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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 16 2013 16:23 GMT
#2041
On July 17 2013 01:21 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 01:15 Requizen wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:11 ArcTimes wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:06 Requizen wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:04 ArcTimes wrote:
but i want moar maps D:

There used to be 2 other textures, Fall and Winter. They were removed partially because it was harder to see certain things on on Winter (I never had an issue though), partially because with the map reskin they were no longer up to par. There are people that do custom map skins if you want a different visual look.


No i mean, different 5v5 maps. Not that different like dominion, but more different than just skins that change some colors and textures... and the plants and trees. I want something like a mappool of sc. I understand that league doesn't need more competitive maps, but that would be really cool. Things like would require different mechanics, thinking, strategies and ofc different metagames. We know that all champions are not played in SR competitively, but if there are more maps, maybe some of those champions are viable in other maps. Or strategies like double adc support or double jungle. Maybe a map with a bigger jungle, one with less walls, a map where flash is not necessary lol. I don't know, i didn't have enough time to think about how a good map would be but again it would be really cool.

Eh, it wouldn't work in my opinion. Any map that is noticeably different from SR is going to instantiate a new meta, and therefore will be considered too different for competitive play.

On the other hand, the only way that you could change the map but still keep the core the same would be to do things like change the jungle paths, remove the river as a straight line between lanes, change position of buffs/dragon/baron maybe lengthen the lanes to 4 towers, or increase/decrease the distance between towers and lanes. I suppose then you'd have similar roles, but change the meta to more aggressive, more passive, more roam-y, or whatever. Unlikely that it'll ever be done though.


Even if not for competitive it would be fun from time to time, And then if those non competitive fun maps become popular enough some times they eventually become competitive.

I just think it would be a way to drastically change game play without creating a bunch of new champions, items, so on.

I'd watch competitive Dom if they would ever finish balancing it. AB/Dom is the most fun game mode by far.
It's your boy Guzma!
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
July 16 2013 16:23 GMT
#2042
On July 17 2013 01:20 TheYango wrote:
On the long list of things that people have been wanting Riot to add to LoL since beta, more maps is pretty far down the list for me.

Replays is still at the top.

Replays for LoL reminds me of WoW's dance studio.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 16 2013 16:25 GMT
#2043
On July 17 2013 01:20 TheYango wrote:
On the long list of things that people have been wanting Riot to add to LoL since beta, more maps is pretty far down the list for me.

Replays is still at the top.

Riot pls
SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
July 16 2013 16:26 GMT
#2044
On July 16 2013 22:27 smOOthMayDie wrote:
TIL League of Legends is now an Olympic sport.

http://www.p4rgaming.com/league-of-legends-now-official-olympic-sport/

wtf

+ Show Spoiler +
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Based on their front page I'm pretty sure that is the least funny Onion-esque parody news site I have ever seen.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 16:41:39
July 16 2013 16:40 GMT
#2045
On July 17 2013 01:25 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 01:20 TheYango wrote:
On the long list of things that people have been wanting Riot to add to LoL since beta, more maps is pretty far down the list for me.

Replays is still at the top.

Riot pls


Nah, they REALLY need to add another champion with boobies.

And give her a Frostblade skin.

So she can have...

Dat ass.
Hey! How you doin'?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 16 2013 16:44 GMT
#2046
On July 17 2013 01:02 SoulSever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 00:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 16 2013 23:42 SoulSever wrote:
On July 16 2013 23:39 Alaric wrote:
Obligatory "Vileroze has time".


Was more or less expecting someone to say that. In case it wasn't clear, I don't intend on trying to make it as a pro
Though if I'm a stay at home dad, maybe I'll have time?

I actually wrote a blog on this very recently.


Really great blog post Wave, thanks for insight. Loads of comments saying it gets easier after a while is great too.

FYI, I don't have any children yet but soon, just fearing the same as you seeing as I barely have time for games as it is

I subsume that gaming time won't be what you fear the most once your kid is here.

