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chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
August 13 2013 13:53 GMT
#4701
On August 13 2013 22:48 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 22:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:50 Osmoses wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:40 chinstrap wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
Darius shits on melee and gets shit on by 90% of ranged. That's pretty much it.

An in-depth guide would be : you can faceroll those matchups, take defensive runes for the others and get a penta in teamfights.


In a nutshell that is bang on

I disagree, Darius pre6 is a pussycat :p

Wait wat.
Darius is the best lvl1, lvl2, lvl3, lvl4, lvl5, lvl6, lvl7, lvl8, lvl9, lvl10 and so on and so forth of all fucking melee characters.

Is not , lots of previously mentioned toplaners outtrade him early.

As for kennen... Preeetty sure darius pull is the exact same range as kennen auto.


Its like 10 range difference in kennens favour I belive so you can always hook him. If the kennen is good though he will always have at least 1 mark up so he can insta stun you, trololol away with e then make you cry under tower while you wait for hook cd back.

I agree with me_tolkien though, no melee can out trade him apart from maybe riven but even that is close. Darius has kill potential against all melees at all levels if they missplay
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 13 2013 13:56 GMT
#4702
On August 13 2013 22:48 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 22:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:50 Osmoses wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:40 chinstrap wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
Darius shits on melee and gets shit on by 90% of ranged. That's pretty much it.

An in-depth guide would be : you can faceroll those matchups, take defensive runes for the others and get a penta in teamfights.


In a nutshell that is bang on

I disagree, Darius pre6 is a pussycat :p

Wait wat.
Darius is the best lvl1, lvl2, lvl3, lvl4, lvl5, lvl6, lvl7, lvl8, lvl9, lvl10 and so on and so forth of all fucking melee characters.

Is not , lots of previously mentioned toplaners outtrade him early.

As for kennen... Preeetty sure darius pull is the exact same range as kennen auto.

Kennen's auto is slightly longer, but it's possible to be moving forward while he's in auto animation and maybe grab him. The thing is, if you already have a mark from autos (or two from him pressing W) on you, you'll probably get stunned by lightning rush (he's on top of you because you grabbed him) -> W as he backs off and eat a lot of harass. Grabbing kennen just doesn't work very well, especially since his escape is WAY shorter of a CD than grab.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
August 13 2013 13:58 GMT
#4703
So... Arcade pony. I bought arcade sona without even playing Sona, might have to do the same shit again for hecarim :x
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 13 2013 13:59 GMT
#4704
On August 13 2013 21:08 Don_Julio wrote:
Is Nunu support still good? Is he just not picked as support because he's such an asshole in the jungle?



No. Bottom line was the nerf of Blood Boil that really shut down the mighty power of support Nunu. Nowadays i only play him top, i consider him weak, with the current picks, in the jungle.
hi
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 14:03:35
August 13 2013 14:03 GMT
#4705
On August 13 2013 22:53 chinstrap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 22:48 Osmoses wrote:
On August 13 2013 22:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:50 Osmoses wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:40 chinstrap wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
Darius shits on melee and gets shit on by 90% of ranged. That's pretty much it.

An in-depth guide would be : you can faceroll those matchups, take defensive runes for the others and get a penta in teamfights.


In a nutshell that is bang on

I disagree, Darius pre6 is a pussycat :p

Wait wat.
Darius is the best lvl1, lvl2, lvl3, lvl4, lvl5, lvl6, lvl7, lvl8, lvl9, lvl10 and so on and so forth of all fucking melee characters.

Is not , lots of previously mentioned toplaners outtrade him early.

As for kennen... Preeetty sure darius pull is the exact same range as kennen auto.


Its like 10 range difference in kennens favour I belive so you can always hook him. If the kennen is good though he will always have at least 1 mark up so he can insta stun you, trololol away with e then make you cry under tower while you wait for hook cd back.

I agree with me_tolkien though, no melee can out trade him apart from maybe riven but even that is close. Darius has kill potential against all melees at all levels if they missplay

I always jump right at him lvl1 as Riven, Udyr should destroy him equally easy pre6, and post6 Jax and possibly Tryndamere ought to have the edge if properly specced/itemized.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 13 2013 14:22 GMT
#4706
So i was thinking about buying a toplaner but i already have a ton of top laners that i just never learnt to play properly that are completely viable but i dont own enough mids, especially assassins. (My mid pool consists of Morg, Lux + Ahri / cassio if i have to.)

