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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 16:06:52
July 15 2013 16:06 GMT
#1741
The difference between no assists and 1 assist is actually a very significant difference, because assist gold is "wasted" on a solo kill.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 15 2013 16:08 GMT
#1742
I was actually envisioning if 1 or 3 people get assists but in that situation yeah.It's very rare for you to not get one in a 2v1 or 2v2 though.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
July 15 2013 16:12 GMT
#1743
It happens in first blood a lot though. Jungler comes, and the other guy chooses to give up the kill to only 1 person by running into the turret, even though the jungle presence was the reason for the kill.
Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
July 15 2013 16:12 GMT
#1744
I like the current system because there's an emphasis on controlling whether you get the assist or not (instead of just being around when the guy dies)

This allows skill to come into play when choosing to split the assist gold with your teammate or not.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 16:14:19
July 15 2013 16:14 GMT
#1745
you guys are putting a lot of implicit significance on being somewhere around when a kill took place
Bronze player stuck in platinum
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 15 2013 16:15 GMT
#1746
On July 16 2013 01:12 Sandster wrote:
It happens in first blood a lot though. Jungler comes, and the other guy chooses to give up the kill to only 1 person by running into the turret, even though the jungle presence was the reason for the kill.


That's a good though.The jungler still gets the xp and pushes the wave so it isn't a complete waste for him and the other person does a smart play.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
July 15 2013 16:17 GMT
#1747
On July 16 2013 01:15 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 01:12 Sandster wrote:
It happens in first blood a lot though. Jungler comes, and the other guy chooses to give up the kill to only 1 person by running into the turret, even though the jungle presence was the reason for the kill.


That's a good though.The jungler still gets the xp and pushes the wave so it isn't a complete waste for him and the other person does a smart play.


I wasn't complaining, just pointing out that your example happens fairly frequently.

There are way bigger problems in the game than how assists are calculated. For example I'm glad they're changing the death streak gold.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 16:37:19
July 15 2013 16:36 GMT
#1748
On July 16 2013 00:12 Lylat wrote:
Do you guys think Riot are going to nerf Doran blade ?
Because more and more junglers are starting to buy it 1st, and we all know what Riot do to things not working their way.

if anything they should buff machete, some life steal/on hit on it would be nice
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
July 15 2013 16:37 GMT
#1749
isn't getting multi-man assists bad because it resets your feedbar while not actually giving your team any more gold?
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 16:54:08
July 15 2013 16:50 GMT
#1750
I feel like if you use an active skill that heals or shields yourself, and then after that take damage from the enemy champion within a short period of time (lets say two seconds), and then that enemy champion dies, you should get an assist even if you don't damage them, because if you used that heal/shield skill on an ally who damaged them, regardless of whether or not the ally took any damage, you would get an assist.

Here's an example. I'm Soraka in bottom lane and I'm being tower dived. I'm low and my ADC is at full health. The jungler tower diving me is a moron and going to get killed by my adc.

If I heal my ADC I get an assist, even though he's at full health and not getting attacked. If I heal myself I don't get an assist, even though I'm low health and getting attacked. That's kind of counterintuitive and silly. It's worth noting that some things (Anivia Egg) are specifically coded to grant assists in this exact situation.

The only real problem I can see with that is it would create weird situations in tower dives where your tower gets the kill but you get the assist off that, which might not be doable with current code no clue. I know with Anivia the egg just gives you the kill for it even if you never damage them and the tower does all the work.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 15 2013 17:22 GMT
#1751
On July 16 2013 01:37 Kupon3ss wrote:
isn't getting multi-man assists bad because it resets your feedbar while not actually giving your team any more gold?

Yeah, it seems like any assist beyond the first is not really beneficial at all, other than the morale factor of padding peoples' scores.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 17:29:56
July 15 2013 17:29 GMT
#1752
how long till aatrox becomes fotm? dyrius is already raging on his stream how dumb is aatrox with life steal quints
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
July 15 2013 17:30 GMT
#1753
On July 16 2013 02:22 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 01:37 Kupon3ss wrote:
isn't getting multi-man assists bad because it resets your feedbar while not actually giving your team any more gold?

