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On June 30 2013 03:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Alaric, I...
Are padding your post count. Bad mod.
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On June 30 2013 02:24 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 01:56 Zdrastochye wrote:On June 30 2013 01:55 Slayer91 wrote:On June 29 2013 22:21 Simberto wrote:On June 29 2013 21:10 Slayer91 wrote:
best answer to not wanting to donate blue buff is to ward enemy blue and smite it and once mids get too scared of going for blue early on then eventually everyone will smite the 2nd blue (nobody really cares about 3rd blue)
lol @ "/mute alll and tax lanes". If you are taxing lanes at a point where you shouldn't be then don't do it. Sometimes its just the best play to push a lane and allow someone to back without having a frozen lane. Yeah, but if you are taking any farm out of a lane, even if it makes sense, you should generally mute the laner there. Because he WILL flame you. No matter the situation. If he is dead for another 30 seconds and the wave is running into tower, and you only lasthit and freeze just out of turret range so he can do whatever he wants with the lane, he will still spam back and flame you for "fucking up his lane". First off, you should NEVER mute anyone. If you're getting flamed it's important that you decide for yourself if it was right or wrong. I cant tell you how many times getting flamed ni a situation has caused me to rethink a situation and change my opinion Secondly, I get flamed for pushing badly, but whne I push and it helps more than it hurts I've actually been complimented as "finally a jungler who understands top lane". op SOME people you can mute. theres no reason to mute anyone if flame makes you angry you have ego issues Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 02:15 KissBlade wrote:On June 30 2013 01:55 Slayer91 wrote:On June 29 2013 22:21 Simberto wrote:On June 29 2013 21:10 Slayer91 wrote:
best answer to not wanting to donate blue buff is to ward enemy blue and smite it and once mids get too scared of going for blue early on then eventually everyone will smite the 2nd blue (nobody really cares about 3rd blue)
lol @ "/mute alll and tax lanes". If you are taxing lanes at a point where you shouldn't be then don't do it. Sometimes its just the best play to push a lane and allow someone to back without having a frozen lane. Yeah, but if you are taking any farm out of a lane, even if it makes sense, you should generally mute the laner there. Because he WILL flame you. No matter the situation. If he is dead for another 30 seconds and the wave is running into tower, and you only lasthit and freeze just out of turret range so he can do whatever he wants with the lane, he will still spam back and flame you for "fucking up his lane". First off, you should NEVER mute anyone. If you're getting flamed it's important that you decide for yourself if it was right or wrong. I cant tell you how many times getting flamed ni a situation has caused me to rethink a situation and change my opinion Secondly, I get flamed for pushing badly, but whne I push and it helps more than it hurts I've actually been complimented as "finally a jungler who understands top lane". op TBH, you play at level where people understand the game a fair amount. I had one game where I ended up supporting and I was autoing the wave (not messing up last hits, just weakening full health minions) because we were getting shoved in by their team. My ADC started flaming me for "pushing the wave". =\ There are times when you just pretend your teammates are bots and carry the game from there. just because sometimes your teammates are wrong doesnt mean you should ignore all of them. For example autoing the wave because you're getting shoved is something I never even bother doing because it wont make any difference and its easy to last hit under tower vs full hp minions anyway.
The main problem, at least for me, is that if someone keeps talking stupid things to me i feel obligated to answer them. Which both does not help in any way, makes them talk more stupid shit, and makes me waste my time talking instead of playing. Plus talking too much increases the chance of you getting into tribunal. It also annoys me greatly. Thus, for me personally, i play better and have more fun if i mute someone as soon as they say the first stupid thing. Given the frequency with which i have actually useful conversations in LoL, i could probably just mute everyone at the start of the game and not lose out on a lot, but i am too lazy to do that.
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On June 30 2013 03:32 Vanka wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 02:26 c.Deadly wrote:On June 30 2013 02:10 Vanka wrote:
Considering the amumu debate back there and this, and that my two jungle mains are udyr and amumu (and being two of my highest winrate champs), I wish I had written those guides I had been thinking about writing. =/ only problem is that I haven't jungled anyone in 3.8 other than nunu, and I've been spamming adc in my pipe dream for challenger.
