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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
1) Run Smite 2) Convince your team you are not trolling You can get so many kills in lane (OP suppression) and also do fast barons and dragons. proof: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AO8Cpxm.jpg) (look at the support warwick items, so op + noob heimer feeder) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/x9wOdwa.jpg) (had to carry this nooblord graves) Replays: http://www.gamereplays.org/leagueoflegends/replays.php?game=66&show=details&id=287274#/replay_overview http://www.gamereplays.org/leagueoflegends/replays.php?game=66&show=details&id=287279 | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
On September 02 2013 19:34 wei2coolman wrote: Play riven. She straight up beats nasus in lane. Any vods or replays? I tried riven, got first blood and 3-0.. then he shit on me once his Q was strong enough. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On September 02 2013 20:14 Masq wrote: Any vods or replays? I tried riven, got first blood and 3-0.. then he shit on me once his Q was strong enough. nasus actully beats riven unless u manage to snowball early u cant do much later when he gets armor, i remember megazero getting dumped on by some random nasus on his stream he even said its probably a bad matchup for her | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
On September 02 2013 18:08 Fildun wrote: Guys, help me here, I'm a bit confused. I thought going sightstone as first item on Leona was pretty good, if not the best opener on her. (at least in soloq) But this last game I got flamed by 5 people for not going philostone as first item. Then I tried to explain that sightstone functions as a gp5 as well in the sense that you save money, but they wouldn't listen. If you can afford it yeah, it's not like leona needs the mana regen. Philo stone first on a lot of other supports is still good. Dolans Sheild is a good first back item as well. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 02 2013 20:24 kongoline wrote: nasus actully beats riven unless u manage to snowball early u cant do much later when he gets armor, i remember megazero getting dumped on by some radnom nasus on his stream he even said its probably a bad matchup for her You shouldn't be letting nasus farm up... If you can effectively dumpster him in lane, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to zone him out of a lot of farm. The early lane match up is in your favor, if you can't snow ball that then obviously his utility going to shine through in late game. | ||
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Denmark697 Posts
In general Nasus loves building HP and Armor, so with magic damage you force him to build sub-optimally. He also struggles with champions that are good at kiting, but those usually have a hard time forcing him out of the lane. | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On September 02 2013 19:47 Jek wrote: Don't listen to them. So few people in yolo queue know how to play support properly. Like the Garen who legit told me to stop "wasting" my gold on wards... The same wards that allowed him and my team to pick off player after player on the other team who figured it was safe to waltz through their completely warded jungle alone trying to cut to top and bot lane farm. And to Fildun, I don't even buy Philo anymore. My support build looks like this: Sightstone (Rush Ruby if I have the gold for it) Boots 1 Ruby Sightstone (If I haven't already finished it before boots) Boots of Mobility Kindlegem Shurelya's Extra wards, pinks and oracles as needed. If I somehow get a few kills and have the gold, I'll build Aegis->Locket... but not usually. Don't worry about what the other players are telling you in YoloQ. Focus on playing well. Nothing shuts your team up faster than being 4/2/18 at the 30 minute mark. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 02 2013 20:36 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Poppy actually bullies Nasus out of the lane so hard its not funny. Its really easy to deal with a physical damage dealer with Poppy, and Nasus lacks the disengage to get away from a comitted Poppy. (Tryndamere and Pantheon gets hurt by her also) In general Nasus loves building HP and Armor, so with magic damage you force him to build sub-optimally. He also struggles with champions that are good at kiting, but those usually have a hard time forcing him out of the lane. Sv so good on nasus now. No longer suboptimal to build Mr first. | ||
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StateAlchemist
France1946 Posts
Nasus can just build spirit visage against magic damage and be fine. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11445 Posts
On September 02 2013 18:08 Fildun wrote: Guys, help me here, I'm a bit confused. I thought going sightstone as first item on Leona was pretty good, if not the best opener on her. (at least in soloq) But this last game I got flamed by 5 people for not going philostone as first item. Then I tried to explain that sightstone functions as a gp5 as well in the sense that you save money, but they wouldn't listen. You are right, they are wrong. Especially on Leona who doesn't give a fuck about mana regen in 95% of the games, and whose fights tend to be allin-y, why the fuck would you build an item with 0 combat stats first? But also on most other supports. Another contenders for a good first item on Leona would be Dorans Shield, but you kinda have to do something with that as it sets you back quite a bit since you have to buy a lot more wards due to your delayed wardstone. | ||
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Denmark697 Posts
