[Patch 3.10a: Worlds Balance] General Discussion - Page 141

On September 02 2013 13:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:


bly! And Two_Down. Caller (kinda). You know ppl

On September 02 2013 13:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:


bly! And Two_Down. Caller (kinda). You know ppl

On September 02 2013 13:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:


bly! And Two_Down. Caller (kinda). You know ppl

On September 02 2013 12:39 SagaZ wrote:

Rly? baiting a dota2 vs LoL over trophy handling?

On September 02 2013 09:19 gtrsrs wrote:
so i think that zed probably has too much in his kit
hai showcased pretty well in the TSM series that a champ that can gapclose WHILE disappearing off the map allows for a bit too much room to counterplay. on some champs it's okay (yi, fizz, shaco kinda but not really even) because they have other weaknesses (no other jumps, mana constraints, inability to farm, what have you)

i mean i always thought zed was too strong but i couldn't really nail down the reason. yeah he does a ton of damage but other champs do too. yeah he's resourceless but other champs are too. yeah he can change positions easily but other champs can too. lee sin had all those features at one point. but having an ability that can negate enemy burst (WHILE blowing you up) is too much

i think changing that (and slightly slightly nerfing his damage) would put zed in a good place. i like having super entertaining super high-skill champs and i'd love for all champs to be on zed's level. but if riot is gonna put all champs at a "balanced" level rather than all champs at a max strength level, he needs these changes

On September 02 2013 13:43 ZataN wrote:

Yesterday was playng Ori vs Zed. Zed dived to engage me just outside my tower range. I moved back, I hit him with the ball and then ult and somehow my ult did not hit, even though I coulda sworn he was there.

So his ult makes him disappear off the map? and he timed it perfectly with my ult. WTF. Does he really need a spell that makes him untargetable.

massive wat.

On September 02 2013 13:22 Numy wrote:
So 6am games have some weird shit in them that no one seems to blink at. It's like I've entered a whole another league.

On September 02 2013 13:50 Ryuu314 wrote:
What happened to Two_Down btw

it's always been this way

On September 02 2013 02:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


Hat Lich is a very standard build, and is in fact the build I default to when nothing peculiar is happening in gaeme, and it is also CitizenWayne's preferred Ziggs' build.

Dade went Grail-Hat-Sheen (didn't get to finish LB) and the game ended the time he played Ziggs.



chalice is an optional item

Like, Ziggs has pretty flexible options, but Lich bane is one of the items that boosts his damage the most and it also gives him mana pool and MS, it is far more core than grail. It is not the one item that will make Ziggs insanely scary, but alaric simply suggests that you never got it cause of "poor range" or some stupid shit.

tl;dr alaric doesnt play ziggs and makes stupid post about ziggs, as tends to happen in TLGD

On September 02 2013 15:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Current thought for the day:

Youmuu's is fracking OP on Dominion and, now that I think about it, is actually very cost-efficient on SR too (double the flat pen of Cleaver+amazing active).

Hmm, going to have to test it out.

Honestly, make Zed ulti like Fiora ulti in terms of tracking/projectile popping and we'll be good.

While we're at it, can I has invulnerability during Fiora ulti? :x

On September 02 2013 15:18 miicah wrote:


Sorry, I can't agree with lich being more important than grail, his mana costs are crazy and you can barely harass at all without grail.

On September 02 2013 15:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Current thought for the day:

Youmuu's is fracking OP on Dominion and, now that I think about it, is actually very cost-efficient on SR too (double the flat pen of Cleaver+amazing active).

Hmm, going to have to test it out.

Honestly, make Zed ulti like Fiora ulti in terms of tracking/projectile popping and we'll be good.

While we're at it, can I has invulnerability during Fiora ulti? :x

On September 02 2013 15:48 Ryuu314 wrote:

if anything, Fiora ult needs to be more like Zed ult than the other way around.

On September 02 2013 15:52 cLutZ wrote:


Why? You want more binary characters?

On September 02 2013 16:18 Numy wrote:


Huh no it just isn't working right. You shouldn't take random AoE damage while ulting much like zed can't.

On September 02 2013 16:41 cLutZ wrote:


Besides Zed, which ults cant you take damage during? Such a "feature" just makes a difficult to balance champ even harder to balance.