I may still, once i have some time, since you guys apparently play amumu and udyr far differently than I do. Can you hit us with an abridged Udyr overview? What do you do differently? Obviously there'd be a lot of demand for something like that with the skin coming out Sorry Neo for posting once more about this outside the subforum, I'll probably make a new thread when I write the guide, I think the most recent udyr thread is kind of underwheling. the short version of my udyr style is that I play udyr as a counter to high skirmish ad junglers: lee, j4, xin, and to a smaller extent hecarim. I build madreds for the armor, stack cloth armors and ruby crystal/kindlegem before finishing any item, and wards. I never gank unless my flash is up and theirs is not, but instead force 2v2 skirmishes by trying to actively predict the enemy ganks by their movement through wards and contesting enemy buffs. (my build/mindset is significantly different for double ap comps as well as ap junglers) In teamfights, I run at their enemy carries, forcing them to kite and then I turn and stun the enemy tanks and peel for my carry. I also run magic pen reds, but that's because I can only have two rune pages on the chinese server without paying money. It does help when I'm fighting tank on tank though.
That is so dumb on Riot's part.
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whether it's because of your reaction to negativity, a compulsion to correct people who are wrong in chat, or a multitude of other reasons; muting people liberally can often lead to both a more enjoyable game and a higher winrate.
i mean this only applies to non-perfect humans who don't have complete control over their reaction to stimuli, but i'm pretty sure that is approximately 100% of the population.
if you think you have a higher evolved psyche that is beyond "ego problems" because some guy you met drastically changed your worldview that's cool and all, but it doesn't have anything to do with the decisions that other people make and how those decisions affect them in reality.
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On June 30 2013 04:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
That is so dumb on Riot's part.
Tencent. Riot doesn't oversee the Chinese distribution directly, IIRC.
AFAIK Tencent and Garena have particularly draconian implementations of "free to play".
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On June 30 2013 04:08 TheYango wrote:Tencent. Riot doesn't oversee the Chinese distribution directly, IIRC. AFAIK Tencent and Garena have particularly draconian implementations of "free to play".
I wonder if this has any effects on their metagame, since champion prices are probably higher as well.
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I thought they get champs unlocked if they play at pc bangs or is that only korea.
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On June 30 2013 04:25 Flakes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 04:08 TheYango wrote:On June 30 2013 04:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
That is so dumb on Riot's part. Tencent. Riot doesn't oversee the Chinese distribution directly, IIRC. AFAIK Tencent and Garena have particularly draconian implementations of "free to play". I wonder if this has any effects on their metagame, since champion prices are probably higher as well.
I remember seeing somewhere that Garena champ prices go up to 9400 IP.
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On June 30 2013 05:00 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 04:25 Flakes wrote:On June 30 2013 04:08 TheYango wrote:On June 30 2013 04:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
That is so dumb on Riot's part. Tencent. Riot doesn't oversee the Chinese distribution directly, IIRC. AFAIK Tencent and Garena have particularly draconian implementations of "free to play". I wonder if this has any effects on their metagame, since champion prices are probably higher as well. I remember seeing somewhere that Garena champ prices go up to 9400 IP.
How much does their RP cost?
Edit: RP not IP
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On June 30 2013 04:25 Flakes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 04:08 TheYango wrote:On June 30 2013 04:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
That is so dumb on Riot's part. Tencent. Riot doesn't oversee the Chinese distribution directly, IIRC. AFAIK Tencent and Garena have particularly draconian implementations of "free to play". I wonder if this has any effects on their metagame, since champion prices are probably higher as well.
I can't talk about Chinese LoL, but in Garena, although the champion price is kinda high, there're lots of events that make up for it, such as "Get 50% more RP when purchasing RP this week" "IP boost whole week/weekend" "Celebrating the International Woman Day, all girl champs plus Taric, Ezreal 75% off" "Buy first pay later (your ip will go below 0 but not lower than -10k ip)"
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On June 30 2013 04:26 Numy wrote:
I thought they get champs unlocked if they play at pc bangs or is that only korea.
