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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 05:40:31
August 25 2013 05:23 GMT
#961
shameless plug, but if you guys are interested. i'm casting some of the ihs.

twitch.tv/wei2coolforu
liftlift > tsm
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
August 25 2013 05:40 GMT
#962
if yoru going to do that you might as well link
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 25 2013 06:01 GMT
#963
Neo, dat darius. Whyyyy D:
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
August 25 2013 06:23 GMT
#964
Remember how towards Season 2 Worlds NA started slacking off and some people started to get burnt out? I have a nervous feeling that NA peaked too early this year (AllStars and start of summer) and other regions like EU are training much harder. Worlds could look really ugly. Anyone else feel this way?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 25 2013 06:31 GMT
#965
On August 25 2013 15:23 caelym wrote:
Remember how towards Season 2 Worlds NA started slacking off and some people started to get burnt out? I have a nervous feeling that NA peaked too early this year (AllStars and start of summer) and other regions like EU are training much harder. Worlds could look really ugly. Anyone else feel this way?


Well C9 and Vulcan didn't slack during superweek when they were playing for NOTHING. No one else is really worthwhile to look at unless they do something intriguing between now and worlds, so IDK what you are talking about.
Freeeeeeedom
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 06:48:38
August 25 2013 06:42 GMT
#966
On August 25 2013 15:31 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 15:23 caelym wrote:
Remember how towards Season 2 Worlds NA started slacking off and some people started to get burnt out? I have a nervous feeling that NA peaked too early this year (AllStars and start of summer) and other regions like EU are training much harder. Worlds could look really ugly. Anyone else feel this way?


Well C9 and Vulcan didn't slack during superweek when they were playing for NOTHING. No one else is really worthwhile to look at unless they do something intriguing between now and worlds, so IDK what you are talking about.

C9 and Vulcun are good, but they don't seem to get much better, whereas I've been impressed with EU's improvement during superweek and playoffs. Maybe I'm just seeing things that aren't there. It's also late, so I'm going off more gut feeling than analytical thinking.

edit: maybe it's because C9 (and Vulcun) don't have any teams that challenge and push them to up their game, whereas in EU, the records were ridiculously close and everyone was trying their hardest.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 09:58:49
August 25 2013 07:14 GMT
#967
On August 25 2013 15:42 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 15:31 cLutZ wrote:
On August 25 2013 15:23 caelym wrote:
Remember how towards Season 2 Worlds NA started slacking off and some people started to get burnt out? I have a nervous feeling that NA peaked too early this year (AllStars and start of summer) and other regions like EU are training much harder. Worlds could look really ugly. Anyone else feel this way?


Well C9 and Vulcan didn't slack during superweek when they were playing for NOTHING. No one else is really worthwhile to look at unless they do something intriguing between now and worlds, so IDK what you are talking about.

C9 and Vulcun are good, but they don't seem to get much better, whereas I've been impressed with EU's improvement during superweek and playoffs. Maybe I'm just seeing things that aren't there. It's also late, so I'm going off more gut feeling than analytical thinking.

edit: maybe it's because C9 (and Vulcun) don't have any teams that challenge and push them to up their game, whereas in EU, the records were ridiculously close and everyone was trying their hardest.

It has to do with their competition. Some teams did better or worse than others, LD and MYM. Meanwhile, the body of the competition(2-7 for EU), is super close and competitive.

Meanwhile in NA, C9 was worlds ahead, Coast collapsed, Velocity sadly just couldn't compete. Out of Vulcun and the Big 4, 2-6, only Vulcun were able to make big progress, and it shows. While not reaching the success of C9, they ere still able to work out a 6 game lead over the pack.

EU just has better parity due to the relative skill level between the teams. This causes more and faster progression. I'd worry about the lack of parity in Korea, except it has the built in failsafe of the sister teams. Does KT Arrows suck? Yeah, but as long as KT is willing to support them they will have a constant sparring partner with one of the elite teams in the region and they will get better.

I think it's unfair to compare EU to NA impressions when EU is finishing their regional today when NA hasn't even started theirs. Fewer teams have been around as long as NA's big 4, teams forged in BoX formats and not 1 offs. I really feel like the LCS format hinders them to some extent. I'm really looking forward to NA regionals to see if the big 4 behave differently in light of that, to what extent, or if my hypothesis is unfounded.

