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[Patch 3.10a: Worlds Balance] General Discussion - Page 14

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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 22 2013 16:40 GMT
#261
hurricane shiv lucian
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 16:43:06
August 22 2013 16:42 GMT
#262
On August 23 2013 01:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
hurricane shiv lucian

hurricane is fun because you fire 6 shots with his passive. hurricane shiv grants you essentially a free shiv prov every dash, its just expensive. lol
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 22 2013 16:50 GMT
#263
The login music is vi level of awesome.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 22 2013 16:54 GMT
#264

by The Crystal Method


zzzz, Riot big
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
August 22 2013 16:56 GMT
#265
Best login music for me is still Diana.
Forever Young
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 22 2013 16:56 GMT
#266
On August 23 2013 01:33 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
Other fun fact, temporary speed boots affect the number of bullets (Blood Boil, Ghost Blade) but Sword of the Divine active doesn't to avoid abuse (according to the wiki)

Yeah.. it says this. but it definitely works with SOTD active.


Before everyone goes crazy thinking this is going to be awesome, keep in mind that you lose the 45% passive attack speed the moment you activate SotD. As a result you only gain 2-4 shots (depending on ult rank) compared to just sitting on the passive attack speed.

Lucian's passive will also eat two charges of SotD.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 16:57:15
August 22 2013 16:56 GMT
#267
Also he doesn't need mana, have you really looked at his pool and costs? He's got barely less mana than Graves but his abilities cost 10 less mana min. (his W cost doesn't scale, E has its cost reduced, etc.). Graves get into mana issues if he's too trigger-happy, but that won't happen to Lucian.

On August 23 2013 01:34 NotSorry wrote:
Just picked up new champ, in loading screen, rush triforce? or like BT > LW?

Experiment and come back to us with results?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 16:58:03
August 22 2013 16:57 GMT
#268
On August 23 2013 01:56 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:33 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 23 2013 01:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
Other fun fact, temporary speed boots affect the number of bullets (Blood Boil, Ghost Blade) but Sword of the Divine active doesn't to avoid abuse (according to the wiki)

Yeah.. it says this. but it definitely works with SOTD active.


Before everyone goes crazy thinking this is going to be awesome, keep in mind that you lose the 45% passive attack speed the moment you activate SotD. As a result you only gain 2-4 shots (depending on ult rank) compared to just sitting on the passive attack speed.

Lucian's passive will also eat two charges of SotD.

^ the eat two charges thing is kind of a positive. since it also crits the second shot.
On August 23 2013 01:56 Alaric wrote:
Also he doesn't need mana, have you really looked at his pool and costs? He's got barely less mana than Graves but his abilities cost 10 less mana min. (his W cost doesn't scale, E has its cost reduced, etc.). Graves get into mana issues if he's too trigger-happy, but that won't happen to Lucian.

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:34 NotSorry wrote:
Just picked up new champ, in loading screen, rush triforce? or like BT > LW?

Experiment and come back to us with results?

have you played lucian? i have. he's mana hungry.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
August 22 2013 16:57 GMT
#269
On August 23 2013 01:42 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
hurricane shiv lucian

hurricane is fun because you fire 6 shots with his passive. hurricane shiv grants you essentially a free shiv prov every dash, its just expensive. lol


I'm 90% sure that hurricane does not synergize with shiv whatsoever, the extra attacks from the orb do not count as "attacking" for shiv, shiv stacks are not on hit. I could be wrong, testing now.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 22 2013 16:58 GMT
#270
On August 23 2013 01:57 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:56 Seuss wrote:
On August 23 2013 01:33 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 23 2013 01:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
Other fun fact, temporary speed boots affect the number of bullets (Blood Boil, Ghost Blade) but Sword of the Divine active doesn't to avoid abuse (according to the wiki)

Yeah.. it says this. but it definitely works with SOTD active.


Before everyone goes crazy thinking this is going to be awesome, keep in mind that you lose the 45% passive attack speed the moment you activate SotD. As a result you only gain 2-4 shots (depending on ult rank) compared to just sitting on the passive attack speed.

Lucian's passive will also eat two charges of SotD.

^ the eat two charges thing is kind of a positive. since it also crits the second shot.
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:56 Alaric wrote:
Also he doesn't need mana, have you really looked at his pool and costs? He's got barely less mana than Graves but his abilities cost 10 less mana min. (his W cost doesn't scale, E has its cost reduced, etc.). Graves get into mana issues if he's too trigger-happy, but that won't happen to Lucian.

On August 23 2013 01:34 NotSorry wrote:
Just picked up new champ, in loading screen, rush triforce? or like BT > LW?

Experiment and come back to us with results?

have you played lucian? i have. he's mana hungry.