Forgot about that. It used to be armor items that gave Nasus the CDR he needed. Anyways magic damage still does better against him due to him wanting armor for your ADC later on. If you go up against a Nasus with someone like Riven, he can build to counter you and your ADC at the same time. And afaik Poppy still almost hard counters Nasus with her insane Ultimate and ability to tank physical damage (free armor + passive). | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On September 02 2013 20:38 Nemireck wrote: Like the Garen who legit told me to stop "wasting" my gold on wards... The same wards that allowed him and my team to pick off player after player on the other team who figured it was safe to waltz through their completely warded jungle alone trying to cut to top and bot lane farm. And to Fildun, I don't even buy Philo anymore. My support build looks like this: Sightstone (Rush Ruby if I have the gold for it) Boots 1 Ruby Sightstone (If I haven't already finished it before boots) Boots of Mobility Kindlegem Shurelya's Extra wards, pinks and oracles as needed. If I somehow get a few kills and have the gold, I'll build Aegis->Locket... but not usually. Don't worry about what the other players are telling you in YoloQ. Focus on playing well. Nothing shuts your team up faster than being 4/2/18 at the 30 minute mark. zero gp10 was the way to go for a while, especially in pro games, but there was a patch with a change and I can't remember exactly why, but pro supports started building philo again. As a first buy, it depends on the situation, and in most cases you'd be good to buy sightstone first, but in the long run most supports end up with both philo and sightstone in some order or other. Leona scales well with health (because she has free resists on her shield), so that's the reasoning why people like sightstone on her first. If you are snowballing or trying to snowball with all-ins though, you'd probably be better off with a doran's shield or two, because the power it will give you when you're jumping in. There's no steadfast rule: think about what you want to accomplish in lane (philo if you can't win without a jungler's help, sightstone if you're relying on a timing all-in like level 6, doran's if you're going ham at every opportunity), and itemize accordingly. Also people are wrong a lot of the time, don't worry about it. In other news, any suggestions for champs I can play with 200-300 ping on the NA server? T_T So far I've got udyr. EDIT: to clarify, this is about buying first/second back. Don't start doran's shield, start rejuv bead or full all wards. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On September 02 2013 21:49 Vanka wrote: zero gp10 was the way to go for a while, especially in pro games, but there was a patch with a change and I can't remember exactly why, but pro supports started building philo again. As a first buy, it depends on the situation, and in most cases you'd be good to buy sightstone first, but in the long run most supports end up with both philo and sightstone in some order or other. Leona scales well with health (because she has free resists on her shield), so that's the reasoning why people like sightstone on her first. If you are snowballing or trying to snowball with all-ins though, you'd probably be better off with a doran's shield or two, because the power it will give you when you're jumping in. There's no steadfast rule: think about what you want to accomplish in lane (philo if you can't win without a jungler's help, sightstone if you're relying on a timing all-in like level 6, doran's if you're going ham at every opportunity), and itemize accordingly. Also people are wrong a lot of the time, don't worry about it. In other news, any suggestions for champs I can play with 200-300 ping on the NA server? T_T So far I've got udyr. EDIT: to clarify, this is about buying first/second back. Don't start doran's shield, start rejuv bead or full all wards. sona works for me | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
TL is kinda getting downhill those days. PS : As an avid Riven player, I can ensure you a good Nasus shits on you day and night. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On September 02 2013 21:49 Vanka wrote: In other news, any suggestions for champs I can play with 200-300 ping on the NA server? T_T So far I've got udyr. Gangplank, Singed and Garen? | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On September 02 2013 21:49 Vanka wrote: zero gp10 was the way to go for a while, especially in pro games, but there was a patch with a change and I can't remember exactly why, but pro supports started building philo again. As a first buy, it depends on the situation, and in most cases you'd be good to buy sightstone first, but in the long run most supports end up with both philo and sightstone in some order or other. Leona scales well with health (because she has free resists on her shield), so that's the reasoning why people like sightstone on her first. If you are snowballing or trying to snowball with all-ins though, you'd probably be better off with a doran's shield or two, because the power it will give you when you're jumping in. There's no steadfast rule: think about what you want to accomplish in lane (philo if you can't win without a jungler's help, sightstone if you're relying on a timing all-in like level 6, doran's if you're going ham at every opportunity), and itemize accordingly. Also people are wrong a lot of the time, don't worry about it. In other news, any suggestions for champs I can play with 200-300 ping on the NA server? T_T So far I've got udyr. EDIT: to clarify, this is about buying first/second back. Don't start doran's shield, start rejuv bead or full all wards. Honestly it kinda depends.I have 220 but marksman seems fine.If I actually tried playing it for more than a few games I could get used to it. Most junglers should be pretty doable other than lee.Kart mid maybe? | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
Also, don't forget dorans shields, it's a great buy for supports, well, most of the time, especially vs heavy bully lanes. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On September 02 2013 19:34 wei2coolman wrote: Play riven. She straight up beats nasus in lane. Yeah... No, no she doesn't. Riven HATES fighting against guys who can just stack armor/HP without impacting their usefulness. Unless Nasus lets you dunk him at level 1 and drive him out of lane, I don't see how this is going to work. And considering he can go with armor runes and cloth+5 or doran's shield and be happy, I don't even see how he can get driven out of lane like that. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I've had a bunch of them in my games, all utterly terrible in terms of itemisation and playstyle so far, so I'm assuming he's getting popular and people just started picking him up, but he's not been seen competitively and from the posts I've read here people think he's strong but even higher up he isn't picked too much. Yeah, when there's either Lee or Zac top, there's no reason for them to pick Wukong but they do it... with TP. They're def' beginners. :/ | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On September 02 2013 21:49 Vanka wrote: In other news, any suggestions for champs I can play with 200-300 ping on the NA server? T_T So far I've got udyr.. Singed? Nasus? | ||
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