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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 15 2013 10:27 GMT
#1701
Fizz is pretty popular, but I'm glad not many people do the incarnati0n 30-0-0 pure fuck-your-day-up fizz build anymore. Being all-in'd and killed level 2 is pretty damn frustrating xD
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 10:31:07
July 15 2013 10:30 GMT
#1702
It went badly, i dont mid often and i just dont know how to play vs assassin's. Anyone willing to post/PM me a crash course in laning vs them? :D
Useless wet fish.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 15 2013 10:35 GMT
#1703
On July 15 2013 19:30 Capped wrote:
It went badly, i dont mid often and i just dont know how to play vs assassin's. Anyone willing to post/PM me a crash course in laning vs them? :D

Play like a pussy; and abuse them when they use their cooldown.
So if you see Fizz use his E to clear a wave of farm; or try and push. You have 8-10 seconds of safe farming, or abuse time.
Barrier pick up as a summoner isn't a bad idea as well.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 15 2013 10:47 GMT
#1704
On July 15 2013 19:30 Capped wrote:
It went badly, i dont mid often and i just dont know how to play vs assassin's. Anyone willing to post/PM me a crash course in laning vs them? :D


You need to be more specific as to which "assassin" you are talking about.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 10:52:09
July 15 2013 10:48 GMT
#1705
On July 15 2013 19:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 19:30 Capped wrote:
It went badly, i dont mid often and i just dont know how to play vs assassin's. Anyone willing to post/PM me a crash course in laning vs them? :D

Play like a pussy; and abuse them when they use their cooldown.
So if you see Fizz use his E to clear a wave of farm; or try and push. You have 8-10 seconds of safe farming, or abuse time.
Barrier pick up as a summoner isn't a bad idea as well.

Safe farming ? Dafuk is this.

You have 8-10s to KILL THE FUCKER.

EDIT :
So, now that I'm Diamond I... I don't have the motivation to play ranked anymore :o
Challenger is so far away it's not even fun, and battling for LP when you can't even see your rank is not exactly motivating...

I think Riot should introduce some pre-challenger league, which would be the equivalent of todays Diamond I, and in which you could see your real ranking !
The legend of Darien lives on
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 10:52:02
July 15 2013 10:51 GMT
#1706
EDIT : OOPS DOUBLE POST
The legend of Darien lives on
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 15 2013 11:51 GMT
#1707
Did Riot explain why they removed Bulwark ?
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 15 2013 11:51 GMT
#1708
ya i really miss elo =[
GANDHISAUCE
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 15 2013 11:51 GMT
#1709
On July 15 2013 19:27 IMoperator wrote:
Fizz is pretty popular, but I'm glad not many people do the incarnati0n 30-0-0 pure fuck-your-day-up fizz build anymore. Being all-in'd and killed level 2 is pretty damn frustrating xD

Am I really the only one who still runs 30-0-0 Fizz with dual pen runes? I feel like there's no stronger way to play him even if your early game is a bit polarized...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 15 2013 11:52 GMT
#1710
On July 15 2013 15:57 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 15:47 Seuss wrote:
On July 15 2013 13:52 Requizen wrote:
On July 15 2013 13:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On July 15 2013 13:45 Requizen wrote:
4 games in a row (6 if you count Friday) where I am the only person in my team who is at least halfway competent. And demoted. And getting bitched at by people who literally watch the enemy team walk into a bush and then proceed to facecheck it, because I didn't gank for them. People who are physically and mentally too stupid to keep from throwing a game.

Why even bother playing if this is the community


So where to go from here? Dota 2? FPS? FGC? SC2?

I'd say outside of SC2, most other communities have a lot of bad apples.

Playing solo games, haven't finished Last of Us or Metal Gear Rising. Have Smite too, add me on there (Requizen), even while leveling the retards have been few and far between.


Ignorance is bliss.

+ Show Spoiler +
No, seriously. The number of retards you see in a competitive game is directly proportional to how good you are at the game. Actually understanding a game is like being the only person who can see at a lightbulb convention.

Or how much you fail to recognize your own mistakes and pin those on others.

Be honest though Shake, there are a lot of retards out there.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
July 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1711
On July 15 2013 20:51 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 19:27 IMoperator wrote:
Fizz is pretty popular, but I'm glad not many people do the incarnati0n 30-0-0 pure fuck-your-day-up fizz build anymore. Being all-in'd and killed level 2 is pretty damn frustrating xD

Am I really the only one who still runs 30-0-0 Fizz with dual pen runes? I feel like there's no stronger way to play him even if your early game is a bit polarized...


And then you get level 2 ganked.
Hey! How you doin'?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1712
On July 15 2013 20:52 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 15:57 HazMat wrote:
On July 15 2013 15:47 Seuss wrote:
On July 15 2013 13:52 Requizen wrote:
On July 15 2013 13:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On July 15 2013 13:45 Requizen wrote:
4 games in a row (6 if you count Friday) where I am the only person in my team who is at least halfway competent. And demoted. And getting bitched at by people who literally watch the enemy team walk into a bush and then proceed to facecheck it, because I didn't gank for them. People who are physically and mentally too stupid to keep from throwing a game.

Why even bother playing if this is the community


So where to go from here? Dota 2? FPS? FGC? SC2?

I'd say outside of SC2, most other communities have a lot of bad apples.

Playing solo games, haven't finished Last of Us or Metal Gear Rising. Have Smite too, add me on there (Requizen), even while leveling the retards have been few and far between.


Ignorance is bliss.

+ Show Spoiler +
No, seriously. The number of retards you see in a competitive game is directly proportional to how good you are at the game. Actually understanding a game is like being the only person who can see at a lightbulb convention.