Yeah, it seems like any assist beyond the first is not really beneficial at all, other than the morale factor of padding peoples' scores.

Tristana, Kat, et al care a lot about those extra assists
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 15 2013 17:35 GMT
#1754
On July 16 2013 02:29 kongoline wrote:
how long till aatrox becomes fotm? dyrius is already raging on his stream how dumb is aatrox with life steal quints

Guess that's their que :p I personally have yet to meet a strong aatrox.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
July 15 2013 17:59 GMT
#1755
haha, just watches a graves/annie lane crush thresh/caitlyn. that shit was hilarious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 15 2013 17:59 GMT
#1756
I thought it was funny how Darien did BT>Bulwark>BT on Aatrox. Its like Genga told him how awesome double BT is on Miss Fortune.
Freeeeeeedom
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 15 2013 18:01 GMT
#1757
He'd go double bt on varus ashe too if they didn't go oom.At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he went for tear on mf if he picked her lol.
Klonopin
Profile Joined July 2013
95 Posts
July 15 2013 18:12 GMT
#1758
On July 16 2013 00:24 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 23:48 Sandster wrote:
On July 15 2013 13:45 Requizen wrote:
4 games in a row (6 if you count Friday) where I am the only person in my team who is at least halfway competent. And demoted. And getting bitched at by people who literally watch the enemy team walk into a bush and then proceed to facecheck it, because I didn't gank for them. People who are physically and mentally too stupid to keep from throwing a game.

Why even bother playing if this is the community


I just had 10 game losing streak in ranked. I went from ~gold 2 MMR to silver/gold. That shit happens, sometimes you get stuck with really really fucking bad teammates or d/c's. And duo queues that have no idea what they're doing is the bane of solo queue. If you really think you're better than the other 9 players in the game, as jungle/support you have to babysit your lanes quite a bit and ping everything for them, and if you're a solo lane then you better crush your lane while dealing with jungle pressure yourself.

But yeah, in the end if it bothers you that much then the game isn't for you. Only way to avoid retards/trolls is by playing single player games, or 1v1 games and muting the other guy. You need to spend SO much time playing this game to improve that if you're not having fun, it's not worth it.

The game itself is fun. People, on a whole (not just in LoL), are shitty, horrible ingrates that make me as homicidal as I am self depressive, and it's compounded thanks to the anonymity and brief connection of a League match.

Since I'm obviously never going to improve my skill or rank, and because I'm probably never going to get hired by Riot, there's really no reason for me to even play this thing anymore since all it's done for me is made me add new holes in my wall.

The thing about jungling is that you can get blamed a lot but you have to realize that its not all your fault. In a recent game I played hecarim and had ori mid on my team. At level 5 the enemy lux had poked ori down to 1/3 health and I pinged ori to go back to base. She didn't listen and at 6 lux killed her. The lane snowballed and it was my fault, of course, for not ganking and winning the lane for ori.

Knowledge is very important to doing well at LoL. I KNEW that lux would kill ori at 6. The ori obviously didn't understand the situation she was in. You can't reach through the internet and make people do things, all you can do is do the best in your role and on your champ. If you lose, then so be it. I've stopped taking it so personally. There are a lot of bad people that play this game.

I played hots since it came out, and came back to LoL about three weeks ago. I've gone from bronze5 to silver1 in that time. Improving is not impossible, and moving up the ranks seems much easier then it did in season 2.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 15 2013 18:30 GMT
#1759
Why are there so many Katarina skin sales lately? lol
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 15 2013 18:38 GMT
#1760
On July 16 2013 03:30 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Why are there so many Katarina skin sales lately? lol


Probably trying to make people who didn't get Christmas Kat feel better about their mistake.
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