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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 01 2013 13:26 GMT
#5441
On July 01 2013 22:25 KissBlade wrote:
Ok nm even CN falls for the Baron magnet.


They had to force the team-fight to stop Shen split-pushing, but got caught way too badly by inSec's ultimate. Bad positioning cost them the game more than the call in my opinion.
TL+ Member
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 01 2013 13:26 GMT
#5442
I remember watching broodwar from the TL torrent site, and I would torrent matches that happened.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
July 01 2013 13:28 GMT
#5443
On July 01 2013 22:26 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 22:25 KissBlade wrote:
Ok nm even CN falls for the Baron magnet.


They had to force the team-fight to stop Shen split-pushing, but got caught way too badly by inSec's ultimate. Bad positioning cost them the game more than the call in my opinion.


That looked like desperation baron more than anything else. Comp was too predictable from WE IMO.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 01 2013 13:31 GMT
#5444
why is youtube such ass recently
It's your boy Guzma!
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 01 2013 13:33 GMT
#5445
On July 01 2013 22:28 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 22:26 Letmelose wrote:
On July 01 2013 22:25 KissBlade wrote:
Ok nm even CN falls for the Baron magnet.


They had to force the team-fight to stop Shen split-pushing, but got caught way too badly by inSec's ultimate. Bad positioning cost them the game more than the call in my opinion.


That looked like desperation baron more than anything else. Comp was too predictable from WE IMO.


They had a good team fighting team that survived through the laning phase due to Troll's early game presence, but threw the advantage away with subpar team-fight execution, and had no way of coming back apart from having good team fights, which they kept failing at. WeiXiao was leagues above Score, but apart from him, nobody from Team WE looked that good for me, there's a reason they slipped from being the best team in the region.
TL+ Member
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9216 Posts
July 01 2013 13:34 GMT
#5446
We need a nations cup in EU, that would be fun to watch
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 01 2013 13:36 GMT
#5447
On July 01 2013 22:34 Dan HH wrote:
We need a nations cup in EU, that would be fun to watch

It'd be a bit unfair as Russia will just send gambit
Glorious SEA doto
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 01 2013 13:36 GMT
#5448
On July 01 2013 22:34 Dan HH wrote:
We need a nations cup in EU, that would be fun to watch

We should have a nations cup for NA but it would be like 5 US teams and a group of Canadian challengers.
It's your boy Guzma!
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9216 Posts
July 01 2013 13:37 GMT
#5449
On July 01 2013 22:36 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 22:34 Dan HH wrote:
We need a nations cup in EU, that would be fun to watch

It'd be a bit unfair as Russia will just send gambit

Yeah but it's not just about who wins, there would be a dozen interesting teams
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 01 2013 13:38 GMT
#5450
On July 01 2013 22:37 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 22:36 Fusilero wrote:
On July 01 2013 22:34 Dan HH wrote:
We need a nations cup in EU, that would be fun to watch

It'd be a bit unfair as Russia will just send gambit

Yeah but it's not just about who wins, there would be a dozen interesting teams

Well thinking of teams would be fun, I'm currently trying to think of Spain's top laner I guess it'd be aranae/xpeke/babeta/jimbz and a top.
Glorious SEA doto
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
July 01 2013 13:50 GMT
#5451
On July 01 2013 22:38 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 22:37 Dan HH wrote:
On July 01 2013 22:36 Fusilero wrote:
On July 01 2013 22:34 Dan HH wrote:
We need a nations cup in EU, that would be fun to watch

It'd be a bit unfair as Russia will just send gambit

Yeah but it's not just about who wins, there would be a dozen interesting teams

Well thinking of teams would be fun, I'm currently trying to think of Spain's top laner I guess it'd be aranae/xpeke/babeta/jimbz and a top.


They could use the top laner for GIANTS Samux, or TessLaa

Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
July 01 2013 13:52 GMT
#5452
On July 01 2013 22:38 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 22:37 Dan HH wrote:
On July 01 2013 22:36 Fusilero wrote:
On July 01 2013 22:34 Dan HH wrote:
We need a nations cup in EU, that would be fun to watch

It'd be a bit unfair as Russia will just send gambit

Yeah but it's not just about who wins, there would be a dozen interesting teams

Well thinking of teams would be fun, I'm currently trying to think of Spain's top laner I guess it'd be aranae/xpeke/babeta/jimbz and a top.

Ocelote and Xpeke as solo laners could work.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 14:36:05
July 01 2013 14:35 GMT
#5453
I have a question for our leet diamond+ players regarding minion waves.

How does one best manipulate a minion wave to make sure it will push against the enemy lane as a big clump?

For example, lets say we're in the mid game. Enemy bot lane tier 1 tower is down and there's a lot of posturing going on mid and top. I want to go down to bot lane, clear out minions real fast, and then go back to the posturing with the knowledge that if the enemy team doesn't do anything about it, our minions will push on their tier 2 tower in bot.

