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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 13 2013 04:09 GMT
#701
On June 13 2013 13:03 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 11:59 Alzadar wrote:
Man, Rengar Orianna so hilarious. I go like 1-6 as Rengar, our team is like 8-24, we lose mid inhib, they are pushing to end.

BUT RENGAR ORIANNA SON. Wipe the enemy team 100-0 in 5 seconds flat. (we also had Graves Zyra Nocturne, it was a great combo team)

What should have been a 20 minute surrender ended a 50 minute victory. The synergy between the two is nuts, Rengar reliably carries the ball into the center of a team, then the wombo combo of damage from Ori's combo + Rengar in the middle with Hydra is an easy win.

One team fight we lost because their ADC sat like a mile behind his team waiting for the fight to start, and they managed to dive Orianna. Even having someone carry Oracles isn't that effective, just gives you a bit of warning. Thoughts? I know this isn't new.

The times you can land an Ori / rengar combo (at objectives) is very limited just put a pink ward and it makes it impossible.

Even if they see through your stealth, he can still jump instantly from a pretty good range (especially with the stack bonus on his item), so Pink/Oracle just turns it from "super imba stealth initate" to a normal leap in Ori combo. Just as good as anyone else who does it.
It's your boy Guzma!
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
June 13 2013 04:10 GMT
#702
But then your stuck with a rengar on your team...
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 13 2013 04:30 GMT
#703
This is kind of random, but why is Hextech Sweeper/Spectral Lantern/Lightbringer limited to ARAM and Dominion? They're not expensive, but they help loads against champs like Teemo and Shaco, and even help somewhat against like Akali/Rengar/ other stealthies-- buying one pretty much counters them. On Summoner's Rift, the only alternative is to buy an Oracle's or a bunch of pinks, which over the course of the game is going to cost quite a bit more.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 13 2013 04:33 GMT
#704
Hextech Sweeper is for detection because those modes do not have vision wards and (iirc) oracle.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 04:36:34
June 13 2013 04:34 GMT
#705
On June 13 2013 13:33 Sufficiency wrote:
Hextech Sweeper is for detection because those modes do not have vision wards and (iirc) oracle.


They have a cheaper Oracle's, no Vision wards.

While I understand that Oracle's is cheaper b/c you die more in those modes, you also get a looot more gold.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 13 2013 04:35 GMT
#706
On June 13 2013 13:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
This is kind of random, but why is Hextech Sweeper/Spectral Lantern/Lightbringer limited to ARAM and Dominion? They're not expensive, but they help loads against champs like Teemo and Shaco, and even help somewhat against like Akali/Rengar/ other stealthies-- buying one pretty much counters them. On Summoner's Rift, the only alternative is to buy an Oracle's or a bunch of pinks, which over the course of the game is going to cost quite a bit more.

I think you actually listed several reasons in your post lol. The item is really cheap for what it does and isn't balanced around SR. Also I don't think Riot wants certain champs to be countered with one item in a competitive setting.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 13 2013 04:36 GMT
#707
On June 13 2013 12:49 emperorchampion wrote:
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On June 13 2013 12:15 arb wrote:
On June 13 2013 12:05 Cloud9157 wrote:
if ur not challenger ur opinion means nothing.

gonna need to see your elo, league, any screens of you beating good players etc etc before your opinion is even considered.


cant even beat pokebunny 1v1 -_- gg


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154615

G-_-G
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 13 2013 04:37 GMT
#708


They love you Neo
It's your boy Guzma!
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 13 2013 04:41 GMT
#709
On June 13 2013 05:47 Sandster wrote:
How do you cancel Shen ult? I remember reading if you use Flash it cancels the teleportation part of the ult, but I tried that once in a game when Flash was on cd and it didn't work.


Anyone?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 13 2013 04:43 GMT
#710
On June 13 2013 13:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 13:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
This is kind of random, but why is Hextech Sweeper/Spectral Lantern/Lightbringer limited to ARAM and Dominion? They're not expensive, but they help loads against champs like Teemo and Shaco, and even help somewhat against like Akali/Rengar/ other stealthies-- buying one pretty much counters them. On Summoner's Rift, the only alternative is to buy an Oracle's or a bunch of pinks, which over the course of the game is going to cost quite a bit more.

