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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On August 22 2013 23:20 ExoFun wrote: Jungle riven viable with the new Q? invading etc would be so awesome. Surprise gank by jumping over the riverbush edge. Mhmm... Just did some testing. Dis gon be gud. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
So, yeah. There are a bunch of people affected by freezes and such, and I've checked that it isn't my bandwith or connection in general (with torrents, other games, streams, etc.) and it's definitely only LoL, but the community manager guy posted on EUW and said they're monitoring and there's nothing wrong at all on their end. Wat. ._. On August 22 2013 22:53 Slayer91 wrote: w feels a lot faster for jungling though i used to get 3 in w and 5 in q, i might try 5 in q, but 5 in w worked pretty well for me for whatever reason. i noticed in your guide you said W/E is a matter of preference. wat? E is like the most trash scaling skill the in game, maxing it gives you liek 50 extra damage and shorter recharge time but that barely matters I remember having some trouble wording that part, yeah... I knew some people prefered to have E readily available at any time so they did stuff like max Q, put 3 points in E to reduce the ammo recharge time, then max W, or they start with 2-3 points in E then max Q then W then finish E, stuff like that, so the idea was that "if you feel like you don't get enough charges you can put some points in E, W def. scales better with levels though". The main advantage of E is still the aa-reset and the fact that it grants you longer range for that one aa, which sometimes you really wish you had when you're barely out of range of your target after he started running, and you can't finish him off because he's almost as fast as you. The AoE is stronger for farming than in fights usually, due to who you tend to target (eg. not the frontline with people behind them) and how your ult makes said fights a mess anyway. Plus only the main target receives a W stack, the cone doesn't apply it. Granted I use AS marks and AD quints when jungling Vi, I dislike how AD/AD or ArPen/AD is slower on buffs/golems and thus makes me lose a bit more HP (it's actually compensated by less damage taken from wolves/wraiths, makes almost no difference in the long run), I've tried switching to it to form a better opinion for myself but I'm kinda not playing with current state of the server so I've only got like 4 games with these. I also only use one E on Wolves, makes me lose some seconds but saves mana, since she tears through the jungle if you liberaly burn E charges but gets too low on mana to gank if you do it too much. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
E adds so little d amage even fi you do hit someone behind in the cone it still is only 50 more damage than you would with level 1 E and you should go into fights with 2x E charges ready anyway (Q auto E+auto+E+auto/q is 2x w procs already so getting 1 extra E will work on your 3rd w proc which is -18% of max hp not to mention the attack speed loss if you max E>W, for like 200 more dmg total herp derp) id suggest 20% more attack speed makes up for a target getting just out of range but enough for your E also | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 22 2013 23:55 Seuss wrote: I'll give Lucian one thing, he has a ridiculously awesome login screen. And if he's not OP now he'll be buffed soon so I'm not worried about my upcoming purchase. Especially since it'll be the first I've made with IP in a while. >_< | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On August 22 2013 23:55 Seuss wrote: I'll give Lucian one thing, he has a ridiculously awesome login screen. His passive makes me feel depressed. Its just so strong for creating a mid game timing that i feel its going to be wasted on the majority of the player base | ||
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WiseBagus
Canada452 Posts
He won the WCS Korea final. What do you guys think about Tri Force on Sivir, with Phage + Vamp into BT/TF? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 23 2013 00:05 PrinceXizor wrote: His passive makes me feel depressed. Its just so strong for creating a mid game timing that i feel its going to be wasted on the majority of the player base It's not a hard passive to use... it's essentially a better version of lux passive... On August 23 2013 00:14 WiseBagus wrote: He won the WCS Korea final. What do you guys think about Tri Force on Sivir, with Phage + Vamp into BT/TF? She scales so well with AD, triforce feels sorta wasted, BT first is still probably best. | ||