That's what I thought as well.
I heard Garena also lets you rent champions/skins.
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So, to prepare for all the Udyr I'm gonna see and having one every now and then be competent, who can fight him 1v1 in jungle?
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On June 30 2013 06:05 Gahlo wrote:
So, to prepare for all the Udyr I'm gonna see and having one every now and then be competent, who can fight him 1v1 in jungle?
Trundle
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On June 30 2013 02:24 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 01:56 Zdrastochye wrote:On June 30 2013 01:55 Slayer91 wrote:On June 29 2013 22:21 Simberto wrote:On June 29 2013 21:10 Slayer91 wrote:
best answer to not wanting to donate blue buff is to ward enemy blue and smite it and once mids get too scared of going for blue early on then eventually everyone will smite the 2nd blue (nobody really cares about 3rd blue)
lol @ "/mute alll and tax lanes". If you are taxing lanes at a point where you shouldn't be then don't do it. Sometimes its just the best play to push a lane and allow someone to back without having a frozen lane. Yeah, but if you are taking any farm out of a lane, even if it makes sense, you should generally mute the laner there. Because he WILL flame you. No matter the situation. If he is dead for another 30 seconds and the wave is running into tower, and you only lasthit and freeze just out of turret range so he can do whatever he wants with the lane, he will still spam back and flame you for "fucking up his lane". First off, you should NEVER mute anyone. If you're getting flamed it's important that you decide for yourself if it was right or wrong. I cant tell you how many times getting flamed ni a situation has caused me to rethink a situation and change my opinion Secondly, I get flamed for pushing badly, but whne I push and it helps more than it hurts I've actually been complimented as "finally a jungler who understands top lane". op SOME people you can mute. theres no reason to mute anyone if flame makes you angry you have ego issues Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 02:15 KissBlade wrote:On June 30 2013 01:55 Slayer91 wrote:On June 29 2013 22:21 Simberto wrote:On June 29 2013 21:10 Slayer91 wrote:
best answer to not wanting to donate blue buff is to ward enemy blue and smite it and once mids get too scared of going for blue early on then eventually everyone will smite the 2nd blue (nobody really cares about 3rd blue)
lol @ "/mute alll and tax lanes". If you are taxing lanes at a point where you shouldn't be then don't do it. Sometimes its just the best play to push a lane and allow someone to back without having a frozen lane. Yeah, but if you are taking any farm out of a lane, even if it makes sense, you should generally mute the laner there. Because he WILL flame you. No matter the situation. If he is dead for another 30 seconds and the wave is running into tower, and you only lasthit and freeze just out of turret range so he can do whatever he wants with the lane, he will still spam back and flame you for "fucking up his lane". First off, you should NEVER mute anyone. If you're getting flamed it's important that you decide for yourself if it was right or wrong. I cant tell you how many times getting flamed ni a situation has caused me to rethink a situation and change my opinion Secondly, I get flamed for pushing badly, but whne I push and it helps more than it hurts I've actually been complimented as "finally a jungler who understands top lane". op TBH, you play at level where people understand the game a fair amount. I had one game where I ended up supporting and I was autoing the wave (not messing up last hits, just weakening full health minions) because we were getting shoved in by their team. My ADC started flaming me for "pushing the wave". =\ There are times when you just pretend your teammates are bots and carry the game from there. just because sometimes your teammates are wrong doesnt mean you should ignore all of them. For example autoing the wave because you're getting shoved is something I never even bother doing because it wont make any difference and its easy to last hit under tower vs full hp minions anyway.
I'm sorry, but no. Verbal abuse affects different people differently, and just because somebody does not have high tolerance for verbal abuse says nothing negative about them. Please don't rationalize any kind of abuse as "OK". It's not ok.