I was looking at Talon, who is viable for both mid and top or is there a better option for assassin i know talon doesnt really qualify as one I mean there is Zed, but he just seems meh. Doesnt really need to be a top laner too so i guess i can take my pick of assassins.

What should i buy to learn how to play assassins + they are a solid pick?
Useless wet fish.
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
August 13 2013 14:23 GMT
#4707
On August 13 2013 23:03 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 22:53 chinstrap wrote:
On August 13 2013 22:48 Osmoses wrote:
On August 13 2013 22:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:50 Osmoses wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:40 chinstrap wrote:
On August 13 2013 21:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
Darius shits on melee and gets shit on by 90% of ranged. That's pretty much it.

An in-depth guide would be : you can faceroll those matchups, take defensive runes for the others and get a penta in teamfights.


In a nutshell that is bang on

I disagree, Darius pre6 is a pussycat :p

Wait wat.
Darius is the best lvl1, lvl2, lvl3, lvl4, lvl5, lvl6, lvl7, lvl8, lvl9, lvl10 and so on and so forth of all fucking melee characters.

Is not , lots of previously mentioned toplaners outtrade him early.

As for kennen... Preeetty sure darius pull is the exact same range as kennen auto.


Its like 10 range difference in kennens favour I belive so you can always hook him. If the kennen is good though he will always have at least 1 mark up so he can insta stun you, trololol away with e then make you cry under tower while you wait for hook cd back.

I agree with me_tolkien though, no melee can out trade him apart from maybe riven but even that is close. Darius has kill potential against all melees at all levels if they missplay

I always jump right at him lvl1 as Riven, Udyr should destroy him equally easy pre6, and post6 Jax and possibly Tryndamere ought to have the edge if properly specced/itemized.

I've had success against some overconfident Darius as Xin. At lvl 2-5 there's a window where you can actually out duel him. Plus W gives you some good sustain later on. Have to stack HP against his ult though. I built Cutlass/Botrk into a giant's belt item or two.
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
August 13 2013 14:34 GMT
#4708
I'm Giarc89 on EUW btw.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/24701861#profile

Like I said I'm still working my way through gold so take my opinions with a grain of salt. I am well aware that a lot of the lanes / match ups that I am playing are just me monopolising on the mistakes of the person I play against. I do not think that Darius would be good in competitive level due to his trash 1v2 and and high elo he is definitely not a safe early pick!

I'm in queue now with Darius so I am sure to end my streak now!
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 15:01:47
August 13 2013 14:52 GMT
#4709
As if by magic I first blood tryn and then get outplayed to fuck for the rest of the game! Hahaha
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 15:16:11
August 13 2013 14:56 GMT
#4710
Wut. Talon is an assassin. His 1v1 isn't good enough against tanky champs to be a splitpusher, Rake's cd is too long and its range too short for him to be a poker like Kha'Zix used to be, and the way his E and W work only his ult is a reliable AoE in a teamfight so he's not an AoE nuker either.
He also doesn't have the escapes or defensive options to be a diver, Talon's job is straight-up to flank a threatening enemy squishy and burst him down before he can contribute too much to the fight, then back off for a good 10s until he can pretend to be relevant again.

As for Darius we've got a Darius thread already, but Smash doesn't have the time to come here and update it anymore so...
People shouldn't underestimate his passive at early levels, this shit hurts like hell and since you'd want to itemise armour and HP to survive his all-in it's not like you'll build MR to reduce its damage.

Also forget what I posted about PBE Phage.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 13 2013 15:04 GMT
#4711
Hey, has everyone ever heard about http://www.lolguides.com/ ? Reading around the site, it sounds like a rather typical scam (like 'I used to ask 47$ a month, but now it's only a 67$ one-off payment for a "short time"!). No way to find any threads or comments about them online. Is it a known Hoax?
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 13 2013 15:07 GMT
#4712
On August 14 2013 00:04 The_Unseen wrote:
Hey, has everyone ever heard about http://www.lolguides.com/ ? Reading around the site, it sounds like a rather typical scam (like 'I used to ask 47$ a month, but now it's only a 67$ one-off payment for a "short time"!). No way to find any threads or comments about them online. Is it a known Hoax?


