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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 22 2013 20:27 GMT
#3841
Hopefully these changes will let me play nunu again. Last season he was my most played with a 65%+ win rate. How I don't even get to play him. Plus the perception that he's OP makes people play like retards. All I see are good changes on the PBE.

Also with all these double ad's in Korea I tried muramana into IBC when I had to ad, and god you just murder shit. Easily more powerful then any other ad that has 5k worth of items (Bt/shiv or PD). Super high burst with rewq, and the sustain from q's and auto's. We were massively behind too.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 22 2013 20:30 GMT
#3842
On July 23 2013 05:18 ticklishmusic wrote:
Kennen had above average auto range before (575 vs 550), so he absolutely murdered most melee champs and had an advantage over other ranged champs. As it is, he still has a 1k range poke and is still really strong.

Also, Vayne has 550 range? I thought she had less, dafuq.

Not sure how I feel about the Thresh change. I almost want to say it makes him stronger.


Thresh still feels like he doesn't get punished enough for missing hooks. He still has really strong autoattacks (for a support), still has strong gank assist even without hook up, and still has decent disengage. He is a character that should probably have his AA range reduced, or they could buff Alistar and Taric to be some kind of thresh counters.
Freeeeeeedom
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
July 22 2013 20:35 GMT
#3843
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.
"Do a barrel roll"
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 22 2013 20:39 GMT
#3844
On July 23 2013 05:35 Phunkapotamus wrote:
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.

Some problem with Atma's, incredibly niche. I wonder what part is melee only though? The passives? Cause on Hydra and Hurricane you get the stats but the active/passive don't work.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
July 22 2013 20:40 GMT
#3845
hey i made a new post analyzing clgs playstyle and doublelifts farm esp. what do you guys think? http://cloth5.com/spellsys-stat-corner-analyzing-counter-logic-gaming-clg-playstyle/

the last one was about c9 and their playstyle & meteos: http://cloth5.com/spellsys-stat-series-analyzing-c9s-playstyle/
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 20:47:10
July 22 2013 20:46 GMT
#3846
The changes to Elise are really good imo. Not nerfing her damage, but getting rid of the abuse cases.

Not sure I like the changes to baron though. The fact that it's harder to solo is good for like Nunu is nice, but reducing the debuff on resistances makes it less of a risk. Could be nice for soloQ but not for competitive play imo.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 20:57:10
July 22 2013 20:56 GMT
#3847
On July 23 2013 05:40 spellsy wrote:
hey i made a new post analyzing clgs playstyle and doublelifts farm esp. what do you guys think? http://cloth5.com/spellsys-stat-corner-analyzing-counter-logic-gaming-clg-playstyle/

the last one was about c9 and their playstyle & meteos: http://cloth5.com/spellsys-stat-series-analyzing-c9s-playstyle/


Sorry Spellsy, nice graphs, nice research, but I dont agree with just about any of it

Isn't the most obvious conclusion of the CLG farm distribution is that Nien is simply better at farming than Hotshot? Couldn't you contrast Nien's champion pool which contains farm more champions like Jayce and Elise with Hotshot's that was primarily tanks?

Isn't CS a completely meaningless statistic? Who cares if Doublelift has 60 more farm than his opponent when his team is down 4 dragons and 3 towers and therefore down in the thing that actually matters, gold?

How is Nocturne a counter initiation champion? Or J4? Or any of Jiji's junglers? Isn't Jiji's biggest problem is that he tries to initiate but dies because he has no farm?

"With these defensive elements CLG has pulled off a very interesting late game strategy which seems to force every team to play by their rules." - Come on dude CLG is 8-9 and is a midtable team. Clearly 'everyone' isnt playing their style. Its simply the style that they play, you make it sound like it is the winningest strategy in history

The C9 article was good, this one isn't in my opinion
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 21:13:49
July 22 2013 21:02 GMT
#3848
thank god for the jungle changes, whenever enemy team invaded and stole my buff i felt so useless i could never catch up on exp because wraiths/wolves give almost nothing nowadays
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 22 2013 21:11 GMT
#3849
With the consume nerf and now these jungle change i think i can keep my shorts clean when the enemy team picks nunu.

Spectre's Cowl could be cool. I liked getting spirit visage but it seems not valuable enough for the late game, maybe more worth now?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 21:20:20
July 22 2013 21:15 GMT
#3850
That baron change is a stealth Wriggle's/Madred's nerf since it halves their bonus magic damage to Baron. That's a bigger deal than hitting a couple edge cases who were good at soloing Baron. If Nunu's too good at soloing Baron, then Consume can be nerfed. If Warwick's too good at soloing Baron...then let him be good at it since he's a mediocre jungler otherwise.

It's just an arbitrary nerf to some champions over others.

*Sigh*
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
July 22 2013 21:20 GMT
#3851
On July 23 2013 06:15 Cheap0 wrote:
That baron change is a stealth Wriggle's/Madred's nerf since it halves their bonus magic damage to Baron. That's a bigger deal than hitting a couple edge cases who were good at soloing Baron. If Nunu's too good at soloing Baron, then Consume can be nerfed. If Warwick's too good at soloing Baron...then let him be good at it since he's a mediocre jungler otherwise.

It's just an arbitrary nerf to some champions over others.

*Sigh*

Don't worry, Riot will just add more true damage into the game.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 22 2013 21:30 GMT
#3852
too funny haha

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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 22 2013 21:42 GMT
#3853
TheOddWash
It's your boy Guzma!
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 22 2013 21:45 GMT
#3854
The riot hiring process is nerve wracking. I am getting a design test soon, but they only get back to me like once a week =[
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 22 2013 21:47 GMT
#3855
On July 23 2013 06:45 Phrost wrote:
The riot hiring process is nerve wracking. I am getting a design test soon, but they only get back to me like once a week =[

good luck!
i imagine the pace is a reflection of the volume of applicants
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 22 2013 21:49 GMT
#3856
On July 23 2013 06:45 Phrost wrote:
The riot hiring process is nerve wracking. I am getting a design test soon, but they only get back to me like once a week =[

Better than never getting back to you at all even after like 8 months and multiple apps and contacting support to see if you fucked up or something. That would be... infuriating.
It's your boy Guzma!
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
July 22 2013 21:54 GMT
#3857
On July 23 2013 06:45 Phrost wrote:
The riot hiring process is nerve wracking. I am getting a design test soon, but they only get back to me like once a week =[

This belong to the QQ thread, but they only got back to me once every 3 weeks, and the process stretched for 3/4 months before I was declined (I applied in early January).
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
July 22 2013 21:57 GMT
#3858
I wonder if ELO matters...
Jaedong :3
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 22 2013 22:12 GMT
#3859
On July 23 2013 06:54 caelym wrote:
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On July 23 2013 06:45 Phrost wrote:
The riot hiring process is nerve wracking. I am getting a design test soon, but they only get back to me like once a week =[

This belong to the QQ thread, but they only got back to me once every 3 weeks, and the process stretched for 3/4 months before I was declined (I applied in early January).

I've been on top of reminding them that I'm interested. It's almost become a monday morning ritual for me.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 22 2013 22:14 GMT
#3860
Damn, looks like i'm done playing Ryze. I can't believe they're nerfing EVERY spell.. I'll still try some games on him post-patch but I have a terrible feeling about this.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
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