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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On August 09 2013 18:41 UniversalSnip wrote: hrungggggggggggggggggggggggggh http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398023 there's no dodge penalty except the time loss Well yeah, in the long run it doesn't matter, but you do get a loss in that series :p | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Why are you being so condescending when nobody has remotely disagreed with you or stated otherwise T.T + Show Spoiler + Does LP mean anything? No. Does the league system mean anything? No. Does losing a series or LP for a dodge mean anything? No. Are we discussing a meaningless points / system? Yes. Its all we can see therefore its what we are talking about. Nobody even slightly mentioned MMR Ok Usnip had a bad day or something. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
Instantly dropping your series so you dont have to put up with such complete cunts is a bit much, its hard to balance such a thing but i think a loss instead of dropping would be better, I mean chances are if you want to dodge your looking at a 99% loss anyway, saves you the time of putting up with idiots. TL;DR - Make dodging count as 1 loss in a series, not instant dropkick to the nuts. It really is a shame we have to be punshed for retards in our team because other people dodge like retards. Never ending circle of hate do you realize that you're not being punished at all? you literally lost nothing. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On August 09 2013 19:07 nyxnyxnyx wrote: If you said the league system doesn't mean anything, why are you complaining about it? the really dippy part isn't that he's interested in what his LP is or his promo series, it's that he has it completely laid out for him and doesn't get how it works. He's complaining about getting kicked out of a promo series for a dodge when that just means he'll get kicked right back into it, wtf is the logic in that? | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Discussing the punishment within the league system = being a retard and not knowing it doesnt effect MMR I was replying to a discussion. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 09 2013 19:07 IMoperator wrote: yo what items are supports supposed to be going for after sight stone. Most of the time a philo>shure or michael's on ranged.I like morelo on zyra/janna and a locket on melees if you get fed. On August 09 2013 19:07 Capped wrote: How do i figure out what champs to use dual pen on? Use dual pen on any champs that rely on autos to harass as well as spells.Like zyra supp/kayle/oriana etc | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On August 09 2013 19:20 Capped wrote: Discussing the league system for leaving = complaining. Discussing the punishment within the league system = being a retard and not knowing it doesnt effect MMR I was replying to a discussion. the league system converges on the elo system so IT JUST CANCELS OUT and even in the league layer you don't see a difference. You get EXACTLY the same league placement and LP after a brief time whether you dodge or not and whether those dodges occurred in a promo or not. You have to deliberately disjoint the two, it's a pain in the ass and even then it doesn't stick for long. You can ditch your promo series all you want, it'll just mean you'll be continually in promos until you pass through. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 09 2013 19:07 Capped wrote: How do i figure out what champs to use dual pen on? Champs that can make use of both. Like akali, annie, jax, etc. Etc | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On August 09 2013 19:26 wei2coolman wrote: Champs that can make use of both. Like akali, annie, jax, etc. Etc Really though, AD Pen Annie is hell, lol You smell like burning! | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 09 2013 19:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Really though, AD Pen Annie is hell, lol You smell like burning! That attack range makes no sense >. < and it's such a slow projectile, so that lil fireball flies soooo far. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On August 09 2013 19:26 UniversalSnip wrote: the league system converges on the elo system so IT JUST CANCELS OUT and even in the league layer you don't see a difference. You get EXACTLY the same league placement and LP after a brief time whether you dodge or not and whether those dodges occurred in a promo or not. You have to deliberately disjoint the two, it's a pain in the ass and even then it doesn't stick for long. You can ditch your promo series all you want, it'll just mean you'll be continually in promos until you pass through. Holy shit, you act like im the stupid one but you dont understand. If i am discussing something that is WITHIN THE LEAGUE SYSTEM it doesnt matter if the system is null, void, pointless, gay straight or bi. Im discussing the system, or something within the system, not the effect the system has on the bigger picture or anything other than the system. Elo and anything else is completely irrelevant because im talking about the league system within a vacuum. Everything you say is completely irrelevant to what i was talking about and you need to get over yourself. When i say i understand something, i fucking understand it. I dont see why you needed to turn it into a huge "LEAGUE SYSTEM IS POINTLESS AND STUPID HURR DURR" when it was nothing to do with it and that topic has been covered OVER. AND OVER. AND OVER again to the point of being extremely fucking annoying. And once again, i was not complaining, i was discussing it with other posters talking about it. (and turns out i was wrong, you get a loss for a promo dodge, not kicked straight out, so it was a pointless post!) Shoot me down now. EDIT: You successfully baited me. GG. | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
On August 09 2013 16:05 JazzVortical wrote: Is there a catch to the quickfind kassadin website? I love being able to watch the featured games from any region. Works really well for me. For Korean players is op.gg a good site: http://op.gg/progamer/pro/ | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On August 09 2013 19:38 Capped wrote: Holy shit, you act like im the stupid one but you dont understand. If i am discussing something that is WITHIN THE LEAGUE SYSTEM it doesnt matter if the system is null, void, pointless, gay straight or bi. Im discussing the system, or something within the system, not the effect the system has on the bigger picture or anything other than the system. Elo and anything else is completely irrelevant because im talking about the league system within a vacuum. Everything you say is completely irrelevant to what i was talking about and you need to get over yourself. When i say i understand something, i fucking understand it. I dont see why you needed to turn it into a huge "LEAGUE SYSTEM IS POINTLESS AND STUPID HURR DURR" when it was nothing to do with it and that topic has been covered OVER. AND OVER. AND OVER again to the point of being extremely fucking annoying. And once again, i was not complaining, i was discussing it with other posters talking about it. (and turns out i was wrong, you get a loss for a promo dodge, not kicked straight out, so it was a pointless post!) Shoot me down now. league system isn't pointless, it's great, unless you're near challenger. Elo and anything else is completely irrelevant because im talking about the league system within a vacuum. the league system doesn't exist in a vacuum. That's a completely fictional concept. You need to look at the combination of actual impact and appearance and how they interact. The fact that people aren't actually punished on the unusual occasions they have a good reason to ditch champ select (they find out they have to leave, bickering escalates into triple jungle, etc) gives you the best of both worlds. Dodges for casual reasons are discouraged through trickery and dodges by necessity actually result in no harm at all. It really, really is ideal. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Im not going to argue anymore because we're in two completely different conversations | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
This was changed four months ago. All of your rage for nothing. http://lol-patch.com/patch-3-6.html -I'd like to add that there was a point LoL at the end of s2 where the elo loss was taken off of rated matches. The dodge timer was upped to 15 or 30 mins for the first dodge. You know what's less fun than playing with ragers who stop raging if you start carrying the game? Sitting a fucking queue for an hour as people play dodge roulette and you have to draft a team over and over and over again. Or sometimes people play dodge roulette and lose with the heimer/s2 eve bot lane. Yeah, having no dodge penalty beyond time was terrible. | ||
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