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On July 23 2013 19:50 XilDarkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:48 Numy wrote:
Why are you still responding? Someone that asks for advice then spits it back in your face is someone you just don't give advice too. Show me where I have done anything but attempt to discuss (General Discussion) and learn from the advice here? I learn through discourse personally..
It's kind of funny you think so highly of yourself. I mean plenty of us here came from other games and were good at those games yet instead of taking advice given you keep arguing while having basically no knowledge of LoL. I came from Dota too, in fact pretty high up there in EU and have similar games played but a vastly different "ranking". Whoever told you to "not think" either told you terrible advice or you completely misunderstood it. Reviewing your mistakes and putting preparation into your sessions is the basics of any training.
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On July 23 2013 19:50 XilDarkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:49 Kupon3ss wrote:On July 23 2013 19:43 ItsFunToLose wrote:On July 23 2013 19:23 XilDarkz wrote:On July 23 2013 19:22 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
Lol...just the fact that you think Syndra of all champions has a "5 person stun" is ridiculous. That's like saying antimage has a "5 person stun" in DotA. It affects a cone that is bigger than any single ability in dota... I think Syndra is ridiculous and thats why I play her. now we know you're trolling. show yourself out. thanks. to be fair, the stun is about the size of MF's ult Thank you! MF's ulti is bigger than any ulti in Dota.
I question if you ever played dota. The instant answer that comes to mind is tidehunter ulti and for a normal spell you have illuminate.
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On July 23 2013 19:56 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:54 XilDarkz wrote:On July 23 2013 19:51 wei2coolman wrote:On July 23 2013 19:50 XilDarkz wrote:On July 23 2013 19:49 Kupon3ss wrote:On July 23 2013 19:43 ItsFunToLose wrote:On July 23 2013 19:23 XilDarkz wrote:On July 23 2013 19:22 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
Lol...just the fact that you think Syndra of all champions has a "5 person stun" is ridiculous. That's like saying antimage has a "5 person stun" in DotA. It affects a cone that is bigger than any single ability in dota... I think Syndra is ridiculous and thats why I play her. now we know you're trolling. show yourself out. thanks. to be fair, the stun is about the size of MF's ult Thank you! MF's ulti is bigger than any ulti in Dota. Only if set up like 10 seconds in advance; also the fact it knocksback can often be more troublesome than helpful. With my mana, I spam orbs in the 7orb sequence before any fight (for example, while sieging a tower); this sets me up for stuns and big ultimates. I don't ever have trouble getting 3-4 with a stun, which is ridiculous in dota terms. 7 orbs; with 2.4 second cooldown on Q; that's 16.8 sec of set up time.
you start with 3... after 2.4s you have 2 out, after 4.8 you have 3, after 7.2 you have 4
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I think I'm the only person that hates having Janna as my support. Absolutely 0 lane presence. Idc about not getting ganked, if you ward and play smart the enemy jungler cant do anything anyway. Every janna I've played with just sits behind me and shields me once in a while. I'd rather have a sona or lulu any day of the week.
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Ok....I see you've ignored all my posts explaining why you're wrong and you'll probably ignore this one too but I will summarize...
You're wrong because:
1) Your views on solo queue are wrong. Solo queue is an important learning ground and "showcase" so to speak. If you perform well in solo queue you may get noticed and picked up by a team.
2) Your idea that you only learn by being the "worst person on the team" is completely incorrect. You learn from losing. If you lose, it does not matter if you performed "the best" or "the worst", you lost. Figure out why.
3) The lack of voice chat in solo queue does not mean you cannot have coordination. No one has voice chat in solo queue, does that mean that there is no coordination? Of course the level of coordination is going to be weaker than in pro games, but that doesn't mean it is nonexistent. On the other end of the spectrum, I've played plenty of solo queue games where I literally did not say a single word in champion select or the entirety of the game and communicated just fine, solely through pings.