What are they going to tell you that you can't learn here or on lolking or any other quality guide? Take your $67 and buy a nice pair of jeans.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 13 2013 15:10 GMT
#4713
On August 14 2013 00:04 The_Unseen wrote:
Hey, has everyone ever heard about http://www.lolguides.com/ ? Reading around the site, it sounds like a rather typical scam (like 'I used to ask 47$ a month, but now it's only a 67$ one-off payment for a "short time"!). No way to find any threads or comments about them online. Is it a known Hoax?

Sounds like the pay guides for WoW. Totally legal, just dumb... and inevitably piratable.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 13 2013 15:10 GMT
#4714
On August 14 2013 00:07 Infundibulum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 00:04 The_Unseen wrote:
Hey, has everyone ever heard about http://www.lolguides.com/ ? Reading around the site, it sounds like a rather typical scam (like 'I used to ask 47$ a month, but now it's only a 67$ one-off payment for a "short time"!). No way to find any threads or comments about them online. Is it a known Hoax?


What are they going to tell you that you can't learn here or on lolking or any other quality guide? Take your $67 and buy a nice pair of jeans.


I'm not saying I want to buy it, did you read my post? I'm just worried this might be a hoax that no one knows about
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 13 2013 15:12 GMT
#4715
On August 13 2013 23:56 Alaric wrote:
Wut. Talon is an assassin. His 1v1 isn't as good against tanky champs to be a slpitpusher, Rake's cd is too long and its range too short for him to be a poker like Kha'Zix used to be, and the way his E and W work only his ult is a reliable AoE in a teamfight so he's not an AoE nuker either.
He also doesn't have the escapes or defensive options to be a diver, Talon's job is straight-up to flank a threatening enemy squishy and burst him down before he can contribute too much to the fight, then back off for a good 10s until he can pretend to be relevant again.

As for Darius we've got a Darius thread already, but Smash doesn't have the time to come here and update it anymore so...
People shouldn't underestimate his passive at early levels, this shit hurts like hell and since you'd want to itemise armour and HP to survive his all-in it's not like you'll build MR to reduce its damage.

Also forget what I posted about PBE Phage.

Getting health back over armor is nice, but the new passive is still inferior to Icy imo.
It's your boy Guzma!
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
August 13 2013 15:14 GMT
#4716
On August 14 2013 00:10 The_Unseen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 00:07 Infundibulum wrote:
On August 14 2013 00:04 The_Unseen wrote:
Hey, has everyone ever heard about http://www.lolguides.com/ ? Reading around the site, it sounds like a rather typical scam (like 'I used to ask 47$ a month, but now it's only a 67$ one-off payment for a "short time"!). No way to find any threads or comments about them online. Is it a known Hoax?


What are they going to tell you that you can't learn here or on lolking or any other quality guide? Take your $67 and buy a nice pair of jeans.


I'm not saying I want to buy it, did you read my post? I'm just worried this might be a hoax that no one knows about


Too lazy to check out if it's a hoax or not, busy getting my penis enlarged in 4 easy steps.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 15:21:38
August 13 2013 15:19 GMT
#4717
Anyone willing to pay $67 for super duper top secrets on a game to "get better" deserves to have that money taken from them. If your below diamond - You're not going to improve tenfold reading some expensive tips you wont find on other free websites. If your above diamond - you probably already know it all and the only thing thats going to benefit you for that money is coaching from some tip-top challenger.

Also - Just buy RP and get those hax skins like steel legion lux. Much better ratio of money-to-win imo
Useless wet fish.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 13 2013 15:25 GMT
#4718
Haha I've been hearing about them hackzor skins for a while now, what are they and what makes them so imba in game actually?
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 15:28:19
August 13 2013 15:27 GMT
#4719
On August 14 2013 00:25 The_Unseen wrote:
Haha I've been hearing about them hackzor skins for a while now, what are they and what makes them so imba in game actually?


Steel Legion Lux's projectiles are harder to see than the other skins, esp her binding. I'm not sure what the other ones are though - i remember hearing that the legendary vlad skin has a better AA animation so it's easier to last hit, but that doesn't seem exactly gamebreaking.

edit: iBlitz being another one, his hook looks like it materializes from the aether and then you are grabbed and dead.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 15:27:54
August 13 2013 15:27 GMT
#4720
You can barely see their animations / the animations are so borked you see them later then others or assume they're hitboxes are different.

Both situations give you a shorter (miniscule) time to react if your not eagle eye 20/20 topgun pilot at all times
Useless wet fish.
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