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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 15:24:09
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#981
I think scaling runes are dumb on supports because supports get levels the slowest on the team.

Scaling MR break even at I think level 9? Even if you do well you'll be level 9 when the enemy team is level 11.

I wouldn't use scaling MR unless the enemy lane is nearly 100% physical damage like Janna Cait or Janna Graves.

Also, what's the skill order for support Zyra? I am playing her for funsies and haven't done it in months.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
August 25 2013 15:36 GMT
#982
Wow I just realized that because of EU's poor performance at the allstar the #1 team from EU isn't even directly sent to quarter finals at worlds while NA, garena, china and KR are. This makes so few sense considering the """"allstar"""" team that was sent and the fact that real teams aren't even playing at this special event. Oh well I'm sure we'll see who deserved the slots at worlds

Sauce: http://lol.gamepedia.com/Season_3_World_Championship
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 25 2013 15:50 GMT
#983
On August 26 2013 00:36 RouaF wrote:
Wow I just realized that because of EU's poor performance at the allstar the #1 team from EU isn't even directly sent to quarter finals at worlds while NA, garena, china and KR are. This makes so few sense considering the """"allstar"""" team that was sent and the fact that real teams aren't even playing at this special event. Oh well I'm sure we'll see who deserved the slots at worlds

Sauce: http://lol.gamepedia.com/Season_3_World_Championship

It's better than drawing randomly like last season.

The real answer to this is to expand/shrink the number of regions so it's a power of 2.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
August 25 2013 16:03 GMT
#984
Or actually made a proper tournament format of 16 teams (one extra from China and Taiwan).
Commentator
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
August 25 2013 16:04 GMT
#985
Also how the hell is Froggen streaming again so quickly? Is the EG LoL house in Cologne?
Commentator
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 25 2013 16:05 GMT
#986
yeah it is
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 25 2013 16:13 GMT
#987
On August 26 2013 01:03 GTR wrote:
Or actually made a proper tournament format of 16 teams (one extra from China and Taiwan).

I dunno, it's kind of nice to reward the team that actually came in first in their region.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 25 2013 16:22 GMT
#988
Man I'm trying to read that tournament bracket and figure it out and I don't understand it at all.

Can somebody give a better explanation of how the brackets work?

I thought since KR won the all stars they were going to have more spots than NA and EU did, but I guess we all get 3?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
August 25 2013 16:24 GMT
#989
On August 26 2013 00:23 Ketara wrote:
I think scaling runes are dumb on supports because supports get levels the slowest on the team.

Scaling MR break even at I think level 9? Even if you do well you'll be level 9 when the enemy team is level 11.

I wouldn't use scaling MR unless the enemy lane is nearly 100% physical damage like Janna Cait or Janna Graves.

Also, what's the skill order for support Zyra? I am playing her for funsies and haven't done it in months.

In my (silver) opinion, EWQE, max R->E->W->Q. Use Q to get plants into bushes or in trades/all ins when you have 'extra' seeds.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 16:25:46
August 25 2013 16:24 GMT
#990
Korea originally had 2 spots. If NA/EU won All-Stars, they would have 4 spots instead of 3.
Korea #1 (Sword/KT Rolster B, depending on how the final goes), Taiwan #1, China #1 and NA #1 (most likely C9) are seeded into the quarter-finals. The remaining 10 teams are divided into two groups of 5 where the top 2 advance to meet these seeded teams.

I still think this is one of the most retarded tournament formats ever.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 16:26:43
August 25 2013 16:26 GMT
#991
Korea gets an extra spot because they won the All Stars. They were originally going to only have 2.

edit: Shen'd
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 25 2013 16:26 GMT
#992
How do they decide that NA gets 3 spots, EU 3, China/Korea 2, etc?

Also, is South America really so bad they get absolutely nothing?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
August 25 2013 16:29 GMT
#993
I think they based it on the amount of players in that region. Korea had a relatively small playerbase so gets only 2. South America has close to no pro scene. Maybe that'll change now with Pain doing well and Riot being (seemingly) succesful.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 25 2013 16:30 GMT
#994
Probably based on player numbers.Also more fans of tsm/clg/crs/eg etc than of most kr/ch teams.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 25 2013 16:31 GMT
#995
Seems very arbitrary, from an uneducated perspective.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 25 2013 16:33 GMT
#996
On August 26 2013 01:13 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 01:03 GTR wrote:
Or actually made a proper tournament format of 16 teams (one extra from China and Taiwan).

I dunno, it's kind of nice to reward the team that actually came in first in their region.

There are plenty of ways you could reward a 1st place team without a full-on bye.

For example you could do an OSL-style group drawing and give the 1st seeds priority picks.
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Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
August 25 2013 16:33 GMT
#997
On August 26 2013 01:31 Ketara wrote:
Seems very arbitrary, from an uneducated perspective.

As I remember, when Riot announced/started the professional scene Korean LoL was in it's infancy, back then NA and EU were the only relevant regions.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 25 2013 16:36 GMT
#998
Personally, I think it's just Riot playing favorites for the big name NA teams to try and get one of them into Worlds.

It's becoming increasingly obvious that Riot does this over various things--for example changing the relegation format mid-season in a way that protects 1 more of the big name teams and favors teams already in LCS during relegation.
Moderator
Rookie6
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil583 Posts
August 25 2013 16:36 GMT
#999
Hey guys, do you know where I can buy a Rammus and Teemo hat? Is there any official site or something?
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 16:39:41
August 25 2013 16:38 GMT
#1000
On August 26 2013 01:36 TheYango wrote:
Personally, I think it's just Riot playing favorites for the big name NA teams to try and get one of them into Worlds.

It's becoming increasingly obvious that Riot does this over various things--for example changing the relegation format mid-season in a way that protects 1 more of the big name teams and favors teams already in LCS during relegation.

To be fair, the same thing happens in most traditional sports. Take football for example, bigger and better 'regions' (England, Spain, Germany, Italy) get more (sponsor/television) money as well as more spots in the tournament. Ofcourse a lot of it is down to the results as well, but FIFA/UEFA especially are famous for favoring the favourites as much as they can in their tournament system(s)

Personally I hate it (maybe because I am from and support one of the smaller nations in terms of club football), but it makes sense from a business perspective.
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