4) Bringing up mechanical skill is a pile of horseshit. Having "good mechanics" is relavent only to a point (in LoL OR DotA). Understanding lane matchups, champion power curves, build paths, jungle timings, game flow, gold/item disparities, relative advantage/disadvantages, etc are all far more important and contribute/synergize with mechanical skill. In BW having "good mechanics" was extremely important. It didn't matter if you had all the game knowledge in the world if you couldn't properly control your units or react quickly and efficiently. It is less important (relatively) in SC2. In MOBAs where you are controlling <5 units at MOST, "good mechanics" is going to comprise MAYBE 10% of what makes a good player.
5) There are no inhouse leagues because there is a viable ladder system in which to measure your skill (*shots fired Valve...). There even happens to be a 5v5 ladder. If you bothered to look up any of the 23847234 resources (reddit/TL/official forums/all the major guide sites forums') I'm sure you could have found an appropriate team for a silver II player (obviously not diamond/challenger).
6) And the whole trash attitude thing, which I won't bother rehashing.
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On July 23 2013 20:06 IMoperator wrote:
I think I'm the only person that hates having Janna as my support. Absolutely 0 lane presence. Idc about not getting ganked, if you ward and play smart the enemy jungler cant do anything anyway. Every janna I've played with just sits behind me and shields me once in a while. I'd rather have a sona or lulu any day of the week.
Isn't that what Janna is supposed to do?
If your support is a Janna you want to be an ADC who makes her own plays like Caitlyn, or somebody who is comfortable never making plays like Kogmaw, or somebody who does both (Vayne fuck Vayne)
And just be confident that once you do something she will follow you up.
That's how I play Janna anyway, is that the wrong way to do it?
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On July 23 2013 19:59 XilDarkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:56 wei2coolman wrote:On July 23 2013 19:54 XilDarkz wrote:On July 23 2013 19:51 wei2coolman wrote:On July 23 2013 19:50 XilDarkz wrote:On July 23 2013 19:49 Kupon3ss wrote:On July 23 2013 19:43 ItsFunToLose wrote:On July 23 2013 19:23 XilDarkz wrote:On July 23 2013 19:22 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
Lol...just the fact that you think Syndra of all champions has a "5 person stun" is ridiculous. That's like saying antimage has a "5 person stun" in DotA. It affects a cone that is bigger than any single ability in dota... I think Syndra is ridiculous and thats why I play her. now we know you're trolling. show yourself out. thanks. to be fair, the stun is about the size of MF's ult Thank you! MF's ulti is bigger than any ulti in Dota. Only if set up like 10 seconds in advance; also the fact it knocksback can often be more troublesome than helpful. With my mana, I spam orbs in the 7orb sequence before any fight (for example, while sieging a tower); this sets me up for stuns and big ultimates. I don't ever have trouble getting 3-4 with a stun, which is ridiculous in dota terms. 7 orbs; with 2.4 second cooldown on Q; that's 16.8 sec of set up time. you start with 3... after 2.4s you have 2 out, after 4.8 you have 3, after 7.2 you have 4
Hmmm; Got that wrong on her stun. It's not 7 on her stun; was misled by your earlier post.
You can only get 4 orbs to work with stun; my bad. It's 2.4 x 4; which is again. A fuck ton of time to set up; again. There are times where it's a solid stun, but really it's pretty unreliable.
On July 23 2013 20:07 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:06 IMoperator wrote:
I think I'm the only person that hates having Janna as my support. Absolutely 0 lane presence. Idc about not getting ganked, if you ward and play smart the enemy jungler cant do anything anyway. Every janna I've played with just sits behind me and shields me once in a while. I'd rather have a sona or lulu any day of the week. Isn't that what Janna is supposed to do? If your support is a Janna you want to be an ADC who makes her own plays like Caitlyn, or somebody who is comfortable never making plays like Kogmaw, or somebody who does both (Vayne fuck Vayne) And just be confident that once you do something she will follow you up. That's how I play Janna anyway, is that the wrong way to do it?