I think you actually listed several reasons in your post lol. The item is really cheap for what it does and isn't balanced around SR. Also I don't think Riot wants certain champs to be countered with one item in a competitive setting.


From the standpoint of the other 99.98% of the population, dealing with stealth is just really frustrating especially when champions with stealth also tend to be the ones that snowball really hard.

I honestly think the ARAM/Dominion items are decently designed and priced. Hextech Sweeper seems like a good item on a support-- it isn't an item you can buy right off, but it also means that you won't find yourself with a sightstone and boots at 40 minutes because you've spent all your money on pinks and oracle's against an Eve.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
June 13 2013 04:49 GMT
#711
On June 13 2013 13:41 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 05:47 Sandster wrote:
How do you cancel Shen ult? I remember reading if you use Flash it cancels the teleportation part of the ult, but I tried that once in a game when Flash was on cd and it didn't work.


Anyone?


try spamming right click right be4 u teleport.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 13 2013 04:50 GMT
#712
On June 13 2013 13:08 Eiii wrote:
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On June 13 2013 13:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On June 13 2013 13:03 Eiii wrote:
Is anyone else getting weird lag on NA? three of my friends and me all have 350ms.

It happened to me, entered a custom game, had 220 ping. Left, made a new one, 20 ms.


maaan, it must be something with one of their or part of their network then. We all just played a game and were fine, now in this one three of us can't even play.

Riot has been having issues with NA traffic for a while now. Last I checked, they hadn't found the exact source.
Aezo-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada378 Posts
June 13 2013 05:06 GMT
#713
I have 6500 IP who to buy?
I usually fill in ranked and currently I play:
Top & Mid: Jayce, Zed, Elise
Jungle: Elise, Nunu if elise isn't available
ADC: Varus, Ashe if they aren't
Support: Karma

I've been considering draven or thresh just to abuse bot lane so hard
But I'm also down with buying a champ which is just super fun, considering lissandra or quinn as well.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
June 13 2013 05:08 GMT
#714
On June 13 2013 14:06 Aezo- wrote:
Jungle: Elise, Nunu if elise isn't available

This should clearly be the other way around.
TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
June 13 2013 05:10 GMT
#715
jayce op!
Rookie6
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil583 Posts
June 13 2013 05:13 GMT
#716
On June 13 2013 14:06 Aezo- wrote:
I have 6500 IP who to buy?
I usually fill in ranked and currently I play:
Top & Mid: Jayce, Zed, Elise
Jungle: Elise, Nunu if elise isn't available
ADC: Varus, Ashe if they aren't
Support: Karma

I've been considering draven or thresh just to abuse bot lane so hard
But I'm also down with buying a champ which is just super fun, considering lissandra or quinn as well.


Lee Sin is incredibly fun!
Aezo-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada378 Posts
June 13 2013 05:15 GMT
#717
On June 13 2013 14:10 TomatoShark wrote:
jayce op!


He definitely is I feel like he's one of my worst champions / I always play him badly and still seem to manage to win .
He's also awesome for me top cause I haven't played much top and i can just play safe and do well


On June 13 2013 14:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 14:06 Aezo- wrote:
Jungle: Elise, Nunu if elise isn't available

This should clearly be the other way around.



Haha :D, yeah Nunu has been growing on me each time i play him
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
June 13 2013 05:17 GMT
#718
Holy balls Jack ho is your name. Thats insanely fucking epic neo.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 13 2013 05:32 GMT
#719
On June 13 2013 13:10 Eppa! wrote:
But then your stuck with a rengar on your team...

I know a guy who has got over 10 accounts to diamond playing only rengar top

What's the issue?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
June 13 2013 05:42 GMT
#720
Played some Shyv today to test out the new Wit's End and jungle. Most interesting revelation for me is no one seems to remember what Shyv does. Kept having people walk up to me 1v1 and try and slug it out. Then realize they made a horrible mistake.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
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