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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 01 2013 16:54 GMT
#5481
On July 02 2013 00:18 KissBlade wrote:
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On July 01 2013 23:40 canikizu wrote:
On July 01 2013 23:35 Ketara wrote:
I have a question for our leet diamond+ players regarding minion waves.

How does one best manipulate a minion wave to make sure it will push against the enemy lane as a big clump?

For example, lets say we're in the mid game. Enemy bot lane tier 1 tower is down and there's a lot of posturing going on mid and top. I want to go down to bot lane, clear out minions real fast, and then go back to the posturing with the knowledge that if the enemy team doesn't do anything about it, our minions will push on their tier 2 tower in bot.

What's the best way to do that? Do you just kill as many minions as you can as fast as you can, or is there some trick to ensuring that your minions will clump up and push as an oversized wave?

Freeze lane until the siege unit comes.
Just don't autoattack the minion, try to last hit as late as possible even if you have the ability to 1,2shot a minion.


??? That's not what I heard at all. From what I hear the pro teams in Asia have something called "the slow push" where they kill one - two waves of ranged creeps (or melee creeps) I forget which one but leave the others up when the lane is pushing against them in a long lane. This way their reinforcements take awhile to reach you but yours build up trying to kill the melee line. This causes your ranged creeps to "double up" on a wave which starts snowballing the wave super hard.


Assume a Fresh Lane:

It is 6 on 6. If you kill all 3 Ranged minions their minions will have no DPS, but ample tankiness. That will get the lane snowballing fairly well. Depending on how fast you want the push to start, etc you kill a certain amount. You could possibly also leave more if you want the push to start later, or take more for faster.

The same idea applies for unfresh lanes. Ideally you just want your wave to be slightly stronger than the other side's wave, basically the opposite of freezing.
Freeeeeeedom
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 01 2013 16:55 GMT
#5482
On July 02 2013 01:41 jcc wrote:
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On July 02 2013 00:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 02 2013 00:39 Scip wrote:
There's this secret TL+ section of the forum where nothing interesting has been said yet except for TL+ exclusive Mafia game. Mafia always looked a little bit too much like people pretending they are beating the math by trying to read people but only end up playing worse as a result. Not that I understand it much but that's what I got from watching 10 minutes of Neal streaming it.
I don't have the ad at the top which makes this site look weirdly squished
I can filter out people I don't like but the filter button makes every post bigger so that throws me off even more LOL

Also there was this post that linked a 3 minute video of Naniwa dancing only in his pink underpants to some really really sweet ass pop music, so that was pretty cute :3

LOOL that picture Requizen


Mafia on this forum ends up really interesting.

A LOT of people play based on meta, which is essentially useless because when people know other people play by meta, then they alter their own playstyle. Ends up being a huge cluster of WIFOM, but it's a lot of fun.

Wish I had more time to participate in it.



Isn't mafia like just some card game? Wtf is this forum based mafia nonsense?

It's only a "card game" in that cards are traditionally used to assign roles. The rest is discussion, guile, and sneakiness. I'd play if i had more time. Or, you know, friends.
It's your boy Guzma!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2013 17:00 GMT
#5483
I feel like Mafia would definitely be something I'd enjoy but I've never played it.

._.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 01 2013 17:01 GMT
#5484
On July 02 2013 02:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
I feel like Mafia would definitely be something I'd enjoy but I've never played it.

._.

wtf, you have a group of friends you regularly play board games with, how have you never tried it xD ?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 01 2013 17:04 GMT
#5485
Yeah I can't comment on how it is on forums but it's really fun with a group of friends. Ideally you need like 10+ people but can do it with smaller groups.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2013 17:04 GMT
#5486
On July 02 2013 02:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 02:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
I feel like Mafia would definitely be something I'd enjoy but I've never played it.

._.

wtf, you have a group of friends you regularly play board games with, how have you never tried it xD ?

