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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 29 2013 14:31 GMT
#4941
Rageblade isn't a bad item on Diana, people just prefer Tooth over it instead.
Hey! How you doin'?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 29 2013 14:40 GMT
#4942
I still think Rageblade is mandatory on Kayle. It's redonkulous.

Diana is still a melee champion and her items needs defensive stats to help her dive. Nashor's, beyond the AS for push, has half the max CDR, which is great for Pale Cascade. There's no way I'd substitute Nashor's with Rageblade for good reason.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 29 2013 15:02 GMT
#4943
http://www.lolking.net/champions/udyr#statistics

oh god why, i dont want to play with shitty udyr players.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
June 29 2013 15:07 GMT
#4944
But isn't everyone in your Elo shitty?
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 29 2013 15:08 GMT
#4945
That's one hell of an increase. Jungle udyr is prob my worst champion in the game. Rammus jungle seems easier and more impactful
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 15:18:02
June 29 2013 15:13 GMT
#4946
On June 30 2013 00:07 SHr3DD3r wrote:
But isn't everyone in your Elo shitty?

It's almost as shitty as your elo.

btw im d2 on Turkish server. ( this is not something to brag about though)
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
June 29 2013 15:19 GMT
#4947
I've already started banning Udyr. He's so annoying. :D
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
June 29 2013 15:26 GMT
#4948
On June 29 2013 18:19 silencefc wrote:
Does anyone know Regi's winrate in pro games as TF?

In the last split he was 4 and 0 on TF. So far this split he's 0 and 1. I don't know about before lcs.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 29 2013 15:40 GMT
#4949
On June 29 2013 23:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
I still think Rageblade is mandatory on Kayle. It's redonkulous.

Diana is still a melee champion and her items needs defensive stats to help her dive. Nashor's, beyond the AS for push, has half the max CDR, which is great for Pale Cascade. There's no way I'd substitute Nashor's with Rageblade for good reason.


But Neo

Vamp and lifesteal ARE defensive stats.
Hey! How you doin'?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
June 29 2013 15:42 GMT
#4950
On June 30 2013 00:19 Zhiroo wrote:
I've already started banning Udyr. He's so annoying. :D

Pick Karma.

Profit.
The legend of Darien lives on
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 29 2013 15:44 GMT
#4951
On June 30 2013 00:42 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 00:19 Zhiroo wrote:
I've already started banning Udyr. He's so annoying. :D

Pick Karma.

Profit.


Pick Karma,

Lose elo.

Teammates will blame your pick on them failing lane.
Hey! How you doin'?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 29 2013 15:58 GMT
#4952
On June 30 2013 00:44 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 00:42 mr_tolkien wrote:
On June 30 2013 00:19 Zhiroo wrote:
I've already started banning Udyr. He's so annoying. :D

Pick Karma.

Profit.


Pick Karma,

Lose elo.

Teammates will blame your pick on them failing lane.


Funny how this just happened in a game I played earlier. Not my team thankfully
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 16:10:15
June 29 2013 16:00 GMT
#4953
On June 29 2013 21:44 Shikyo wrote:
So why doesn't anyone ever build Guinsoo's rageblade on hybrids? The trigger effect is incredible and well, it's the most cost-efficient item in the entire game. The trigger effect also stays for like forever after you trigger it below 50% hp...

Kayle: I love rageblade on Kayle -- it's hard to find an auto-attack item that isn't good on her though, so I don't think of it as required.

Nidalee: I like rageblade on Nidalee but I only own her on a smurf so I haven't tried it against non-terrible players.

Tryndamere: Rageblade was really strong on AP Trynd before the nerf, and his non-targeted spells make it easy to keep stacks up while not hitting things. I haven't tried it on him recently.

Sion: I tried going "Hybrid Sion" once in a normal -- it felt really weird and the game was a 20-minute stomp so I didn't learn much, but his survivability at low health with rageblade and ult was HILARIOUS

Jax: Rageblade first on Jax will absolutely demolish non-healing champs 1v1, but I don't like being unable to stay at full health in lane. BoRK is just a must-have on Jax for the mix of utility and damage, and after getting it I usually want an item with health. If his team is already tanky enough, rageblade after BoRK would be the quickest way to ramp up Jax's DPS (formerly gunblade-->rageblade). Flask or 2+ dblades --> rageblade might work too, but I haven't tried it.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
June 29 2013 16:13 GMT
#4954
On June 30 2013 00:02 Mensol wrote:
http://www.lolking.net/champions/udyr#statistics

oh god why, i dont want to play with shitty udyr players.