The "news" site being a parody explains those troll statements (wasn't excessively surprised about Balls, more about NeeGodBro).

Regarding the "different map" thing, I'm actually pretty curious as to how differently splitpushing plays out in DotA than in LoL, with no Recall nor summoner Teleport, but TP scrolls galore and a bigger map. If I got it well towers themselves are much easier to kill (unless compared to say Yi) but the ability to nuke waves down and reach tower is harder to come by in DotA?
And you have TP scrolls but since they require structures it can get harder to stop the splitpusher, especially if he's good 1v1 as TPs from several team members are spaced up, Boots of Travel are a situationnal item on most heroes ('cept stuff like the clockwork goblin with Rearm). You also don't have Homeguard to easily reach inner towers.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 16 2013 16:47 GMT
#2047
I still don't know how LoL doesn't have replays when Brood War has replays.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 17:05:57
July 16 2013 17:05 GMT
#2048
On July 17 2013 01:23 XaCez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 01:20 TheYango wrote:
On the long list of things that people have been wanting Riot to add to LoL since beta, more maps is pretty far down the list for me.

Replays is still at the top.

Replays for LoL reminds me of WoW's dance studio.


Hahaha I remember buying the WoTLK expansion and ON the box it showed one of the new features as "custom dances" with pictures and everything. They even have it in the freaking trailer. When I quit 2 years later, the dances still hadn't been added and Blizzard was yet to make a comment on it.. gg.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 16 2013 17:07 GMT
#2049
Lack of cross-region play (at least between NA and EU, the business models in CN/KR/SEA might be too different) also doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, given that the number of people that would actually buy RP on two different regions seems close to zero, and being able to play with friends on other regions without having to grind out a new account would make a lot of people happier.
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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
July 16 2013 17:09 GMT
#2050
On July 17 2013 01:47 kainzero wrote:
I still don't know how LoL doesn't have replays when Brood War has replays.

They don't have a publicly available replay engine. Obviously they have in-house replays for testing, but they would have to work out patching, backwards compatibility, making replays non-editable, and other stuff to make it available for everyone. I don't know how much incentive to spend money producing another version of the existing 3rd party LoLReplay.

They did trademark the file format .rofl though ("Replay OF League")
SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
July 16 2013 17:16 GMT
#2051
On July 17 2013 02:07 TheYango wrote:
Lack of cross-region play (at least between NA and EU, the business models in CN/KR/SEA might be too different) also doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, given that the number of people that would actually buy RP on two different regions seems close to zero, and being able to play with friends on other regions without having to grind out a new account would make a lot of people happier.


Yeah, most people don't even find it to be worth the effort when there is significant downtime on either NA or EU to go make cross-server account. Runes are the biggest inhibitor in my mind
Violet <3 ~~~Better places than here exist
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 16 2013 17:20 GMT
#2052
On July 17 2013 01:23 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 01:21 JimmiC wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:15 Requizen wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:11 ArcTimes wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:06 Requizen wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:04 ArcTimes wrote:
but i want moar maps D:

There used to be 2 other textures, Fall and Winter. They were removed partially because it was harder to see certain things on on Winter (I never had an issue though), partially because with the map reskin they were no longer up to par. There are people that do custom map skins if you want a different visual look.


No i mean, different 5v5 maps. Not that different like dominion, but more different than just skins that change some colors and textures... and the plants and trees. I want something like a mappool of sc. I understand that league doesn't need more competitive maps, but that would be really cool. Things like would require different mechanics, thinking, strategies and ofc different metagames. We know that all champions are not played in SR competitively, but if there are more maps, maybe some of those champions are viable in other maps. Or strategies like double adc support or double jungle. Maybe a map with a bigger jungle, one with less walls, a map where flash is not necessary lol. I don't know, i didn't have enough time to think about how a good map would be but again it would be really cool.