I think you're being a bit generous.
liftlift > tsm
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
July 01 2013 17:07 GMT
#5487
sigh, I fell asleep during the pause in game 1. time to watch the VODs.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2013 17:09 GMT
#5488
On July 02 2013 02:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 02:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
I feel like Mafia would definitely be something I'd enjoy but I've never played it.

._.

wtf, you have a group of friends you regularly play board games with, how have you never tried it xD ?

Board game nights for me are just 4-6 players. I don't think that's enough for Mafia, afaik.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 01 2013 17:11 GMT
#5489
On July 02 2013 02:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 02:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 02 2013 02:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
I feel like Mafia would definitely be something I'd enjoy but I've never played it.

._.

wtf, you have a group of friends you regularly play board games with, how have you never tried it xD ?

Board game nights for me are just 4-6 players. I don't think that's enough for Mafia, afaik.


I think bare minimum to have a proper game is like 8. You can modify the rules some to maybe do 6 people but it'd be kind of lame. You want a fairly large group to play it with.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 17:13:56
July 01 2013 17:11 GMT
#5490
7 really is the ABSOLUTE minimum for mafia. 11-13 is ideal for in-person games.

There's some interesting spinoffs that work well for 5 players, but they aren't standard mafia.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vengeful_Mafia
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 01 2013 17:16 GMT
#5491
On July 02 2013 02:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 02:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 02 2013 02:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
I feel like Mafia would definitely be something I'd enjoy but I've never played it.

._.

wtf, you have a group of friends you regularly play board games with, how have you never tried it xD ?

Board game nights for me are just 4-6 players. I don't think that's enough for Mafia, afaik.

Okay yeah, that's a bit small. Clearly you just need to get more friends.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
July 01 2013 17:20 GMT
#5492
I've seen this site linked a few times in GDs http://op.gg/progamer/pro/

but what plugin do you need to watch or what?
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
July 01 2013 17:24 GMT
#5493
On July 02 2013 02:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
I feel like Mafia would definitely be something I'd enjoy but I've never played it.

._.


shouldve gone to ESPORTS events where tl people played a shitton of mafia
TranslatorBaa!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 01 2013 17:25 GMT
#5494
On July 02 2013 02:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
I feel like Mafia would definitely be something I'd enjoy but I've never played it.

._.

Try epicmafia
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 01 2013 17:26 GMT
#5495
On July 02 2013 02:20 xMiragex wrote:
I've seen this site linked a few times in GDs http://op.gg/progamer/pro/

but what plugin do you need to watch or what?

Just regular LoL client. Click on game you want to watch, download and open the file .bat and that's it.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 01 2013 17:31 GMT
#5496
Man, inSec plays a sexy Zac. So man great Slingshot + Flash + Let's Bounce combos.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 01 2013 17:33 GMT
#5497
On July 02 2013 02:25 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 02:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
I feel like Mafia would definitely be something I'd enjoy but I've never played it.

._.

Try epicmafia


Recommending a mafia forum outside of teamliquid's? What is this blasphemy?!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2013 17:48 GMT
#5498
There's no way I have time to play Mafia online due to preexisting priorities. Obviously playing it RL at a LAN event would be most ideal but somehow I've missed all the TL opportunities. gg me. -o-
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
July 01 2013 17:59 GMT
#5499
On July 02 2013 02:26 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 02:20 xMiragex wrote:
I've seen this site linked a few times in GDs http://op.gg/progamer/pro/

but what plugin do you need to watch or what?

Just regular LoL client. Click on game you want to watch, download and open the file .bat and that's it.


Ok cool, thanks.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 01 2013 18:12 GMT
#5500
On July 02 2013 02:48 NeoIllusions wrote:
There's no way I have time to play Mafia online due to preexisting priorities. Obviously playing it RL at a LAN event would be most ideal but somehow I've missed all the TL opportunities. gg me. -o-


Bros before hoes man.
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