Because Udyr's skill ceiling is so high. Run to someone, stun him, flame with phoenix, turtle if necessary. So hard to do pls help.

If a player is failing with Udyr he probably would have failed with any other champion.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 29 2013 16:34 GMT
#4955
On June 30 2013 00:40 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 23:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
I still think Rageblade is mandatory on Kayle. It's redonkulous.

Diana is still a melee champion and her items needs defensive stats to help her dive. Nashor's, beyond the AS for push, has half the max CDR, which is great for Pale Cascade. There's no way I'd substitute Nashor's with Rageblade for good reason.


But Neo

Vamp and lifesteal ARE defensive stats.

wot? It's a triggered passive. I'd hardly consider the vamp and LS as reliable. :X
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 29 2013 16:36 GMT
#4956
On June 30 2013 01:13 Spaiku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 00:02 Mensol wrote:
http://www.lolking.net/champions/udyr#statistics

oh god why, i dont want to play with shitty udyr players.

Because Udyr's skill ceiling is so high. Run to someone, stun him, flame with phoenix, turtle if necessary. So hard to do pls help.

If a player is failing with Udyr he probably would have failed with any other champion.


Dunno, I feel like I get kited forever an age as jungle Udyr. Maybe I just pick him in inappropriate situations. I miss playing him top though (stupid turtle rework).
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 16:45:57
June 29 2013 16:45 GMT
#4957
On June 30 2013 01:36 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 01:13 Spaiku wrote:
On June 30 2013 00:02 Mensol wrote:
http://www.lolking.net/champions/udyr#statistics

oh god why, i dont want to play with shitty udyr players.

Because Udyr's skill ceiling is so high. Run to someone, stun him, flame with phoenix, turtle if necessary. So hard to do pls help.

If a player is failing with Udyr he probably would have failed with any other champion.


Dunno, I feel like I get kited forever an age as jungle Udyr. Maybe I just pick him in inappropriate situations. I miss playing him top though (stupid turtle rework).

You can be pretty fast as bear Udyr with mov speed quints and boots of swiftness.

But yeah sucks to not have a gap closer in the league of gap closers.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 29 2013 16:48 GMT
#4958
Feel Udyr is pretty hard to have same impact as other junglers. Dunno why you say if someone fails at Udyr they would fail at anything. If you playing bad with a Zac compared to an Udyr I think the Zac would still do so much more.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 29 2013 16:51 GMT
#4959
On June 30 2013 01:13 Spaiku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 00:02 Mensol wrote:
http://www.lolking.net/champions/udyr#statistics

oh god why, i dont want to play with shitty udyr players.

Because Udyr's skill ceiling is so high. Run to someone, stun him, flame with phoenix, turtle if necessary. So hard to do pls help.

If a player is failing with Udyr he probably would have failed with any other champion.

People still fail as Udyr harder than they do with a champ they've played.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
June 29 2013 16:51 GMT
#4960
On June 30 2013 01:45 Spaiku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 01:36 zer0das wrote:
On June 30 2013 01:13 Spaiku wrote:
On June 30 2013 00:02 Mensol wrote:
http://www.lolking.net/champions/udyr#statistics

oh god why, i dont want to play with shitty udyr players.

Because Udyr's skill ceiling is so high. Run to someone, stun him, flame with phoenix, turtle if necessary. So hard to do pls help.

If a player is failing with Udyr he probably would have failed with any other champion.


Dunno, I feel like I get kited forever an age as jungle Udyr. Maybe I just pick him in inappropriate situations. I miss playing him top though (stupid turtle rework).

You can be pretty fast as bear Udyr with mov speed quints and boots of swiftness.

But yeah sucks to not have a gap closer in the league of gap closers.


They tried to fix this with the bear stance changes but he still feels underwhelming at times
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