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No more bad posting
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 11:36 GMT
#3681
The LP penalty being believed in is a good thing, so stop telling people it's not real.

It's totally real you lose 2000 ELO when you dodge!
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 12:03:15
August 09 2013 12:02 GMT
#3682
Yeah i know johnny, that was pointed out after i posted and i mentioned it, Usnip was talking about something completely different

Fucking redpot+3 start man, i tried it twice now and failed. Maybe cos they start cloth+5, this is wu vs morde / darius. Staying with my reguv+4+2+ward and taking trades. Works bettar.
Useless wet fish.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 09 2013 12:04 GMT
#3683
I almost always start redpot+3, but if their jungler has half a braincell this usually results in him camping the shit out of me because they know I have no ward.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 09 2013 12:54 GMT
#3684
dont feel bad about dodging promos

same as other games, except you gotta win 2

all cosmetic
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
August 09 2013 13:04 GMT
#3685
reju start top is better than fort pot unless you're confident that your stomping shoes are tied nice and tight

fort pot is pretty safe as a standard opening on some mids though (zed)
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
August 09 2013 13:15 GMT
#3686
Following Dyrus ive just went full HPregen top vs a slow dpser (shen), great great fun. Never die, never do damage
KCCO!
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
August 09 2013 14:31 GMT
#3687
On August 09 2013 19:26 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 19:20 Capped wrote:
Discussing the league system for leaving = complaining.

Discussing the punishment within the league system = being a retard and not knowing it doesnt effect MMR

I was replying to a discussion.


the league system converges on the elo system so IT JUST CANCELS OUT and even in the league layer you don't see a difference. You get EXACTLY the same league placement and LP after a brief time whether you dodge or not and whether those dodges occurred in a promo or not. You have to deliberately disjoint the two, it's a pain in the ass and even then it doesn't stick for long. You can ditch your promo series all you want, it'll just mean you'll be continually in promos until you pass through.


This is not always true. I got on a large win streak in Gold I and barely promoted into Plat V, immediately after I went on a large loss streak to cancel out the previous streak. Now my mmr is firmly in mid gold but I'm in Plat. I might easily not have been promoted if I dodged a game. mmr at any give time is not a perfect indicator of present skill, so get off your high horse.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
August 09 2013 14:40 GMT
#3688
the high horse dismount would be a fatal fall for a few egos

like when i found out lolking score grossly misrepresents actual elo
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 09 2013 14:41 GMT
#3689
up to a point when diamond 1 0 points is like 2400 and challenger is like 2450 lolol
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 09 2013 14:55 GMT
#3690
No SC2 at MLG Columbus? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424509

Even though I don't play SC2 anymore it still makes me sad ;_;
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 09 2013 15:20 GMT
#3691
--- Nuked ---
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 15:22:58
August 09 2013 15:21 GMT
#3692
On August 09 2013 23:55 thenexusp wrote:
No SC2 at MLG Columbus? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424509

Even though I don't play SC2 anymore it still makes me sad ;_;


The post by InControl that's quoted there basically sums up the difference between Riots community management and Blizzards in one statement.

MLG has to pay Blizzard to host SC2 at their event. Riot pays MLG to host LoL at their event.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Wrag
Profile Joined February 2012
France124 Posts
August 09 2013 15:34 GMT
#3693
On August 10 2013 00:20 JimmiC wrote:
I've always thought there should be a way to report in pregame, or boot or something. Because so many people get away with being such dicks because often some one else dodges, no penalty to them, time or otherwise. Or after the 20-60 mins people figure its noth worth reporting or whatever.

I wish lol had some mechanism for dealing with the pregame BS.


There's nothing you can do yourself, but Riot monitors players who have abnormal rates of team mates dodging their games; They banned a number of people when they started this (with announcement etc.) No idea if it is still going.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 09 2013 15:35 GMT
#3694
On August 09 2013 23:55 thenexusp wrote:
No SC2 at MLG Columbus? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424509

Even though I don't play SC2 anymore it still makes me sad ;_;

Well, the game is pretty old (3 years) and doesn't really deserve to live much longer.