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On August 22 2013 23:51 Slayer91 wrote: buy a manapot if you think you need to have extra mana to react to something if it happens E adds so little d amage even fi you do hit someone behind in the cone it still is only 50 more damage than you would with level 1 E and you should go into fights with 2x E charges ready anyway (Q auto E+auto+E+auto/q is 2x w procs already so getting 1 extra E will work on your 3rd w proc which is -18% of max hp not to mention the attack speed loss if you max E>W, for like 200 more dmg total herp derp) id suggest 20% more attack speed makes up for a target getting just out of range but enough for your E also Personally I find attack speed a waste of time on Vi. Sure it's great for clearing the jungle but it's rare that you get to just sit there and hammer away on a single target. I'd rather go for high front end burst damage. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On August 23 2013 00:15 wei2coolman wrote: It's not a hard passive to use... it's essentially a better version of lux passive... No i mean its a passive that will be so much stronger to be used in rapid succession for burst, and especially with use with a lot of the powerful mid game items, rather than the typical end game rush that Carries normally try to go for. Essentially a lot of his kit screams powerful mid game, but he's going to be forced to fit into those cookie cutter builds that all carries try for. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 23 2013 00:21 PrinceXizor wrote: No i mean its a passive that will be so much stronger to be used in rapid succession for burst, and especially with use with a lot of the powerful mid game items, rather than the typical end game rush that Carries normally try to go for. Essentially a lot of his kit screams powerful mid game, but he's going to be forced to fit into those cookie cutter builds that all carries try for. What do you mean? What items are you thinking that'll make his midgame superior that deviates from normal ADC build? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 23 2013 00:19 onlywonderboy wrote: Triforce changes so close to Worlds is pretty annoying, but it could have been way worse. I realize having the mentality of "they could have fucked up way more" isn't the best, but it's where I stand lol. I realize I'm somewhat biased given that the two regions I care about most are the ones that get shafted by this. Bear in mind how both LPL and OGN are still on 3.8. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On August 22 2013 23:44 Alaric wrote: I'd be very happy about the triforce changes because my 2 main top laners are Jax and Irelia, but then I play 2 ARAMs to test the server and there are still the random 4+ seconds freezes, the entire teamfights that happen in a flash, my champ moving around at 0 HP for some time before the server decides to remember that at 0 HP you're dead, and at the end of the 2nd one, when the enemy nexus exploded it took a full 7 seconds before the "Victory!" button appeared because of a freeze. So, yeah. There are a bunch of people affected by freezes and such, and I've checked that it isn't my bandwith or connection in general (with torrents, other games, streams, etc.) and it's definitely only LoL, but the community manager guy posted on EUW and said they're monitoring and there's nothing wrong at all on their end. Wat. ._. Its not just EUW. Couldn't even play a solo custom game on east. #riotplz. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 23 2013 00:22 wei2coolman wrote: What do you mean? What items are you thinking that'll make his midgame superior that deviates from normal ADC build? I'm guessing (see guessing) that he means Lucian's double hit passive will work far better with a BT -> LW rush to get the most out of that double hit damage + AD scaling ability damage, whereas many will take him in the standard IE/BoRK first path that seems to dominate the ADC meta currently. On August 23 2013 00:28 TheYango wrote: I realize I'm somewhat biased given that the two regions I care about most are the ones that get shafted by this. Bear in mind how both LPL and OGN are still on 3.8. That is fucked and I don't understand how they can justify doing that to any region. Can you imagine the bitching from NA if this happened to us? | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On August 23 2013 00:28 TheYango wrote: I realize I'm somewhat biased given that the two regions I care about most are the ones that get shafted by this. Bear in mind how both LPL and OGN are still on 3.8. OGN is on 3.10, just checked the VoD, inSec is sitting on a Spectral Cowl. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 23 2013 00:30 onlywonderboy wrote: OGN is on 3.10, just checked the VoD, inSec is sitting on a Spectral Cowl. Hmm, that's what I'd thought, but someone told me otherwise. Ok, it's just LPL then. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 23 2013 00:28 AsmodeusXI wrote: I'm guessing (see guessing) that he means Lucian's double hit passive will work far better with a BT -> LW rush to get the most out of that double hit damage + AD scaling ability damage, whereas many will take him in the standard IE/BoRK first path that seems to dominate the ADC meta currently. That is fucked and I don't understand how they can justify doing that to any region. Can you imagine the bitching from NA if this happened to us? BT + LW isn't that uncommon either. Anyone know the Yi win rates at challengers/diamond for the new Yi? Was it that problematic? | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 23 2013 00:31 TheYango wrote: Hmm, that's what I'd thought, but someone told me otherwise. Ok, it's just LPL then. STILL THO. I mean, you see it less now, at least on the more common Champion picks (Ashe, Varus, Vayne, etc.) but sure, it's not UNCOMMON. I was also thinking those were the items that would be lead to that midgame burst. Maybe PX had something else in mind. | ||
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