'cept for the part where the 2nd shot deals less damage so you'd rather just fire 3 normal autos then use his passive once SotD's active is gone, y'know.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 22 2013 17:01 GMT
#271
On August 23 2013 01:58 Alaric wrote:
'cept for the part where the 2nd shot deals less damage so you'd rather just fire 3 normal autos then use his passive once SotD's active is gone, y'know.

again, have you played lucian? he's strongest with regards to burst, not damage over time. he's far more like corki than any other carry. SotD attack dash attack does 500-550% total attack damage in around 1 second. if you instead just auto three times while not casting you deal 600% damage over 2 seconds.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
August 22 2013 17:03 GMT
#272
On August 23 2013 02:01 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:58 Alaric wrote:
'cept for the part where the 2nd shot deals less damage so you'd rather just fire 3 normal autos then use his passive once SotD's active is gone, y'know.

again, have you played lucian? he's strongest with regards to burst, not damage over time. he's far more like corki than any other carry. SotD attack dash attack does 500-550% total attack damage in around 1 second. if you instead just auto three times while not casting you deal 600% damage over 2 seconds.


It's hard to agree with PX, but it's easy to disagree with Alaric.

Anyways I also view him as a burst ADC, not one to sit around and do damage over time a la Trist.
Hey! How you doin'?
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 17:08:23
August 22 2013 17:08 GMT
#273
On August 23 2013 01:56 Alaric wrote:
Also he doesn't need mana, have you really looked at his pool and costs? He's got barely less mana than Graves but his abilities cost 10 less mana min. (his W cost doesn't scale, E has its cost reduced, etc.). Graves get into mana issues if he's too trigger-happy, but that won't happen to Lucian.

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:34 NotSorry wrote:
Just picked up new champ, in loading screen, rush triforce? or like BT > LW?

Experiment and come back to us with results?

Rushed BT > LW, out traded Draven the whole way, his poke range is crazy and that passive is like LOL, Come at me Bro!

7-0-x
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
August 22 2013 17:11 GMT
#274
On August 23 2013 01:50 nafta wrote:
The login music is vi level of awesome.

I had to login at work to see if this lived up to the hype.

Holy shit this is op
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
August 22 2013 17:15 GMT
#275
On August 23 2013 01:57 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:42 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 23 2013 01:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
hurricane shiv lucian

hurricane is fun because you fire 6 shots with his passive. hurricane shiv grants you essentially a free shiv prov every dash, its just expensive. lol


I'm 90% sure that hurricane does not synergize with shiv whatsoever, the extra attacks from the orb do not count as "attacking" for shiv, shiv stacks are not on hit. I could be wrong, testing now.


I am wrong, wtf, I swear it didn't work when I tried it when those items first came out...
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 22 2013 17:16 GMT
#276
On August 23 2013 02:15 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:57 phyvo wrote:
On August 23 2013 01:42 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 23 2013 01:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
hurricane shiv lucian

hurricane is fun because you fire 6 shots with his passive. hurricane shiv grants you essentially a free shiv prov every dash, its just expensive. lol


I'm 90% sure that hurricane does not synergize with shiv whatsoever, the extra attacks from the orb do not count as "attacking" for shiv, shiv stacks are not on hit. I could be wrong, testing now.


I am wrong, wtf, I swear it didn't work when I tried it when those items first came out...

nah its always worked like that man.
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
August 22 2013 17:21 GMT
#277
Mmmm that Heca skin. I don't even play him but I might start with that skin.

Should I buy Lucian package or just the champ? I think the skin looks average, I don't want to be disappointed like I was with the Zac bundle and the Aatrox bundle.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 22 2013 17:22 GMT
#278
On August 23 2013 02:21 TSBspartacus wrote:
Mmmm that Heca skin. I don't even play him but I might start with that skin.

Should I buy Lucian package or just the champ? I think the skin looks average, I don't want to be disappointed like I was with the Zac bundle and the Aatrox bundle.


The original skin is a lot better.Most skins for new champs are pretty meh honestly.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 22 2013 17:25 GMT
#279
I actually wouldn't mind if they made a straight recolor of Zac for every major color of the rainbow, and sold them for 520 RP each. Kind of like how there are all the different colors of Yoshis.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 22 2013 17:27 GMT
#280
On August 23 2013 02:03 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 02:01 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 23 2013 01:58 Alaric wrote:
'cept for the part where the 2nd shot deals less damage so you'd rather just fire 3 normal autos then use his passive once SotD's active is gone, y'know.

again, have you played lucian? he's strongest with regards to burst, not damage over time. he's far more like corki than any other carry. SotD attack dash attack does 500-550% total attack damage in around 1 second. if you instead just auto three times while not casting you deal 600% damage over 2 seconds.


It's hard to agree with PX, but it's easy to disagree with Alaric.

Anyways I also view him as a burst ADC, not one to sit around and do damage over time a la Trist.


While he's certainly on the burstier end of things, all ADCs have to do damage over time eventually. You're not an ADC if all you do is burst.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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