Eh, it wouldn't work in my opinion. Any map that is noticeably different from SR is going to instantiate a new meta, and therefore will be considered too different for competitive play.

On the other hand, the only way that you could change the map but still keep the core the same would be to do things like change the jungle paths, remove the river as a straight line between lanes, change position of buffs/dragon/baron maybe lengthen the lanes to 4 towers, or increase/decrease the distance between towers and lanes. I suppose then you'd have similar roles, but change the meta to more aggressive, more passive, more roam-y, or whatever. Unlikely that it'll ever be done though.


Even if not for competitive it would be fun from time to time, And then if those non competitive fun maps become popular enough some times they eventually become competitive.

I just think it would be a way to drastically change game play without creating a bunch of new champions, items, so on.

I'd watch competitive Dom if they would ever finish balancing it. AB/Dom is the most fun game mode by far.

Controversial opinion, I think the new Twisted Treeline is pretty fun. I never played the old one so I can't compare the two, but the current one is pretty fun if you just wanna play a game full of short skirmishes. People complain Bruisers are OP but that's just the meta of the map.
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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 16 2013 17:25 GMT
#2053
On July 17 2013 02:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 01:23 Requizen wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:21 JimmiC wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:15 Requizen wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:11 ArcTimes wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:06 Requizen wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:04 ArcTimes wrote:
but i want moar maps D:

There used to be 2 other textures, Fall and Winter. They were removed partially because it was harder to see certain things on on Winter (I never had an issue though), partially because with the map reskin they were no longer up to par. There are people that do custom map skins if you want a different visual look.


No i mean, different 5v5 maps. Not that different like dominion, but more different than just skins that change some colors and textures... and the plants and trees. I want something like a mappool of sc. I understand that league doesn't need more competitive maps, but that would be really cool. Things like would require different mechanics, thinking, strategies and ofc different metagames. We know that all champions are not played in SR competitively, but if there are more maps, maybe some of those champions are viable in other maps. Or strategies like double adc support or double jungle. Maybe a map with a bigger jungle, one with less walls, a map where flash is not necessary lol. I don't know, i didn't have enough time to think about how a good map would be but again it would be really cool.

Eh, it wouldn't work in my opinion. Any map that is noticeably different from SR is going to instantiate a new meta, and therefore will be considered too different for competitive play.

On the other hand, the only way that you could change the map but still keep the core the same would be to do things like change the jungle paths, remove the river as a straight line between lanes, change position of buffs/dragon/baron maybe lengthen the lanes to 4 towers, or increase/decrease the distance between towers and lanes. I suppose then you'd have similar roles, but change the meta to more aggressive, more passive, more roam-y, or whatever. Unlikely that it'll ever be done though.


Even if not for competitive it would be fun from time to time, And then if those non competitive fun maps become popular enough some times they eventually become competitive.

I just think it would be a way to drastically change game play without creating a bunch of new champions, items, so on.

I'd watch competitive Dom if they would ever finish balancing it. AB/Dom is the most fun game mode by far.

Controversial opinion, I think the new Twisted Treeline is pretty fun. I never played the old one so I can't compare the two, but the current one is pretty fun if you just wanna play a game full of short skirmishes. People complain Bruisers are OP but that's just the meta of the map.

I don't even think they are OP, but people just hear that it is. There are way too many unexplored options in TT that need to be tested in competition.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
July 16 2013 17:28 GMT
#2054
On July 17 2013 02:25 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 02:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:23 Requizen wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:21 JimmiC wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:15 Requizen wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:11 ArcTimes wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:06 Requizen wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:04 ArcTimes wrote:
but i want moar maps D:

There used to be 2 other textures, Fall and Winter. They were removed partially because it was harder to see certain things on on Winter (I never had an issue though), partially because with the map reskin they were no longer up to par. There are people that do custom map skins if you want a different visual look.