What's the best way to do that? Do you just kill as many minions as you can as fast as you can, or is there some trick to ensuring that your minions will clump up and push as an oversized wave?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 14:41:11
July 01 2013 14:40 GMT
#5454
On July 01 2013 23:35 Ketara wrote:
I have a question for our leet diamond+ players regarding minion waves.

How does one best manipulate a minion wave to make sure it will push against the enemy lane as a big clump?

For example, lets say we're in the mid game. Enemy bot lane tier 1 tower is down and there's a lot of posturing going on mid and top. I want to go down to bot lane, clear out minions real fast, and then go back to the posturing with the knowledge that if the enemy team doesn't do anything about it, our minions will push on their tier 2 tower in bot.

What's the best way to do that? Do you just kill as many minions as you can as fast as you can, or is there some trick to ensuring that your minions will clump up and push as an oversized wave?

Freeze lane until the siege unit comes.
Just don't autoattack the minion, try to last hit as late as possible even if you have the ability to 1,2shot a minion.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
July 01 2013 14:56 GMT
#5455
On July 01 2013 22:34 Dan HH wrote:
We need a nations cup in EU, that would be fun to watch

you mean like this? http://www.nationschampionship.eu/
washed
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 15:04:00
July 01 2013 15:03 GMT
#5456
I've been thinking about why i enjoy NA LCS more than EU.

The level of play is very similar in my opinion but i think what makes NA more fun to watch is how much people are invested in the teams and the players and their strong reactions everytime someone succeeds or fails.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
July 01 2013 15:18 GMT
#5457
On July 01 2013 23:40 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 23:35 Ketara wrote:
I have a question for our leet diamond+ players regarding minion waves.

How does one best manipulate a minion wave to make sure it will push against the enemy lane as a big clump?

For example, lets say we're in the mid game. Enemy bot lane tier 1 tower is down and there's a lot of posturing going on mid and top. I want to go down to bot lane, clear out minions real fast, and then go back to the posturing with the knowledge that if the enemy team doesn't do anything about it, our minions will push on their tier 2 tower in bot.

What's the best way to do that? Do you just kill as many minions as you can as fast as you can, or is there some trick to ensuring that your minions will clump up and push as an oversized wave?

Freeze lane until the siege unit comes.
Just don't autoattack the minion, try to last hit as late as possible even if you have the ability to 1,2shot a minion.


??? That's not what I heard at all. From what I hear the pro teams in Asia have something called "the slow push" where they kill one - two waves of ranged creeps (or melee creeps) I forget which one but leave the others up when the lane is pushing against them in a long lane. This way their reinforcements take awhile to reach you but yours build up trying to kill the melee line. This causes your ranged creeps to "double up" on a wave which starts snowballing the wave super hard.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2013 15:21 GMT
#5458
On July 02 2013 00:03 Spaiku wrote:
I've been thinking about why i enjoy NA LCS more than EU.

The level of play is very similar in my opinion but i think what makes NA more fun to watch is how much people are invested in the teams and the players and their strong reactions everytime someone succeeds or fails.

I can't explain what it is but at least online there is a far small response to EU LCS compared to NA. Just look at the LR threads and write-ups. EU is lucky to get even half the activity of NA.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 01 2013 15:21 GMT
#5459
On July 02 2013 00:18 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 23:40 canikizu wrote:
On July 01 2013 23:35 Ketara wrote:
I have a question for our leet diamond+ players regarding minion waves.

How does one best manipulate a minion wave to make sure it will push against the enemy lane as a big clump?

For example, lets say we're in the mid game. Enemy bot lane tier 1 tower is down and there's a lot of posturing going on mid and top. I want to go down to bot lane, clear out minions real fast, and then go back to the posturing with the knowledge that if the enemy team doesn't do anything about it, our minions will push on their tier 2 tower in bot.

What's the best way to do that? Do you just kill as many minions as you can as fast as you can, or is there some trick to ensuring that your minions will clump up and push as an oversized wave?

Freeze lane until the siege unit comes.
Just don't autoattack the minion, try to last hit as late as possible even if you have the ability to 1,2shot a minion.


??? That's not what I heard at all. From what I hear the pro teams in Asia have something called "the slow push" where they kill one - two waves of ranged creeps (or melee creeps) I forget which one but leave the others up when the lane is pushing against them in a long lane. This way their reinforcements take awhile to reach you but yours build up trying to kill the melee line. This causes your ranged creeps to "double up" on a wave which starts snowballing the wave super hard.

It's the casters you kill. The melee just sit there and take a beating while doing mediocre dps.
xPulsAr
Profile Joined October 2011
Japan107 Posts
July 01 2013 15:24 GMT
#5460
Apparently someone picked Shaco @OGN. I go ahead and assume that he was played as a splitpush-only champ again. Anyone mind posting this Shaco's build, please?

On July 01 2013 21:17 GTR wrote:
I swear I just saw this Shaco build in Korean solo queue a few hours ago.

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