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TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
August 09 2013 06:44 GMT
#3641
On August 09 2013 15:31 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 12:52 TheLink wrote:
Support was defined as having an ability that helps an ally, nothing to do with gold. Don't know on these new updates.


So, if Zyra is a support, that means that CC also counts. Which makes the only champion who is NOT a support Master Yi.


Seeds for vision? Bit of a stretch.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 09 2013 06:57 GMT
#3642
On August 09 2013 15:31 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 12:52 TheLink wrote:
Support was defined as having an ability that helps an ally, nothing to do with gold. Don't know on these new updates.


So, if Zyra is a support, that means that CC also counts. Which makes the only champion who is NOT a support Master Yi.


Partially. Like in Riot's view leblanc, while having *some* cc isn't an actual "support" even though people have played "support leblanc" before. Zyra mainly was redefined as a support due to how strong support zyra has become through the community, so proved that she actually works.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 07:10:20
August 09 2013 07:05 GMT
#3643
Is there a catch to the quickfind kassadin website? I love being able to watch the featured games from any region. Works really well for me.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 09 2013 07:09 GMT
#3644
On August 09 2013 16:05 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 15:31 Simberto wrote:
On August 09 2013 12:52 TheLink wrote:
Support was defined as having an ability that helps an ally, nothing to do with gold. Don't know on these new updates.


So, if Zyra is a support, that means that CC also counts. Which makes the only champion who is NOT a support Master Yi.



What about Mordekaiser?

Yi and Morde are both supports. After all, death is the best CC in the game
It's your boy Guzma!
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 09 2013 07:11 GMT
#3645
On August 09 2013 16:09 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 16:05 JazzVortical wrote:
On August 09 2013 15:31 Simberto wrote:
On August 09 2013 12:52 TheLink wrote:
Support was defined as having an ability that helps an ally, nothing to do with gold. Don't know on these new updates.


So, if Zyra is a support, that means that CC also counts. Which makes the only champion who is NOT a support Master Yi.



What about Mordekaiser?

Yi and Morde are both supports. After all, death is the best CC in the game


Morde can put his shield on allies right? I guess that is a 'support' ability.
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
August 09 2013 07:27 GMT
#3646
So, Im one game away from a promo series. I que up, get in the lobby, and immediately the one guy is being very aggressive (ADC or Feed), and another guy is being equally aggressive and he was going to pick ADC before the other guy. Normally, I don't really care that much, but since I'm one game away, I thought I'd dodge. When i go to dodge, I get a message that I will lose LP if I dodge and will lose a placement game if I"m in a series ( I never dodge, so this was new, I just knew you got a time penalty in normals)

Why do you get penalties this severe for dodging in ranked? I realize you can't have NO penalty, which is why they give you a time penalty. However, If I want to avoid people who are being toxic before the game even starts, why should I be punished even further than not being able to play a game for a few minutes? I was really sad when I saw that warning screen
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 09 2013 07:36 GMT
#3647
Because if the penalty isn't severe people would just constantly dodge promo games until they get exactly the team comp/position they want.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 09 2013 07:40 GMT
#3648
there's no dodge penalty in ranked, it's a fakeout, just do it
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 09 2013 07:42 GMT
#3649
LOL
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
August 09 2013 08:23 GMT
#3650
On August 09 2013 16:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
Because if the penalty isn't severe people would just constantly dodge promo games until they get exactly the team comp/position they want.


They already have the time penalty (which scales, I believe; starts at 5, goes up to over an hour); That's a pretty big deterrent to just dodge every time you don't get the exact position you want unless you have unlimited time to waste to get a perfect scenario. There should be a way to get out of a game where people are being toxic before that game even starts without losing LP imo.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 08:33:16
August 09 2013 08:32 GMT
#3651
On August 09 2013 17:23 Arisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 16:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
Because if the penalty isn't severe people would just constantly dodge promo games until they get exactly the team comp/position they want.


They already have the time penalty (which scales, I believe; starts at 5, goes up to over an hour); That's a pretty big deterrent to just dodge every time you don't get the exact position you want unless you have unlimited time to waste to get a perfect scenario. There should be a way to get out of a game where people are being toxic before that game even starts without losing LP imo.

You can bet that people will be more willing to take the time penalty than losing LP or instantly stopping their series. Especially considering the first dodge is only like what? 5 min?

It's not about stopping the same person from repeatedly dodging. It's from stopping a lot of people dodging to get that perfect comp/pick. In higher Elos, it can easily take 5+ minutes to find a game. Imagine if out of the 10 people playing, every single one of them dodged once.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 09 2013 08:32 GMT
#3652
It's always weird when I stop playing Ori for a bit then pick her up again. I always question why I ever stop. Her versatility and teamfighting is just absolutely bonkers. Arguably too good, but too hard to nerf w/o making her bad so she just gets to sit around as a staple.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
August 09 2013 08:53 GMT
#3653
There is word going around that Bischu might join Team Alienware, Garimto's team after the team's unfortunate incident. Also something about Cornsalad and DoSoo, but thats most likely the korean chat trolling on garimto's stream.
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
August 09 2013 09:05 GMT
#3654
On August 09 2013 17:53 UnKooL wrote:
There is word going around that Bischu might join Team Alienware, Garimto's team after the team's unfortunate incident. Also something about Cornsalad and DoSoo, but thats most likely the korean chat trolling on garimto's stream.


What incident?
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
August 09 2013 09:31 GMT
#3655
I really wish support wasnt so damn boring, because it's by far my best role T_T
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 09 2013 09:35 GMT
#3656
singed and shaco and gangplank make games so much more interesting
those guys need to be picked in every game
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 09:38:08
August 09 2013 09:35 GMT
#3657
I think a dodge in a series should just count as a loss, not drop you out of your series instantly. I mean, yesterday i had one fucktarded team in champ select, i dodged, lost 3 LP. Not fair but meh, its 3 LP so i dont have to sit through 20-30 mins of "Fuck you Jewtard" - Worth it.

Instantly dropping your series so you dont have to put up with such complete cunts is a bit much, its hard to balance such a thing but i think a loss instead of dropping would be better, I mean chances are if you want to dodge your looking at a 99% loss anyway, saves you the time of putting up with idiots.

TL;DR - Make dodging count as 1 loss in a series, not instant dropkick to the nuts.

It really is a shame we have to be punshed for retards in our team because other people dodge like retards. Never ending circle of hate

Also, wtf is my new icon? so awesome.

EDIT: If you find support boring your doing it wrong.
Useless wet fish.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 09 2013 09:39 GMT
#3658
Uh, I think that is how it works now. Dodging is just a loss, series or not.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 09 2013 09:41 GMT
#3659
hrungggggggggggggggggggggggggh

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398023

there's no dodge penalty except the time loss
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 09:54:03
August 09 2013 09:53 GMT
#3660
I lost 3lp yesterday. In regards to the league system, thats a loss.

Nobody is talking about MMR and we all know this already.
Useless wet fish.
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