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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:22 DURRHURRDERP wrote: Sob3k no one is overcentering on anything, he only replied to that post probably because it is the least critical and most easily defended reply. I am focusing on specific questions as I was pointed towards earlier in the thread On July 23 2013 19:26 DURRHURRDERP wrote: If you actually bothered to read my previous posts you'll see that I don't think there is anything wrong with your build or choice of champion, I think there is something wrong with you. That has been my stance since my first reply. Your mindset is terrible and it is preventing you from improving. I thought this was plaintively obvious; the real question is getting myself to recognize it (in my own way) and fixing it. I think the entire mentality of shouting "THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU!" doesn't really help... | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
like good job you went 9-0 against a lux who had almost no help mid from his jungler when zac came mid to help you multiple times, but when teamfights came around you just died instantly without doing anything cuz you itemized poorly | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:22 XilDarkz wrote: Are you actually supposed to back after every kill? I know theres no courier but I thought you were supposed to maximize time spent in lane? Depends; especially early on its really strong to back. Generally speaking if you have the clear speed; what you want to do after a kill is to shove out your lane to deny XP/Gold. Then back, and get an item advantage with your extra 300 gold. There's no point staying in lane for the most part. Or you want to press your map control advantage (now that there's no more midlaner) that means you create a massive mismatch in other places for a bit (think about it as Hockey's power plays or w.e, not really a hockey guy, but this is what I've heard from my hockey fan friends) (such as jungle and other lanes). | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:21 DURRHURRDERP wrote: Killing your own lane over and over is pointless unless you transfer that advantage to your entire team. Did you gank other lanes? Control buffs/dragon/baron? Take towers? Force early team fights with your gold lead? There are so many aspects of the game that it seems you are unaware of that nitpicking a build or champion pick is useless at this point. killing your lane over and over is also pointless unless you remember to get your support/jungler/yourself to feed them a kill so you keep getting good money | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:22 XilDarkz wrote: Are you actually supposed to back after every kill? I know theres no courier but I thought you were supposed to maximize time spent in lane? There's not point in staying in lane for the sake of staying in lane. If you stay in lane it's for pushing/farming. In the case you've already got many kills it's almost not needed to farm and freeze a lane so just push it. If you don't go help other lanes, then just back to buy items making you more powerful to push, etc... | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
It just can't be your only focus :D.If you are a champion that can just 1v5 then you just farm/push otherwise you help your lanes.It's not always optimal to go with your team and help them get stronger imo. | ||
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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
Instead you came in wrong, but continued to defend yourself and make excuses and deflect criticism. You are wrong and you need to man up and admit it. How can you even accept advice or help when your first instinct is to defend yourself from criticism? Would you prefer to improve as a player by having everyone sugar coat their answers to you and work to justify your mistakes? | ||
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:37 DURRHURRDERP wrote: Instead you came in wrong, but continued to defend yourself and make excuses and deflect criticism. You are wrong and you need to man up and admit it. How can you even accept advice or help when your first instinct is to defend yourself from criticism? Would you prefer to improve as a player by having everyone sugar coat their answers to you and work to justify your mistakes? Saying I'm wrong doesn't actually mean too much to me, saying why I'm wrong (like a few have!) does. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:39 XilDarkz wrote: Saying I'm wrong doesn't actually mean too much to me, saying why I'm wrong (like a few have!) does. For the most part; not saying it's acceptable or helpful, but some of the stuff you're having questions about is common knowledge/sense for a lot of us. So explanation seems a bit over the top. | ||
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ItsFunToLose
United States776 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:23 XilDarkz wrote: It affects a cone that is bigger than any single ability in dota... I think Syndra is ridiculous and thats why I play her. now we know you're trolling. show yourself out. thanks. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:43 ItsFunToLose wrote: now we know you're trolling. show yourself out. thanks. to be fair, the stun is about the size of MF's ult | ||
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:48 Numy wrote: Why are you still responding? Someone that asks for advice then spits it back in your face is someone you just don't give advice too. Show me where I have done anything but attempt to discuss (General Discussion) and learn from the advice here? I learn through discourse personally.. | ||
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:49 Kupon3ss wrote: to be fair, the stun is about the size of MF's ult Thank you! MF's ulti is bigger than any ulti in Dota. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:50 XilDarkz wrote: Thank you! MF's ulti is bigger than any ulti in Dota. Only if set up like 10 seconds in advance; also the fact it knocksback can often be more troublesome than helpful. | ||
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:51 wei2coolman wrote: Only if set up like 10 seconds in advance; also the fact it knocksback can often be more troublesome than helpful. With my mana, I spam orbs in the 7orb sequence before any fight (for example, while sieging a tower); this sets me up for stuns and big ultimates. I don't ever have trouble getting 3-4 with a stun, which is ridiculous in dota terms. | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
Just look at how he's carrying his team. Often he'll just push mid lane endlessly. It could look like he's useless but if he's not stopped by the ennemy he wins the game. But since he can 1v1 anyone, they need to send several people to stop him, freeing his other lanes. Very sraightfroward but it works, because he knows how it works. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:50 XilDarkz wrote: Thank you! MF's ulti is bigger than any ulti in Dota. you are so wrong and im just laughing at you now | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 23 2013 19:54 XilDarkz wrote: With my mana, I spam orbs in the 7orb sequence before any fight (for example, while sieging a tower); this sets me up for stuns and big ultimates. I don't ever have trouble getting 3-4 with a stun, which is ridiculous in dota terms. 7 orbs; with 2.4 second cooldown on Q; that's 16.8 sec of set up time. | ||
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