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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 22 2013 22:16 GMT
#3861
ok is something wrong with twitch atm? i cant log to my account or create new account, streams lag as hell for me
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 22 2013 22:19 GMT
#3862
On July 23 2013 07:14 Perplex wrote:
Damn, looks like i'm done playing Ryze. I can't believe they're nerfing EVERY spell.. I'll still try some games on him post-patch but I have a terrible feeling about this.


Ryze: Champ that used to have problems A,B,C.
Riot: Eliminate A,B,C as viable strategies. Wait 3 months. Nerf Ryze.
Freeeeeeedom
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 22:29:31
July 22 2013 22:27 GMT
#3863
From the earlier-released numbers, it seems like they are slightly lowering Ryze's ranges but also making all of his ranges the same. If anything, that's a sidegrade -- no more stuttering in the midst of your qrqwqeq combo because you weren't in range for one of your spells.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 22:35:42
July 22 2013 22:35 GMT
#3864
If anything, they are making his 1v1 and roaming much much stronger. Being able to run up to ppl more than makes up for the range nerf. It might makes harasssing under tower a bit more tricky, but how often does ryze pushes anybody under turret anyway?

It will make teamfights more interesting and positioning more important for ryze. He'll have to put himself in danger to spam, and won't be as much of an unstoppable rolfstomp machine later on. i actually like the changes.
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 22 2013 22:40 GMT
#3865
On July 23 2013 07:35 Anakko wrote:
If anything, they are making his 1v1 and roaming much much stronger. Being able to run up to ppl more than makes up for the range nerf. It might makes harasssing under tower a bit more tricky, but how often does ryze pushes anybody under turret anyway?

It will make teamfights more interesting and positioning more important for ryze. He'll have to put himself in danger to spam, and won't be as much of an unstoppable rolfstomp machine later on. i actually like the changes.


I guess. Maybe Ill just go back to playing Singed as my AP tanky DPS.
Freeeeeeedom
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 22 2013 22:41 GMT
#3866
On July 23 2013 06:57 ReketSomething wrote:
I wonder if ELO matters...

They did ask for it if you were pursuing a design position.


You can complain that they take too long but I'll say one thing.


At least you got a reply.

-_-;
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 22 2013 22:44 GMT
#3867
Streaming myself attempting to improve, if anyone has any input/advice you're welcome to share it. Or you know, if you just want to watch me fail.

http://www.twitch.tv/requizen/
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 22 2013 22:49 GMT
#3868
On July 23 2013 07:44 Requizen wrote:
Streaming myself attempting to improve, if anyone has any input/advice you're welcome to share it. Or you know, if you just want to watch me fail.

http://www.twitch.tv/requizen/


This is great and I fully support it.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 22 2013 22:52 GMT
#3869
LOL uninstall noob
+ Show Spoiler +
jk you know I love you <3
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
July 22 2013 23:13 GMT
#3870
I honestly still see ryze being viable yes he was nerfed but he needed it his itemization plus his late game dmg dealing was very strong factors for him. I think he will still be a very strong top laner tho
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
July 22 2013 23:14 GMT
#3871
On July 23 2013 07:44 Requizen wrote:
Streaming myself attempting to improve, if anyone has any input/advice you're welcome to share it. Or you know, if you just want to watch me fail.

http://www.twitch.tv/requizen/

Wait a second i remember giving you advice to improve and you said you just playing for fun :o
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 22 2013 23:20 GMT
#3872
On July 23 2013 05:35 Phunkapotamus wrote:
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.

Yeah I really don't get what the crit is doing on this item. I don't even understand who it's aimed at.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 22 2013 23:20 GMT
#3873
On July 23 2013 07:44 Requizen wrote:
Streaming myself attempting to improve, if anyone has any input/advice you're welcome to share it. Or you know, if you just want to watch me fail.

http://www.twitch.tv/requizen/

Back from uninstall to streaming in less than a week. Typical req.
liftlift > tsm
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 22 2013 23:23 GMT
#3874
On July 23 2013 07:35 Anakko wrote:
If anything, they are making his 1v1 and roaming much much stronger. Being able to run up to ppl more than makes up for the range nerf. It might makes harasssing under tower a bit more tricky, but how often does ryze pushes anybody under turret anyway?

It will make teamfights more interesting and positioning more important for ryze. He'll have to put himself in danger to spam, and won't be as much of an unstoppable rolfstomp machine later on. i actually like the changes.

Honestly they just want to make his in game character match the cinematic character
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 22 2013 23:25 GMT
#3875
BLizzard scheduling WCS finals same date as TI3? Hehe Riot in the corner laughing as both knock out themselves.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 23:30:00
July 22 2013 23:29 GMT
#3876
On July 23 2013 08:25 AsnSensation wrote:
BLizzard scheduling WCS finals same date as TI3? Hehe Riot in the corner laughing as both knock out themselves.

There's so much rage in r/SC about the tournament overlap.

I just realized from that thread too, that Riot decided to have a week off for LCS (most likely due to TI3).

hue

Edit: and yeah, top thread in r/Dota2 is also the same thing, l0l. Time to read that one now too.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
July 22 2013 23:33 GMT
#3877
On July 23 2013 08:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 05:35 Phunkapotamus wrote:
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.

Yeah I really don't get what the crit is doing on this item. I don't even understand who it's aimed at.

Theoretically, if you forbid the one class that cares about crit from getting the item (marksmen), then you can make the crit really efficient without breaking the game in some other way.
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 23:41:42
July 22 2013 23:34 GMT
#3878
On July 23 2013 08:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 05:35 Phunkapotamus wrote:
The new Spellbreaker item seems like a "Garen/Trynd/Gangplank" only item. It's melee-only- so what melee champs care about crit? If you don't care about crit I expect Maw to be better if you need that MR slot. I suppose it'd be good for Tankier champs that want to go boots other than Merc Treads.

It would depend on the numbers but I doubt it'll be cost effective given how cost ineffective crit is. Maybe if you sat on avarice blade for a long time.

Yeah I really don't get what the crit is doing on this item. I don't even understand who it's aimed at.


Is the crit worse than the extra AD from Maw, considering the cost difference of the items? Seems like it could be a cost-effective alternative to Maw for aa-bruisers.

or what about some kind of crit-bruiser build, with items like spellbreaker/atma's/youmuu's. Also getting spellbreaker allows you to possibly get berserker greaves and still have tenacity.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 22 2013 23:34 GMT
#3879
Would totally watch TI3 above WCS if I had the time.

Req keep streaming for a while I can't watch for another half hour or so.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 22 2013 23:35 GMT
#3880
Req if you stream for another hour or two I'll send you my viewers.
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