A lot of it is baiting out really bad fights from enemy duo, is the easiest way to play it out. If they lack vision in lane you can abuse it with sick nado plays, but if they're competent they won't be caught by your shenanigans.
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On July 23 2013 19:54 XilDarkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:51 wei2coolman wrote:On July 23 2013 19:50 XilDarkz wrote:On July 23 2013 19:49 Kupon3ss wrote:On July 23 2013 19:43 ItsFunToLose wrote:On July 23 2013 19:23 XilDarkz wrote:On July 23 2013 19:22 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
Lol...just the fact that you think Syndra of all champions has a "5 person stun" is ridiculous. That's like saying antimage has a "5 person stun" in DotA. It affects a cone that is bigger than any single ability in dota... I think Syndra is ridiculous and thats why I play her. now we know you're trolling. show yourself out. thanks. to be fair, the stun is about the size of MF's ult Thank you! MF's ulti is bigger than any ulti in Dota. Only if set up like 10 seconds in advance; also the fact it knocksback can often be more troublesome than helpful. With my mana, I spam orbs in the 7orb sequence before any fight (for example, while sieging a tower); this sets me up for stuns and big ultimates. I don't ever have trouble getting 3-4 with a stun, which is ridiculous in dota terms.
Now i'm just confused. We are talking about the Dota with Ravage that covers like the whole screen and stuns for over 3 seconds right?
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Are there replays somewhere? or do I have to record my games?
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On July 23 2013 19:50 XilDarkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:49 Kupon3ss wrote:On July 23 2013 19:43 ItsFunToLose wrote:On July 23 2013 19:23 XilDarkz wrote:On July 23 2013 19:22 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
Lol...just the fact that you think Syndra of all champions has a "5 person stun" is ridiculous. That's like saying antimage has a "5 person stun" in DotA. It affects a cone that is bigger than any single ability in dota... I think Syndra is ridiculous and thats why I play her. now we know you're trolling. show yourself out. thanks. to be fair, the stun is about the size of MF's ult Thank you! MF's ulti is bigger than any ulti in Dota.
Tidehunter. Enigma and faceless Void are up there as well
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I think my offhand comment about the size of spells is getting me a lot of heat when it is more or less irrelevant in the scheme of things... yes, Ravage is bigger, sorry. No, Black Hole is definitely not. No, Void ulti is definitely not. Illuminate and invoker's cyclone are narrower but about as long.
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Just won my promo in to plat. Pretty happy but now I've lost all motivation to play because diamond is so far away :/
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On July 23 2013 20:07 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:06 IMoperator wrote:
I think I'm the only person that hates having Janna as my support. Absolutely 0 lane presence. Idc about not getting ganked, if you ward and play smart the enemy jungler cant do anything anyway. Every janna I've played with just sits behind me and shields me once in a while. I'd rather have a sona or lulu any day of the week. Isn't that what Janna is supposed to do? If your support is a Janna you want to be an ADC who makes her own plays like Caitlyn, or somebody who is comfortable never making plays like Kogmaw, or somebody who does both (Vayne fuck Vayne) And just be confident that once you do something she will follow you up. That's how I play Janna anyway, is that the wrong way to do it?
Well, I first picked ezreal and of course people think Janna is op so might as well play her. Then the opponents choose Varus/Zyra and I get zoned the whole game because janna was useless.
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On July 23 2013 20:12 XilDarkz wrote:
Are there replays somewhere? or do I have to record my games?
Watch Saint's stream right now. He's not at the highest elo right now since he's smurfing; and he's not a midlane player either. But looks like he's a in a talkative mood right now, you'll learn some stuff if you watch it for a while.
