• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:49
CET 01:49
KST 09:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational12SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1375 users

[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 193 194 195 196 197 339 Next
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 22 2013 23:36 GMT
#3881
Man it's so great loving LoL FOR Riot's involvement whereas SC2 fans have to love SC2 DESPITE Blizzard's involvement. Best company on Earth.

Also I wish they just left Blood Boil as it was and accept that Nunu was a support. They desperately wanted Nunu to jungle for some reason and as soon as he does they declare it unfun and try their best to remove it. Need to think about whether you actually want what you're trying to create rather than just assuming it's good.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 22 2013 23:40 GMT
#3882
In promo series, lets see if I don't suck as much as I think I do.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 22 2013 23:42 GMT
#3883
if ya'll are watching mabye you could join me in chat so I don't look like a spammer
Carrilord has arrived.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 22 2013 23:44 GMT
#3884
theres a hack going around right now, watch out guise =]
GANDHISAUCE
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 22 2013 23:47 GMT
#3885
Felt up for some old school shit, so I'm playing Terranigma.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 22 2013 23:54 GMT
#3886
On July 23 2013 08:44 De4ngus wrote:
theres a hack going around right now, watch out guise =]

And by hack, gandhi means trojan/phish via links.

So PSA, don't click on random links you get over PvP.net. Save yourself~
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
July 22 2013 23:56 GMT
#3887
Just don't click on links sent through PvP in general~
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 22 2013 23:58 GMT
#3888
I've clicked once and even tried to log in LOL. After that it asked for my email. You've never seen me change password+email adress that fast before lol. It's weird that it wasn't done by a bot, had a chat with the guy after a few choice insults I sent him. He was a smug bastard.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:04:03
July 23 2013 00:02 GMT
#3889
On July 23 2013 08:34 BlasiuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 08:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:35 Phunkapotamus wrote:
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.

Yeah I really don't get what the crit is doing on this item. I don't even understand who it's aimed at.


Is the crit worse than the extra AD from Maw, considering the cost difference of the items? Seems like it could be a cost-effective alternative to Maw for aa-bruisers.

or what about some kind of crit-bruiser build, with items like spellbreaker/atma's/youmuu's. Also getting spellbreaker allows you to possibly get berserker greaves and still have tenacity.


you want to STACK crit on a bruiser? wtf?

On July 23 2013 08:33 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 08:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:35 Phunkapotamus wrote:
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.

Yeah I really don't get what the crit is doing on this item. I don't even understand who it's aimed at.

Theoretically, if you forbid the one class that cares about crit from getting the item (marksmen), then you can make the crit really efficient without breaking the game in some other way.


well why not just... not have the crit and make it moderately efficient? Then you don't have to build up with a stat you don't care about and don't want.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
July 23 2013 00:05 GMT
#3890
On July 23 2013 08:47 sylverfyre wrote:
Felt up for some old school shit, so I'm playing Terranigma.

Oh man I remember that game!

The story seems straightforward for the first two and a half chapters but then it gets really weird pretty quickly. It's also kind of funny how at one point in the game you have the option of voting for the capitalist or the communist guy for a town, and if you vote for the communist guy the entire town->city upgrade thing gets locked forever and there's no way to recover.
Capricious_LoL
Profile Joined December 2012
United States222 Posts
July 23 2013 00:08 GMT
#3891
On July 23 2013 08:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 08:44 De4ngus wrote:
theres a hack going around right now, watch out guise =]

And by hack, gandhi means trojan/phish via links.

So PSA, don't click on random links you get over PvP.net. Save yourself~


Please Neo, even though we didn't get to play with Meteos and witness his normal queue tryharding because he complained of your unwanted advances. ( I also dig the hair) Please halp. Call up Morello Phreak Guinsoo and IceFrog for me.
NA LoL: Capriciøus
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:10:02
July 23 2013 00:09 GMT
#3892
On July 23 2013 09:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 08:34 BlasiuS wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:35 Phunkapotamus wrote:
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.

Yeah I really don't get what the crit is doing on this item. I don't even understand who it's aimed at.


Is the crit worse than the extra AD from Maw, considering the cost difference of the items? Seems like it could be a cost-effective alternative to Maw for aa-bruisers.

or what about some kind of crit-bruiser build, with items like spellbreaker/atma's/youmuu's. Also getting spellbreaker allows you to possibly get berserker greaves and still have tenacity.


you want to STACK crit on a bruiser? wtf?


All of those crit items also give AD. Most aa-bruisers have built in AS-steroid. So now you have all 3 ingredients necessary to take advantage of the multiplicative scaling.

So, yes.

Edit: also my other questions?
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
July 23 2013 00:10 GMT
#3893
On July 23 2013 09:09 BlasiuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:34 BlasiuS wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:35 Phunkapotamus wrote:
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.

Yeah I really don't get what the crit is doing on this item. I don't even understand who it's aimed at.


