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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
August 09 2013 16:11 GMT
#3701
Would Sona be a good holder of hybrid pen runes?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
August 09 2013 16:14 GMT
#3702
On August 10 2013 01:11 Dark_Chill wrote:
Would Sona be a good holder of hybrid pen runes?


Minor spoiler of the OGN Champions games today

+ Show Spoiler +
I think Madlife ran hybrid pens as Sona today, so yes
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:15:21
August 09 2013 16:14 GMT
#3703
On August 10 2013 01:11 Dark_Chill wrote:
Would Sona be a good holder of hybrid pen runes?


better get armour to tank bitches
hybrid pen not bad tho
or just regular mpen is better later anyways
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
August 09 2013 16:25 GMT
#3704
I do like that SC2 paved the way for large scale game tournaments that were held on a fairly consistent basis, at least in NA/EU
Bronze player stuck in platinum
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 09 2013 16:32 GMT
#3705
On August 10 2013 01:25 Nos- wrote:
I do like that SC2 paved the way for large scale game tournaments that were held on a fairly consistent basis, at least in NA/EU

BW paved the way for SC2 who paved the way for the next big hit (LoL). And in the futur we will say that LoL paved the way for XXX game to be successfull.
the circle of video games!
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
August 09 2013 16:34 GMT
#3706
We need "LoL is dieing" threads.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 09 2013 16:39 GMT
#3707
Man, Zed is so boring to lane against mid. He clears super fast and has short enough cooldowns that he can just instaclear the wave and still be able to fight you, contrary to a bunch of mids who use longer cd spells for this. Plus he's energy-based so he has no real mid-term consequences for spamming.
And since you're often a squishy, his W is a threat whenever you come close (compared to top) so even zoning him out outpoking him is rather hard.

That's a different kind of boring from long range clearers like Anivia, TF or Lux, but it's boring as hell nonetheless.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:42:00
August 09 2013 16:41 GMT
#3708
On August 10 2013 01:14 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:11 Dark_Chill wrote:
Would Sona be a good holder of hybrid pen runes?


better get armour to tank bitches
hybrid pen not bad tho
or just regular mpen is better later anyways

AFAIK, madlife often runs 1-2 Health quints to bulk up, so swapping marks out to penetration isn't as suicidal.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
August 09 2013 16:50 GMT
#3709
On August 09 2013 20:16 Capped wrote:
Yes you technically didnt lose anything, but on the flip side you technically did.


Dat logic. wtf lol. Dodging does nothing except change some pixels on your screen. The only rating that matters, your hidden rating, stays the same.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
August 09 2013 16:53 GMT
#3710
I think hybrid pen is very strong on Sona, as you get significantly more bullying potential at lv1 and lv3. Many times I've been able to safely push the lane because one/both of their duo is already significantly damaged before the jungler can finish his buffs and come gank.

In terms of how few options there are for rune setups, how drastically would things have to change before we more variety? I think it could be interesting if there existed runes that couldn't be easily price benchmarked and then accordingly min/maxed. For example, what about Sight Range reds, %Interest yellows, Projectile Speed blues, and Inventory Slot quints? These could also be implemented as masteries, but I think there's so much more potential for runes than invisible bonus starting items.
Trust in Bayes.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:56:36
August 09 2013 16:54 GMT
#3711
On August 10 2013 01:39 Alaric wrote:
Man, Zed is so boring to lane against mid. He clears super fast and has short enough cooldowns that he can just instaclear the wave and still be able to fight you, contrary to a bunch of mids who use longer cd spells for this. Plus he's energy-based so he has no real mid-term consequences for spamming.
And since you're often a squishy, his W is a threat whenever you come close (compared to top) so even zoning him out outpoking him is rather hard.

That's a different kind of boring from long range clearers like Anivia, TF or Lux, but it's boring as hell nonetheless.

That's when you bait his W out forcing him to blow flash when your jungler ganks at the same time so he's scared of using clone aggressively on you again. When people say things are boring mid I always assume they just take the easy way out and farm instead of actually trying to do anything.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
August 09 2013 16:55 GMT
#3712
On August 10 2013 01:32 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:25 Nos- wrote:
I do like that SC2 paved the way for large scale game tournaments that were held on a fairly consistent basis, at least in NA/EU

BW paved the way for SC2 who paved the way for the next big hit (LoL). And in the futur we will say that LoL paved the way for XXX game to be successfull.
the circle of video games!

It doesn't seem BW paved much outside of Korea, the west was more about CS and W3. But I might be mistaken, I didn't follow these at all.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
August 09 2013 16:55 GMT
#3713
On August 10 2013 01:50 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 20:16 Capped wrote:
Yes you technically didnt lose anything, but on the flip side you technically did.


Dat logic. wtf lol. Dodging does nothing except change some pixels on your screen. The only rating that matters, your hidden rating, stays the same.