On July 23 2013 20:16 IMoperator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:07 Ketara wrote:On July 23 2013 20:06 IMoperator wrote:
I think I'm the only person that hates having Janna as my support. Absolutely 0 lane presence. Idc about not getting ganked, if you ward and play smart the enemy jungler cant do anything anyway. Every janna I've played with just sits behind me and shields me once in a while. I'd rather have a sona or lulu any day of the week. Isn't that what Janna is supposed to do? If your support is a Janna you want to be an ADC who makes her own plays like Caitlyn, or somebody who is comfortable never making plays like Kogmaw, or somebody who does both (Vayne fuck Vayne) And just be confident that once you do something she will follow you up. That's how I play Janna anyway, is that the wrong way to do it? Well, I first picked ezreal and of course people think Janna is op so might as well play her. Then the opponents choose Varus/Zyra and I get zoned the whole game because janna was useless.
To be fair; Varus/Zyra is sort of a bully lane. Not a lot of combos are going to beat that.
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On July 23 2013 20:17 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:12 XilDarkz wrote:
Are there replays somewhere? or do I have to record my games? Watch Saint's stream right now. He's not at the highest elo right now since he's smurfing; and he's not a midlane player either. But looks like he's a in a talkative mood right now, you'll learn some stuff if you watch it for a while.
I meant for reviewing my own mistakes?
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On July 23 2013 20:16 IMoperator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:07 Ketara wrote:On July 23 2013 20:06 IMoperator wrote:
I think I'm the only person that hates having Janna as my support. Absolutely 0 lane presence. Idc about not getting ganked, if you ward and play smart the enemy jungler cant do anything anyway. Every janna I've played with just sits behind me and shields me once in a while. I'd rather have a sona or lulu any day of the week. Isn't that what Janna is supposed to do? If your support is a Janna you want to be an ADC who makes her own plays like Caitlyn, or somebody who is comfortable never making plays like Kogmaw, or somebody who does both (Vayne fuck Vayne) And just be confident that once you do something she will follow you up. That's how I play Janna anyway, is that the wrong way to do it? Well, I first picked ezreal and of course people think Janna is op so might as well play her. Then the opponents choose Varus/Zyra and I get zoned the whole game because janna was useless.
You pick ezreal first.You are just as bad if not worse lol.If they were smart they would've picked vayne+anything but blitz and auto won  .
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On July 23 2013 20:17 XilDarkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:17 wei2coolman wrote:On July 23 2013 20:12 XilDarkz wrote:
Are there replays somewhere? or do I have to record my games? Watch Saint's stream right now. He's not at the highest elo right now since he's smurfing; and he's not a midlane player either. But looks like he's a in a talkative mood right now, you'll learn some stuff if you watch it for a while. I meant for reviewing my own mistakes?
Yeah, I know what you meant; but, right now you're lacking knowledge as to what "mistakes" are.
Also; LoL Replay exists (buggy, and hates new patches).
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On July 23 2013 20:17 XilDarkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:17 wei2coolman wrote:On July 23 2013 20:12 XilDarkz wrote:
Are there replays somewhere? or do I have to record my games? Watch Saint's stream right now. He's not at the highest elo right now since he's smurfing; and he's not a midlane player either. But looks like he's a in a talkative mood right now, you'll learn some stuff if you watch it for a while. I meant for reviewing my own mistakes?
lolreplay
http://www.leaguereplays.com/download/
No official first party system but third party is pretty good.
Honestly though, since you generally have 20+ seconds every time you fuck up to think about what you did wrong, a replay is largely superfluous in finding your mistakes. If you can't figure it out after you die, you'll have a hard time figuring it out from a replay.
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Guys, why are you giving so much flak?
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cuz hes kinda talking out of his ass, ignores bigger questions and better advice and tries to bring knowledge from other games into this when its not even right
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Yo, does anyone know what the mmr is for diamond? I'm at ~1920 mmr according to the op.gg site, and is diamond around that or something? Last game I played I had 4 diamond 4's in, and I'm only plat 3.
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