered why I stopped playing.

Those servers are just a joke.

We should make a na colony.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 14 2013 18:34 GMT
#2888
EUW is supposed to be back up around 7:15PM GMT, which is 45 minutes from now.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
September 14 2013 18:34 GMT
#2889
On September 15 2013 03:26 Yttrasil wrote:
Lovely EU client and server yay! So Aatrox, where do I start... Riot is always about, let there be counterplay, so why make a character with 3 skills designed to make him have no counterplay?

I bet he'll be nerfed three times in a row, and he'll be picked/banned in every single game at Worlds.

Heck, he's so OP that he is going to get nerfed 3 patches in a row I think.


He is to easy cc'ed by competent teams to go wild at worlds.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
brokenwatch
Profile Joined July 2011
Azerbaijan99 Posts
September 14 2013 18:35 GMT
#2890
I love it when EUW servers go down.Thank you riot.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 14 2013 18:38 GMT
#2891
On September 15 2013 03:35 brokenwatch wrote:
I love it when EUW servers go down.Thank you riot.

When BrokenWatch is posting, you know some serious shit is going down.
The legend of Darien lives on
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
September 14 2013 18:43 GMT
#2892
Quick question: what does one normally want as a first item on Graves assuming everything is going well? I've been building BT but not sure if Blade of the Ruined King would be better. I want to get better with this champion, he's ridiculous amounts of fun to play.

Also I want Pool Party Graves. Sploosh, sploosh, sploosh.
Call me Sunday
brokenwatch
Profile Joined July 2011
Azerbaijan99 Posts
September 14 2013 18:44 GMT
#2893
you would normally want dorans blade first
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11937 Posts
September 14 2013 18:46 GMT
#2894
On September 15 2013 03:43 InfSunday wrote:
Quick question: what does one normally want as a first item on Graves assuming everything is going well? I've been building BT but not sure if Blade of the Ruined King would be better. I want to get better with this champion, he's ridiculous amounts of fun to play.

Also I want Pool Party Graves. Sploosh, sploosh, sploosh.


I am pretty sure you want BT instead of Bork. Basic rule of thumb: If you got nice AD ratios on your spells, you want a BT.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 14 2013 18:47 GMT
#2895
On September 15 2013 03:43 InfSunday wrote:
Quick question: what does one normally want as a first item on Graves assuming everything is going well? I've been building BT but not sure if Blade of the Ruined King would be better. I want to get better with this champion, he's ridiculous amounts of fun to play.

Also I want Pool Party Graves. Sploosh, sploosh, sploosh.

Botrk over BT is terrible. Graves scales heavily off his skills which are based off AD.
brokenwatch
Profile Joined July 2011
Azerbaijan99 Posts
September 14 2013 18:51 GMT
#2896
botrk is pretty good but probably not as a first item.Maybe vamp scepter into IE into botrk LW or something.
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 18:52:06
September 14 2013 18:51 GMT
#2897
Can clamping begin at the beginning of division I?

I was promoted to division 1, then lost 2 games at 0 LP, then won a game and got +4 LP. Not sure if it's clamping or if the win was reduced by the previous 2 losses (since I was 0 LP for the losses).
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
September 14 2013 18:53 GMT
#2898
On September 15 2013 03:51 BlasiuS wrote:
Can clamping begin at the beginning of division I?

I was promoted to division 1, then lost 2 games at 0 LP, then won a game and got +4 LP. Not sure if it's clamping or if the win was reduced by the previous 2 losses (since I was 0 LP for the losses).

Yes it can/does start right away.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11937 Posts
September 14 2013 18:58 GMT
#2899
For example, ever since i have been in plat 1 i have been winning ~4-7 and losing 3-6. So i am slowly, slowly rising in rating, but it is rather annoying.
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
September 14 2013 19:04 GMT
#2900
On September 15 2013 03:46 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 03:43 InfSunday wrote:
Quick question: what does one normally want as a first item on Graves assuming everything is going well? I've been building BT but not sure if Blade of the Ruined King would be better. I want to get better with this champion, he's ridiculous amounts of fun to play.

Also I want Pool Party Graves. Sploosh, sploosh, sploosh.


I am pretty sure you want BT instead of Bork. Basic rule of thumb: If you got nice AD ratios on your spells, you want a BT.


That was my logic in rushing BT, but I've seen a lot of Graves build Botrk first. Didn't know if that was me building improperly or a side-effect of my being in silver league.

... I just want gold so bad.
Call me Sunday
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