So you're saying people should worry about the number they can't see, instead of the number they do see? That's not happening. It may be just an arbitrary representation, but it's the only thing we can see, therefore the only thing many people can care about, to whatever degree. No matter what your elo is, being in diamond 1 would probably feel pretty good.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
August 09 2013 17:03 GMT
#3714
I know I'm late to the whole Smartcast & Dumbcast by a couple pages but, if you have Smartcast on and you hold down the hotkey, the range indicator stays up

It's also how you aim Viktor's laser and Rumble's ult with Smartcasting.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 09 2013 17:17 GMT
#3715
On August 10 2013 02:03 silencefc wrote:
I know I'm late to the whole Smartcast & Dumbcast by a couple pages but, if you have Smartcast on and you hold down the hotkey, the range indicator stays up

It's also how you aim Viktor's laser and Rumble's ult with Smartcasting.


That's only if you have smartcast range indicator on. The exception being laser + rumble ult.
Jaedong :3
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 17:19:57
August 09 2013 17:18 GMT
#3716
On August 10 2013 01:54 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:39 Alaric wrote:
Man, Zed is so boring to lane against mid. He clears super fast and has short enough cooldowns that he can just instaclear the wave and still be able to fight you, contrary to a bunch of mids who use longer cd spells for this. Plus he's energy-based so he has no real mid-term consequences for spamming.
And since you're often a squishy, his W is a threat whenever you come close (compared to top) so even zoning him out outpoking him is rather hard.

That's a different kind of boring from long range clearers like Anivia, TF or Lux, but it's boring as hell nonetheless.

That's when you bait his W out forcing him to blow flash when your jungler ganks at the same time so he's scared of using clone aggressively on you again. When people say things are boring mid I always assume they just take the easy way out and farm instead of actually trying to do anything.

I actually call these lanes "boring" because even when trying it's hard to make stuff happen (well it'd obviously be different if I played Ahri/Fizz instead of Viktor/Ori), for example Viktor tends to outtrade Lux at short range but loses to her full burst combo (if she roots him, her auto range is barely more than his Q range so you can't reduce her damage with a shield), so you use Q-auto to harass her aggressively at early levels when you're more mana efficient than her with lower cooldowns. However, as soon as she gets a blue buff or chalice, and later some AP, she can start farming from max range and there's little you can do to punish her, unless you yourself get a blue buff so you can sustain using E on the wave to counter her pushing, then to poke her between waves before you can all-in.

Regarding Zed, maybe that's because my jungler never came, then (can't blame him on that one particular game, top was being easy to snowball, and I tend to see enemy junglers more than mine though it doesn't bother me). I see the variety it brings and the dynamic it creates for junglers routes, match-ups, etc., however as the laner having to deal with it it's still kinda boring since I dislike having to rely on my jungler to be able to do something else than "farm" and "defend against his all-ins".

Oh crap people just made me play AD. I would already play like shit at Silver I level, what's it gonna be at Gold III. XD
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 09 2013 17:22 GMT
#3717
On August 10 2013 01:41 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:14 Slayer91 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:11 Dark_Chill wrote:
Would Sona be a good holder of hybrid pen runes?


better get armour to tank bitches
hybrid pen not bad tho
or just regular mpen is better later anyways

AFAIK, madlife often runs 1-2 Health quints to bulk up, so swapping marks out to penetration isn't as suicidal.


Madlife runs the 1-1-1, since we're taling about SC2. One HP, one AD, one movespeed if I remember correctly (I do more or less the same, except I use a gp5 instead of AD) ;P
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
August 09 2013 17:24 GMT
#3718
On August 10 2013 02:17 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:03 silencefc wrote:
I know I'm late to the whole Smartcast & Dumbcast by a couple pages but, if you have Smartcast on and you hold down the hotkey, the range indicator stays up

It's also how you aim Viktor's laser and Rumble's ult with Smartcasting.


That's only if you have smartcast range indicator on. The exception being laser + rumble ult.


Yeah, but people were talking about leaving Dumbcast on so they can be sure of the range. Don't really need to do that with Smartcast's range indicator.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 09 2013 17:26 GMT
#3719
On August 10 2013 01:34 Don_Julio wrote:
We need "LoL is dieing" threads.

LoL is dying


Exhibit one: long games and no action means spectators don't watch
Exhibit two: lots of patches means people don't have time to make counter strategies. Riot forces new ones on us.
Exhibit three: Riot hosts all the major tournaments

Gg, we should all move to HoN now.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 09 2013 17:42 GMT
#3720
On August 10 2013 01:39 Alaric wrote:
Man, Zed is so boring to lane against mid. He clears super fast and has short enough cooldowns that he can just instaclear the wave and still be able to fight you, contrary to a bunch of mids who use longer cd spells for this. Plus he's energy-based so he has no real mid-term consequences for spamming.
And since you're often a squishy, his W is a threat whenever you come close (compared to top) so even zoning him out outpoking him is rather hard.

That's a different kind of boring from long range clearers like Anivia, TF or Lux, but it's boring as hell nonetheless.


I think I'd replace every boring in your post with frustrating.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
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