Or how much you fail to recognize your own mistakes and pin those on others.

Be honest though Shake, there are a lot of retards out there.

Chances are if they play with you they're as retarded as you :D

That's the spirit you need to have for soloQ.
The legend of Darien lives on
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 14:23:40
July 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1713
On July 15 2013 14:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 14:30 kainzero wrote:
On July 15 2013 14:07 Requizen wrote:
Fighting games suck

Ya'll talking about patch cycles...

Fighting games patch cycle is like 3 years... if you're lucky.

Fireballs are the new ward kills.

SOUL FIST

+ Show Spoiler [And I mean, really, it's a spoil…] +
Seeing Wong do all these comebacks really embedded "clutch" as the name of the finals, however since I don't follow the FG scene at all I didn't know what were the odds with Flocker and was rooting for him as the underdog against the heavy favourite (crowd's too) champion. Plus it let me use a private along the lines of "Morrigan's got avenged!".

KoF finals were so hype too.
+ Show Spoiler +
Dem "USA USA USA" shouts for the Mexican winner.

(Speaking of which, woulda been nice if people didn't get the results of EVO spoiled in the TL LoL threads. >.> Looking at you, whoever threw SF4's winner in a one-liner in plain sight.)

On July 15 2013 16:10 Ketara wrote:
There are matchups where following the roamer is incredibly dangerous because they can turn around and just kill you if they know you're chasing them. You can't know exactly where they're going 100% of the time. You can't be in a good position to follow them 100% of the time.

#1 reason I want blue when I play Viktor against Lux.
It goes from ending up oom after a few waves of forcing Lux to use her mana to clear rather than try to kill me at 1300 range, to shoving the wave and roaming elsewhere so I don't have to deal with her and her boring "I'll pussy out 3m behind my tower and still miss no cs" style for 15 minutes.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 15 2013 13:55 GMT
#1714
On July 15 2013 19:27 IMoperator wrote:
Fizz is pretty popular, but I'm glad not many people do the incarnati0n 30-0-0 pure fuck-your-day-up fizz build anymore. Being all-in'd and killed level 2 is pretty damn frustrating xD

its not that popular because red pot got nerfed
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
July 15 2013 14:03 GMT
#1715
On July 15 2013 22:55 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 19:27 IMoperator wrote:
Fizz is pretty popular, but I'm glad not many people do the incarnati0n 30-0-0 pure fuck-your-day-up fizz build anymore. Being all-in'd and killed level 2 is pretty damn frustrating xD

its not that popular because red pot got nerfed


You could argue it's just as strong now though, because with red pot being nerfed you'll likely never go vs another red pot, and the counter to all ins is obviously more health.
Hey! How you doin'?
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
July 15 2013 14:18 GMT
#1716
Turns out that if all the damage the enemy you're diving does to you is absorbed by barrier, when you get killed by tower it'll be an execute and they won't get the kill.

For example, if I dive ashe as graves, hit barrier, and she volleys me before dying, then if I die to tower, she won't get credit/gold for the kill.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
July 15 2013 14:19 GMT
#1717
On July 15 2013 23:18 Vanka wrote:
Turns out that if all the damage the enemy you're diving does to you is absorbed by barrier, when you get killed by tower it'll be an execute and they won't get the kill.

For example, if I dive ashe as graves, hit barrier, and she volleys me before dying, then if I die to tower, she won't get credit/gold for the kill.

Yeah, damaging only shields (or only popping a spell shield) never counts for an assist.
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
July 15 2013 14:29 GMT
#1718
On July 15 2013 23:19 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 23:18 Vanka wrote:
Turns out that if all the damage the enemy you're diving does to you is absorbed by barrier, when you get killed by tower it'll be an execute and they won't get the kill.

For example, if I dive ashe as graves, hit barrier, and she volleys me before dying, then if I die to tower, she won't get credit/gold for the kill.

Yeah, damaging only shields (or only popping a spell shield) never counts for an assist.


This has been your PSA for all of you the next time you dive someone as AP janna.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 14:33:51
July 15 2013 14:32 GMT
#1719
On July 15 2013 23:18 Vanka wrote:
Turns out that if all the damage the enemy you're diving does to you is absorbed by barrier, when you get killed by tower it'll be an execute and they won't get the kill.

For example, if I dive ashe as graves, hit barrier, and she volleys me before dying, then if I die to tower, she won't get credit/gold for the kill.


What's even sillier is if you shield yourself you don't get an assist but if you shield somebody else you do.

For example, if I'm playing Lux and all I do is shield myself from a gank and run away, and my jungler jumps in and gets the kill, I don't get an assist, but if my shield also shields my jungler I do get an assist, even if my jungler took no damage.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 15 2013 14:39 GMT
#1720
On July 15 2013 23:32 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 23:18 Vanka wrote:
Turns out that if all the damage the enemy you're diving does to you is absorbed by barrier, when you get killed by tower it'll be an execute and they won't get the kill.

For example, if I dive ashe as graves, hit barrier, and she volleys me before dying, then if I die to tower, she won't get credit/gold for the kill.


What's even sillier is if you shield yourself you don't get an assist but if you shield somebody else you do.

For example, if I'm playing Lux and all I do is shield myself from a gank and run away, and my jungler jumps in and gets the kill, I don't get an assist, but if my shield also shields my jungler I do get an assist, even if my jungler took no damage.

That makes total sense with how assists work though. The only way it tracks assists for heals/shields is by whether you healed/shielded someone else who did damage on the kill.

Otherwise wouldn't everyone get an assist for their own death due to natural HP regeneration?
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