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On June 30 2013 06:07 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 02:24 Slayer91 wrote:On June 30 2013 01:56 Zdrastochye wrote:On June 30 2013 01:55 Slayer91 wrote:On June 29 2013 22:21 Simberto wrote:On June 29 2013 21:10 Slayer91 wrote:
best answer to not wanting to donate blue buff is to ward enemy blue and smite it and once mids get too scared of going for blue early on then eventually everyone will smite the 2nd blue (nobody really cares about 3rd blue)
lol @ "/mute alll and tax lanes". If you are taxing lanes at a point where you shouldn't be then don't do it. Sometimes its just the best play to push a lane and allow someone to back without having a frozen lane. Yeah, but if you are taking any farm out of a lane, even if it makes sense, you should generally mute the laner there. Because he WILL flame you. No matter the situation. If he is dead for another 30 seconds and the wave is running into tower, and you only lasthit and freeze just out of turret range so he can do whatever he wants with the lane, he will still spam back and flame you for "fucking up his lane". First off, you should NEVER mute anyone. If you're getting flamed it's important that you decide for yourself if it was right or wrong. I cant tell you how many times getting flamed ni a situation has caused me to rethink a situation and change my opinion Secondly, I get flamed for pushing badly, but whne I push and it helps more than it hurts I've actually been complimented as "finally a jungler who understands top lane". op SOME people you can mute. theres no reason to mute anyone if flame makes you angry you have ego issues On June 30 2013 02:15 KissBlade wrote:On June 30 2013 01:55 Slayer91 wrote:On June 29 2013 22:21 Simberto wrote:On June 29 2013 21:10 Slayer91 wrote:
best answer to not wanting to donate blue buff is to ward enemy blue and smite it and once mids get too scared of going for blue early on then eventually everyone will smite the 2nd blue (nobody really cares about 3rd blue)
lol @ "/mute alll and tax lanes". If you are taxing lanes at a point where you shouldn't be then don't do it. Sometimes its just the best play to push a lane and allow someone to back without having a frozen lane. Yeah, but if you are taking any farm out of a lane, even if it makes sense, you should generally mute the laner there. Because he WILL flame you. No matter the situation. If he is dead for another 30 seconds and the wave is running into tower, and you only lasthit and freeze just out of turret range so he can do whatever he wants with the lane, he will still spam back and flame you for "fucking up his lane". First off, you should NEVER mute anyone. If you're getting flamed it's important that you decide for yourself if it was right or wrong. I cant tell you how many times getting flamed ni a situation has caused me to rethink a situation and change my opinion Secondly, I get flamed for pushing badly, but whne I push and it helps more than it hurts I've actually been complimented as "finally a jungler who understands top lane". op TBH, you play at level where people understand the game a fair amount. I had one game where I ended up supporting and I was autoing the wave (not messing up last hits, just weakening full health minions) because we were getting shoved in by their team. My ADC started flaming me for "pushing the wave". =\ There are times when you just pretend your teammates are bots and carry the game from there. just because sometimes your teammates are wrong doesnt mean you should ignore all of them. For example autoing the wave because you're getting shoved is something I never even bother doing because it wont make any difference and its easy to last hit under tower vs full hp minions anyway. I'm sorry, but no. Verbal abuse affects different people differently, and just because somebody does not have high tolerance for verbal abuse says nothing negative about them. Please don't rationalize any kind of abuse as "OK". It's not ok.
how you respond to verbal abuse is purely based on your ego/mentality and its a very changeable thing
and it does say something negative about you - it says you let the opinions of strangers online affect you personally
just saying whatever i said was wrong without any justification is not a valid response
On June 30 2013 06:05 Gahlo wrote:
So, to prepare for all the Udyr I'm gonna see and having one every now and then be competent, who can fight him 1v1 in jungle?
honestly you should never have to fight someone 1v1 in jungle, any invade should be countered by your teams reaction, the time its a problem is if he's so far ahead that he can kill you before a response can come. If you do your buffs quickly there is no way a double buff udyr will be able to catch you in a vulnerable spot.