Is the crit worse than the extra AD from Maw, considering the cost difference of the items? Seems like it could be a cost-effective alternative to Maw for aa-bruisers.

or what about some kind of crit-bruiser build, with items like spellbreaker/atma's/youmuu's. Also getting spellbreaker allows you to possibly get berserker greaves and still have tenacity.


you want to STACK crit on a bruiser? wtf?


All of those crit items also give AD. Most aa-bruisers have built in AS-steroid. So now you have all 3 ingredients necessary to take advantage of the multiplicative scaling.

So, yes.

Then they get kited indefinitely and go home and cry.

Well, until Olaf gets buffed maybe.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:14:57
July 23 2013 00:12 GMT
#3894
On July 23 2013 09:10 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:09 BlasiuS wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:34 BlasiuS wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:35 Phunkapotamus wrote:
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.

Yeah I really don't get what the crit is doing on this item. I don't even understand who it's aimed at.


Is the crit worse than the extra AD from Maw, considering the cost difference of the items? Seems like it could be a cost-effective alternative to Maw for aa-bruisers.

or what about some kind of crit-bruiser build, with items like spellbreaker/atma's/youmuu's. Also getting spellbreaker allows you to possibly get berserker greaves and still have tenacity.


you want to STACK crit on a bruiser? wtf?


All of those crit items also give AD. Most aa-bruisers have built in AS-steroid. So now you have all 3 ingredients necessary to take advantage of the multiplicative scaling.

So, yes.

Then they get kited indefinitely and go home and cry.

Well, until Olaf gets buffed maybe.


Well that's no different than building those same bruisers without crit. Not really relevant to the question.

On July 23 2013 09:12 mr_tolkien wrote:
Most bruisers can't auto attack more than once or twice in a whole teamfight.


That of course depends on the champ.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 23 2013 00:12 GMT
#3895
On July 23 2013 09:09 BlasiuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:34 BlasiuS wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:35 Phunkapotamus wrote:
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.

Yeah I really don't get what the crit is doing on this item. I don't even understand who it's aimed at.


Is the crit worse than the extra AD from Maw, considering the cost difference of the items? Seems like it could be a cost-effective alternative to Maw for aa-bruisers.

or what about some kind of crit-bruiser build, with items like spellbreaker/atma's/youmuu's. Also getting spellbreaker allows you to possibly get berserker greaves and still have tenacity.


you want to STACK crit on a bruiser? wtf?


All of those crit items also give AD. Most aa-bruisers have built in AS-steroid. So now you have all 3 ingredients necessary to take advantage of the multiplicative scaling.

So, yes.

Edit: also my other questions?

Most bruisers can't auto attack more than once or twice in a whole teamfight.
The legend of Darien lives on
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 23 2013 00:21 GMT
#3896
I don't even buy Zerkers on Trynd am I the only one?
Carrilord has arrived.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
July 23 2013 00:24 GMT
#3897
On July 23 2013 01:35 ticklishmusic wrote:
My winrate during the week is around 60%

My winrate during the weekends is around 40%

Thank goodness there's five weekdays.


I'm a little late but this, this, THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I'm convinced it's because all the little kiddos are allowed to actually play League for more than an hour on Saturday and during the day Sunday (the trolls, afkers, throwers, ragers). Also, people who don't play often and so are consistently "out of practice" get their games in on the weekend too. People with day-jobs during the week who only play like, 4-5 games on a weekend are NOT going to be as good as those of us playing 5-10 games a night... They end up feeding.

Then Sunday night and Monday roll around, and games go back to normal for another 5 nights.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35166 Posts
July 23 2013 00:27 GMT
#3898
Oh god. Req. More quality options pls!
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 23 2013 00:30 GMT
#3899
Playing with worse people leads to higher winrates.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:33:53
July 23 2013 00:33 GMT
#3900
Lost that one, onto promo 2. Unsure at our teamcomp tho...

On July 23 2013 09:27 Gahlo wrote:
Oh god. Req. More quality options pls!

idk how sry
It's your boy Guzma!
Prev 1 193 194 195 196 197 339 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Rongyi Cup S3 - Group D
CranKy Ducklings91
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft459
Ketroc 69
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 824
Shuttle 54
NaDa 22
Noble 14
Dota 2
syndereN549
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 623
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1437
minikerr47
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1974
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor182
Other Games
tarik_tv19397
gofns8085
summit1g5987
Liquid`RaSZi2979
FrodaN1552
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2162
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 89
• musti20045 38
• davetesta35
• Mapu2
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2929
League of Legends
• Doublelift6673
• Scarra1001
Other Games
• imaqtpie2068
• Shiphtur258
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
10h 12m
Wardi Open
13h 12m
Monday Night Weeklies
16h 12m
OSC
23h 12m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
RongYI Cup
1d 10h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
RongYI Cup
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Tektek Cup #1

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.