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On August 25 2013 09:46 IMoperator wrote:
I bet poutine would taste really good and all but it does not look appetizing in the slightest.
It is absolutely delicious. Fries+Cheese+Gravy=Win.
Pity that there isn't any good Poutine place in DC. Also, this is probably grossly offtopic. >_<
But also, I don't generally follow the EU LCS, but is Aatrox that big a FotM in Europe? Been seeing him in FB/FP status all regionals. Don't see him that often in NA (thank Teamu, I hate that champ).
EDIT: Also, I know several friends who also think that ADCs are too OP atm.
I just laugh at them.
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All I read was qq about AD carries because they do exactly what the definition of a carry is supposed to do and he's for some reason mad about that.
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Well really it goes back to the same old question of the practicality of a 1st position melee hero or caster hero, but how questionable those are tend to fall back toward fundamental mechanics of the game more than Riot doing anything with individual balance patches like he claims.
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That post is horribly out of date anyway. Who says ADC anymore?
There needs to be a role that is good at pushing down towers from range and that is effective vs full tank characters. I don't think they are too strong at that. I actually think the marksman (  ) balance at the moment is pretty good.
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On August 25 2013 11:56 JazzVortical wrote:That post is horribly out of date anyway. Who says ADC anymore? There needs to be a role that is good at pushing down towers from range and that is effective vs full tank characters. I don't think they are too strong at that. I actually think the marksman ( ) balance at the moment is pretty good.
Seriously. Marksman or B.
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On August 25 2013 11:48 TheYango wrote:
Well really it goes back to the same old question of the practicality of a 1st position melee hero or caster hero, but how questionable those are tend to fall back toward fundamental mechanics of the game more than Riot doing anything with individual balance patches like he claims.
I think that its not about #1st position vs XX. It is that ADC earlygame is not bad. But, also, depending on hero, (mostly only cait is and ez cant do this) you can build BOtRK and be fine midgame.
Like I said, he is only right at 2 points of the game, early and mid. Plus, its is probably, a justified, QQ about the elimination of safe bruiser options to face a 2v1.
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thats more of a problem with the way exp and jungle works than adc.
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On August 25 2013 12:19 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 11:48 TheYango wrote:
Well really it goes back to the same old question of the practicality of a 1st position melee hero or caster hero, but how questionable those are tend to fall back toward fundamental mechanics of the game more than Riot doing anything with individual balance patches like he claims. I think that its not about #1st position vs XX. It is that ADC earlygame is not bad. But, also, depending on hero, (mostly only cait is and ez cant do this) you can build BOtRK and be fine midgame. Like I said, he is only right at 2 points of the game, early and mid. Plus, its is probably, a justified, QQ about the elimination of safe bruiser options to face a 2v1.
It is because the only real discussion that's relevant with regard to "role balance" is really who steals the show, which is directly related to who gets the farm and who is best with the farm.
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On August 25 2013 12:25 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 12:19 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2013 11:48 TheYango wrote:
Well really it goes back to the same old question of the practicality of a 1st position melee hero or caster hero, but how questionable those are tend to fall back toward fundamental mechanics of the game more than Riot doing anything with individual balance patches like he claims. I think that its not about #1st position vs XX. It is that ADC earlygame is not bad. But, also, depending on hero, (mostly only cait is and ez cant do this) you can build BOtRK and be fine midgame. Like I said, he is only right at 2 points of the game, early and mid. Plus, its is probably, a justified, QQ about the elimination of safe bruiser options to face a 2v1. It is because the only real discussion that's relevant with regard to "role balance" is really who steals the show, which is directly related to who gets the farm and who is best with the farm.
You are ignoring the part that makes him QQ: Who is best at farming. Which, again, is the legitimate problem.
