[Patch 3.10a: Worlds Balance] General Discussion - Page 12

On August 23 2013 00:31 TheYango wrote:

Hmm, that's what I'd thought, but someone told me otherwise.

Ok, it's just LPL then.

On August 23 2013 00:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:


I'm guessing (see guessing) that he means Lucian's double hit passive will work far better with a BT -> LW rush to get the most out of that double hit damage + AD scaling ability damage, whereas many will take him in the standard IE/BoRK first path that seems to dominate the ADC meta currently.

On August 23 2013 00:36 -Zoda- wrote:
I can agree about the time issue to adapt though. Koreans haven't played Aatrox at all, barely played Lissandra and it took a good month before seeing the first Aatrox in LCS. Very likely we don't see any Lucian at worlds.
The adaptation on items seems a bit faster though, as long as it doesn't make a champion suddenly OP.

On August 23 2013 00:37 PrinceXizor wrote:

You can take it further than that, Items like Wits End, sword of the divine, Trinity Force. Grabbing Cheap cost efficient items like hexdrinker allowing lucian to fight earlier and for less money than typical builds.

On August 23 2013 00:36 -Zoda- wrote:
I can agree about the time issue to adapt though. Koreans haven't played Aatrox at all, barely played Lissandra and it took a good month before seeing the first Aatrox in LCS. Very likely we don't see any Lucian at worlds.
The adaptation on items seems a bit faster though, as long as it doesn't make a champion suddenly OP.

On August 23 2013 00:56 onlywonderboy wrote:

Aatrox is weird because EU is the only region (that I know of) that really likes him. Also I'm not sold that he's that worthy of a pick, he hasn't really impressed me in any EU LCS games.

On August 23 2013 00:43 Jek wrote:
Just stack AS, get a cleaver and watch his (Lucian) ultimate destroy everyone. Been carrying with him all day using all sorts of odd builds. He falls into one of the following three catagories:
a) He's bonkers.
b) I'm a natural with him.
c) Nobody knows how to play against him.

Since b) by default is not the case I'd say it's either a or c.

Hilarious and redic in lane with Nami or Leona.

EDIT: Typos

On August 23 2013 01:01 wei2coolman wrote:

I don't get how AS is really needed? If anything, his kit doesn't need it.
Black Cleaver is probably pretty good, for the same reason it's good on MF, but if you're rushing for a cheezy BC because of his ulti, why not play MF?

On August 23 2013 01:03 onlywonderboy wrote:

I assume because his ult scales with attack speed.

On August 23 2013 01:04 wei2coolman wrote:

Oh, does it? well in that case I could see it being used.

On August 23 2013 01:05 onlywonderboy wrote:

Yeah, more attack speed = more bullets

On August 23 2013 00:48 AwayFromLife wrote:
What's the over/under on Yi's nerfs? Damage hit seems harsh, but the W and E changes make me think it's overall evened out. Since E's AD boost is a flat 10% per level and W's heal got buffed, going QWE (or even WQE) in lane isn't as bad now, helping his slightly frustrating laning phase.

On August 23 2013 01:06 ArchAngelSC wrote:

How did W heal get buffed?

On August 23 2013 00:49 wei2coolman wrote:

I thought about triforce, but it really doesn't work as well as you think.
Sheen procs work the same way, with or without his passive. His 2nd auto attack on his passive doesn't offer any benefits off triforce, other than refreshing rage.

Wits End's +42 on hit, is sort of pointless. The item cost 2400 gold. If your burst is your main concern, especially with spell comboing, the AS doesn't matter. You're far better off spending 1550 for BF sword that gives +45 AD, which scales with your spells and still gives you the +45 dmg per hit (reduced on 2nd hit).

Hexdrinker is only cost effective because of its defensive ability, if you don't need the defensive aspect of it, it's not very cost efficient at all... So unless you're solo laning lucian against an magic caster, wit's end and hexdrinker sorta pointless.

Again, what good midgame itemization are you looking at that changes outside typical ADC builds?