No i mean, different 5v5 maps. Not that different like dominion, but more different than just skins that change some colors and textures... and the plants and trees. I want something like a mappool of sc. I understand that league doesn't need more competitive maps, but that would be really cool. Things like would require different mechanics, thinking, strategies and ofc different metagames. We know that all champions are not played in SR competitively, but if there are more maps, maybe some of those champions are viable in other maps. Or strategies like double adc support or double jungle. Maybe a map with a bigger jungle, one with less walls, a map where flash is not necessary lol. I don't know, i didn't have enough time to think about how a good map would be but again it would be really cool.

Eh, it wouldn't work in my opinion. Any map that is noticeably different from SR is going to instantiate a new meta, and therefore will be considered too different for competitive play.

On the other hand, the only way that you could change the map but still keep the core the same would be to do things like change the jungle paths, remove the river as a straight line between lanes, change position of buffs/dragon/baron maybe lengthen the lanes to 4 towers, or increase/decrease the distance between towers and lanes. I suppose then you'd have similar roles, but change the meta to more aggressive, more passive, more roam-y, or whatever. Unlikely that it'll ever be done though.


Even if not for competitive it would be fun from time to time, And then if those non competitive fun maps become popular enough some times they eventually become competitive.

I just think it would be a way to drastically change game play without creating a bunch of new champions, items, so on.

I'd watch competitive Dom if they would ever finish balancing it. AB/Dom is the most fun game mode by far.

Controversial opinion, I think the new Twisted Treeline is pretty fun. I never played the old one so I can't compare the two, but the current one is pretty fun if you just wanna play a game full of short skirmishes. People complain Bruisers are OP but that's just the meta of the map.

I don't even think they are OP, but people just hear that it is. There are way too many unexplored options in TT that need to be tested in competition.


There's not much high level TT play, sadly. There are those that play it at a high level, but not really enough to warrant a large enough community at the top level.
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SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
July 16 2013 17:46 GMT
#2055
I find TT is really fun when playing premades. I can see how playing solo would suck though. If Baron were as strong on SR as whatever spiderbeast is on TT, teams would think harder about those risky baron calls
Violet <3 ~~~Better places than here exist
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 16 2013 17:49 GMT
#2056
Riot Games IPV6 Disconnects issue:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=39732453
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
July 16 2013 17:57 GMT
#2057
On July 17 2013 01:40 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 01:25 upperbound wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:20 TheYango wrote:
On the long list of things that people have been wanting Riot to add to LoL since beta, more maps is pretty far down the list for me.

Replays is still at the top.

Riot pls


Nah, they REALLY need to add another champion with boobies.

And give her a Frostblade skin.

So she can have...

Dat ass.

Nah bro. Lavaburst Riven. She'll finally unwrap those things and show she's got great cleavage on more than her sword. The community will call it LavaBUST Riven. Then the internet will 34 Lavabust and Frostbutt to infinity.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 16 2013 18:02 GMT
#2058
On July 17 2013 02:57 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 01:40 Zdrastochye wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:25 upperbound wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:20 TheYango wrote:
On the long list of things that people have been wanting Riot to add to LoL since beta, more maps is pretty far down the list for me.

Replays is still at the top.

Riot pls


Nah, they REALLY need to add another champion with boobies.

And give her a Frostblade skin.

So she can have...

Dat ass.

Nah bro. Lavaburst Riven. She'll finally unwrap those things and show she's got great cleavage on more than her sword. The community will call it LavaBUST Riven. Then the internet will 34 Lavabust and Frostbutt to infinity.

LOL
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 16 2013 18:02 GMT
#2059
Just saw that Destiny was listed on probuilds.net LOL
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 16 2013 18:10 GMT
#2060
On July 17 2013 03:02 Lylat wrote:
Just saw that Destiny was listed on probuilds.net LOL

Had someone quote an Athene guide for the reason why he built philo/lucky pick on Ryze yesterday.
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