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On August 25 2013 12:45 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 12:25 TheYango wrote:On August 25 2013 12:19 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2013 11:48 TheYango wrote:
Well really it goes back to the same old question of the practicality of a 1st position melee hero or caster hero, but how questionable those are tend to fall back toward fundamental mechanics of the game more than Riot doing anything with individual balance patches like he claims. I think that its not about #1st position vs XX. It is that ADC earlygame is not bad. But, also, depending on hero, (mostly only cait is and ez cant do this) you can build BOtRK and be fine midgame. Like I said, he is only right at 2 points of the game, early and mid. Plus, its is probably, a justified, QQ about the elimination of safe bruiser options to face a 2v1. It is because the only real discussion that's relevant with regard to "role balance" is really who steals the show, which is directly related to who gets the farm and who is best with the farm. You are ignoring the part that makes him QQ: Who is best at farming. Which, again, is the legitimate problem.
? The role that's best at farming is by far the mid hero.
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On August 25 2013 12:25 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 12:19 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2013 11:48 TheYango wrote:
Well really it goes back to the same old question of the practicality of a 1st position melee hero or caster hero, but how questionable those are tend to fall back toward fundamental mechanics of the game more than Riot doing anything with individual balance patches like he claims. I think that its not about #1st position vs XX. It is that ADC earlygame is not bad. But, also, depending on hero, (mostly only cait is and ez cant do this) you can build BOtRK and be fine midgame. Like I said, he is only right at 2 points of the game, early and mid. Plus, its is probably, a justified, QQ about the elimination of safe bruiser options to face a 2v1. It is because the only real discussion that's relevant with regard to "role balance" is really who steals the show, which is directly related to who gets the farm and who is best with the farm.
I was looking into dota recently after TI3, trying to figure out how the game worked and everything. I hit up their GD, only to find that TheYango posts just as, maybe even more often over there than he does here. And it is exactly the same thing, he knows the game better than everyone else and is explaining shit all the time.
How the heck are you able to know both games so well and stay up to date in both? I am impressed. I am almost scared to check out the old HoN threads to see if you were batmaning the shit out of those as well.
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hes some chinese know it all genius and is also icefrog
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He's actually the fabled Aeon64 - creator of the original Aeon of Strife.
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I played like 3 games of HoN ever, one of which was a 5v2 which we lost, lol.
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lack of dynamic asymmetry in power curves and farming capabilities combined with an absolute vigilance against any significant metagame shifts
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Yango is one of the members of the Illuminati, right next to IceFrog, Morgan Freeman, and Hunter Ferrel
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I see someone playing Yi on Req's account. Chosen Yi. Seems like Req since he fed and his team carried him. If you're seeing this, you can come back after your month ban.
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can we get a dedicated req thread or something
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On August 25 2013 12:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 12:45 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2013 12:25 TheYango wrote:On August 25 2013 12:19 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2013 11:48 TheYango wrote:
Well really it goes back to the same old question of the practicality of a 1st position melee hero or caster hero, but how questionable those are tend to fall back toward fundamental mechanics of the game more than Riot doing anything with individual balance patches like he claims. I think that its not about #1st position vs XX. It is that ADC earlygame is not bad. But, also, depending on hero, (mostly only cait is and ez cant do this) you can build BOtRK and be fine midgame. Like I said, he is only right at 2 points of the game, early and mid. Plus, its is probably, a justified, QQ about the elimination of safe bruiser options to face a 2v1. It is because the only real discussion that's relevant with regard to "role balance" is really who steals the show, which is directly related to who gets the farm and who is best with the farm. You are ignoring the part that makes him QQ: Who is best at farming. Which, again, is the legitimate problem. ? The role that's best at farming is by far the mid hero.
Meh, only because they are in mid. I love that AD Carries are good, because IMO Sustained damage is more skillful in nature than burst damage. The problem for me is that, for the pro players (my games are almost unaffected) that melle characters either have to be Rumble/Renekton (items are largely irrelevant), Zed (Farming is EZ PZ), or Shen/Kassadin (lategame is lame even if kinda shutdown). Melles, vs. a 2v1 should be able to farm at Pre-Nerf-Olaf/Current Karthus levels, without the lategame of those characters, but with a strong midgame.
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On August 25 2013 13:57 Eiii wrote:
can we get a dedicated req thread or something
Yeah, maybe we should get on that...
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