I know I went over a bit there and I feel if I continued I'd get into Alaric territory. Quick, somebody give me something to make puns about. =]
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 07:17:18
August 25 2013 07:16 GMT
#968
So, nearly enough IP for lucian, is he worth buying/learning? He seems more technical than most ADC's, more along the lines of ez than cait, etc, which is what I'm looking for. Plz correct me if I'm wrong >.>
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 25 2013 07:17 GMT
#969
On August 25 2013 16:16 Audemed wrote:
So, nearly enough IP for lucian, is he worth buying/learning? He seems more technical than most ADC's, more along the lines of ez than cait, etc, which is what I'm looking for. Plz correct me if I'm wrong >.>

From what I've seen of him, I feel like Lucian is what Quinn should have been.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 25 2013 07:28 GMT
#970
Quinn much more bursty and duely. Lucian feels much more burst caster. I'm sure genja would love playing lucian, since you dont need to build AS.
liftlift > tsm
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 25 2013 07:50 GMT
#971
I think vulcan improved immensely. They aren't losing to teams they shouldn't anymore and Zuna hasn't thrown recently.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 08:04:41
August 25 2013 08:03 GMT
#972
I feel like Lucian has a really good early-mid game but both his passive and his ult are crap lategame, where IMO he should have at least one of them being good. (his ult fully channeled barely does enough damage to do more than 70% of someones health)

I also feel like Quinn is a weird but overall strong carry, y ppl not play her moar.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
August 25 2013 08:58 GMT
#973
@ Gahlo: parity not parody. Parody is something else entirely.

Really though, I'd wait for the NA regionals to start before we make judgement calls.

@ Dusty: her range gimps her, basically. She's rather weird in that she's a better solo laner (mid lane into roam) than a bot laner.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
August 25 2013 09:42 GMT
#974
on a support page do you guys get scaling mr or flat?
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 09:57:09
August 25 2013 09:56 GMT
#975
On August 25 2013 18:42 IMoperator wrote:
on a support page do you guys get scaling mr or flat?

Either way works, though flat is always more reliable. Esp. better when you're up against, say, a Leona.

I still use scaling mr instead of flat for all my pages though.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 25 2013 09:57 GMT
#976
On August 25 2013 17:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
@ Gahlo: parity not parody. Parody is something else entirely.

Really though, I'd wait for the NA regionals to start before we make judgement calls.

@ Dusty: her range gimps her, basically. She's rather weird in that she's a better solo laner (mid lane into roam) than a bot laner.

Staying up all night all week 2 hard, gg.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
August 25 2013 10:34 GMT
#977
On August 25 2013 18:42 IMoperator wrote:
on a support page do you guys get scaling mr or flat?


This is a nice write up about the different Runes/Masteries for support:

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/guest-posters/other/25529-complete-support-rune-masteries-breakdown-and-team
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
August 25 2013 11:49 GMT
#978
I'm pretty sure I read something about those tickets being sold for finals were not sold to scalpers, but the venue has to sell a certain percentage of tickets to "scalper-esque" companies (as they have some sort of agreement).
@miicah88
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 13:07:46
August 25 2013 12:43 GMT
#979
On August 25 2013 19:34 ExoFun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 18:42 IMoperator wrote:
on a support page do you guys get scaling mr or flat?


This is a nice write up about the different Runes/Masteries for support:

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/guest-posters/other/25529-complete-support-rune-masteries-breakdown-and-team


what pauper wrote that article, magic pen reds on Zyra? Split pen baby get that pleeb shit outta here.

oh he has it later, his "Zyra test" page is fine but if you have his "Post apoc" page, it's better for Lulu/Zyra, once you have split pen I'd recommend deleting the "Zyra test" page for supports, early game damage too important for supporting.

also I agree with Dusty, it would be nice if Double tap scaled up to 100% at 18, he has no other steroid.
Carrilord has arrived.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 25 2013 15:18 GMT
#980
On August 25 2013 18:42 IMoperator wrote:
on a support page do you guys get scaling mr or flat?

I sit on the fence and use 3 flat and 6 scaling
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