I loved it at the beginning, but Blizzard inability to change any of the toxic gameplay patterns in the game killed it. There's a reason why LoL is way more popular than SC2 in Korea, even though SC2 got way more communication and marketing.
The legend of Darien lives on
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 15:45:40
August 09 2013 15:42 GMT
#3695
I dunno about sc2 getting more marketing. Riot marketed League incredibly well using one avenue that really matters in Korea - PC Bangs - which Blizzard royally screwed up with WOL and didn't fix until HOTS.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:00:32
August 09 2013 15:47 GMT
#3696
On August 10 2013 00:35 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 23:55 thenexusp wrote:
No SC2 at MLG Columbus? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424509

Even though I don't play SC2 anymore it still makes me sad ;_;

Well, the game is pretty old (3 years) and doesn't really deserve to live much longer.

I loved it at the beginning, but Blizzard inability to change any of the toxic gameplay patterns in the game killed it. There's a reason why LoL is way more popular than SC2 in Korea, even though SC2 got way more communication and marketing.


to my knowledge, tepid pc bang adoption is what hamstrung sc2, not subjective perceptions of toxic gameplay patterns. frankly, suggesting that game balance was the cause of sc2's decline over this much bigger issue seems like just taking cheap potshots

marketing (any numbers on this, by the way?) a game is of secondary concern when a big part of the core demographic does most of its gaming at venues that don't carry the product
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 09 2013 15:51 GMT
#3697
Is it a bold blaim if I say that, had BLizzard not entirely fucked up sc2 and made the access to the game as easy as in Broodwar for PC bangs, Riot and League would still have ended up where it is today?
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
August 09 2013 15:52 GMT
#3698
About the league system, what I hate about it is how random it is.. I get anywhere between +2 and +8 at around 50 lp diamond 1 and it doesn't seem to correspond to anything.. I literally get +8 one game +2 the next... same with lost points. It just makes it so weird to play since some games matter 4x as much as others but you have no idea which ones.\

Also, blah bla blah mmr is everything thing etc etc, still makes the system stupid.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:01:33
August 09 2013 16:00 GMT
#3699
On August 10 2013 00:51 AsnSensation wrote:
Is it a bold blaim if I say that, had BLizzard not entirely fucked up sc2 and made the access to the game as easy as in Broodwar for PC bangs, Riot and League would still have ended up where it is today?

In NA/EU? League would have gotten where it is anyway. Quite frankly, anywhere outside of Korea, League wasn't taking that much away from SC2, given how big League is now regardless.

Requizen said it before, and I think this was a rather keen realization--what League really came in at the right time for was the explosive growth of streaming as a media platform for games. It came in at the right time and found and audience on Own3d/Twitch that really did a lot to expand the player base and build that unique streaming subculture that no other game yet has been able to duplicate.

The only place where this is questionable is in Korea, where League probably did jump in to fill the BW gap.
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 09 2013 16:05 GMT
#3700
On August 10 2013 00:47 Clinic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 00:35 mr_tolkien wrote:
On August 09 2013 23:55 thenexusp wrote:
No SC2 at MLG Columbus? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424509

Even though I don't play SC2 anymore it still makes me sad ;_;

Well, the game is pretty old (3 years) and doesn't really deserve to live much longer.

I loved it at the beginning, but Blizzard inability to change any of the toxic gameplay patterns in the game killed it. There's a reason why LoL is way more popular than SC2 in Korea, even though SC2 got way more communication and marketing.


to my knowledge, tepid pc bang adoption is what hamstrung sc2, not subjective perceptions of toxic gameplay patterns. frankly, suggesting that game balance was the cause of sc2's decline over this much bigger issue seems like just taking cheap potshots

marketing (any numbers on this, by the way?) a game is of secondary concern when a big part of the core demographic does most of its gaming at venues that don't carry the product

Oh no not balance. I really speak of terrible gameplay patterns. 2 out of 3 races have instant spells that forbid all micro : force field and fungal growth.

I don't wanna turn this into an SC2 bashing and will stop there, but honestly, the game had it's run, a pretty long one given the quality of the game, so it's not sad by any means. It stayed at one of the most popular e-sport for 3 years, that's already a pretty good feat.
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