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On June 30 2013 06:18 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 06:07 sylverfyre wrote:On June 30 2013 02:24 Slayer91 wrote:On June 30 2013 01:56 Zdrastochye wrote:On June 30 2013 01:55 Slayer91 wrote:On June 29 2013 22:21 Simberto wrote:On June 29 2013 21:10 Slayer91 wrote:
best answer to not wanting to donate blue buff is to ward enemy blue and smite it and once mids get too scared of going for blue early on then eventually everyone will smite the 2nd blue (nobody really cares about 3rd blue)
lol @ "/mute alll and tax lanes". If you are taxing lanes at a point where you shouldn't be then don't do it. Sometimes its just the best play to push a lane and allow someone to back without having a frozen lane. Yeah, but if you are taking any farm out of a lane, even if it makes sense, you should generally mute the laner there. Because he WILL flame you. No matter the situation. If he is dead for another 30 seconds and the wave is running into tower, and you only lasthit and freeze just out of turret range so he can do whatever he wants with the lane, he will still spam back and flame you for "fucking up his lane". First off, you should NEVER mute anyone. If you're getting flamed it's important that you decide for yourself if it was right or wrong. I cant tell you how many times getting flamed ni a situation has caused me to rethink a situation and change my opinion Secondly, I get flamed for pushing badly, but whne I push and it helps more than it hurts I've actually been complimented as "finally a jungler who understands top lane". op SOME people you can mute. theres no reason to mute anyone if flame makes you angry you have ego issues On June 30 2013 02:15 KissBlade wrote:On June 30 2013 01:55 Slayer91 wrote:On June 29 2013 22:21 Simberto wrote:On June 29 2013 21:10 Slayer91 wrote:
best answer to not wanting to donate blue buff is to ward enemy blue and smite it and once mids get too scared of going for blue early on then eventually everyone will smite the 2nd blue (nobody really cares about 3rd blue)
lol @ "/mute alll and tax lanes". If you are taxing lanes at a point where you shouldn't be then don't do it. Sometimes its just the best play to push a lane and allow someone to back without having a frozen lane. Yeah, but if you are taking any farm out of a lane, even if it makes sense, you should generally mute the laner there. Because he WILL flame you. No matter the situation. If he is dead for another 30 seconds and the wave is running into tower, and you only lasthit and freeze just out of turret range so he can do whatever he wants with the lane, he will still spam back and flame you for "fucking up his lane". First off, you should NEVER mute anyone. If you're getting flamed it's important that you decide for yourself if it was right or wrong. I cant tell you how many times getting flamed ni a situation has caused me to rethink a situation and change my opinion Secondly, I get flamed for pushing badly, but whne I push and it helps more than it hurts I've actually been complimented as "finally a jungler who understands top lane". op TBH, you play at level where people understand the game a fair amount. I had one game where I ended up supporting and I was autoing the wave (not messing up last hits, just weakening full health minions) because we were getting shoved in by their team. My ADC started flaming me for "pushing the wave". =\ There are times when you just pretend your teammates are bots and carry the game from there. just because sometimes your teammates are wrong doesnt mean you should ignore all of them. For example autoing the wave because you're getting shoved is something I never even bother doing because it wont make any difference and its easy to last hit under tower vs full hp minions anyway. I'm sorry, but no. Verbal abuse affects different people differently, and just because somebody does not have high tolerance for verbal abuse says nothing negative about them. Please don't rationalize any kind of abuse as "OK". It's not ok. how you respond to verbal abuse is purely based on your ego/mentality and its a very changeable thing and it does say something negative about you - it says you let the opinions of strangers online affect you personally just saying whatever i said was wrong without any justification is not a valid response Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 06:05 Gahlo wrote:
So, to prepare for all the Udyr I'm gonna see and having one every now and then be competent, who can fight him 1v1 in jungle? honestly you should never have to fight someone 1v1 in jungle, any invade should be countered by your teams reaction, the time its a problem is if he's so far ahead that he can kill you before a response can come. If you do your buffs quickly there is no way a double buff udyr will be able to catch you in a vulnerable spot.
Where I play, nobody comes to help you.
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you should still be fine because if you take blue and red instantly he cant do catch you anywhere in the jungle and the worst thats going to happen is he'll chase you off wraiths or something oh noes
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On June 30 2013 06:18 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 06:07 sylverfyre wrote:On June 30 2013 02:24 Slayer91 wrote:On June 30 2013 01:56 Zdrastochye wrote:On June 30 2013 01:55 Slayer91 wrote:On June 29 2013 22:21 Simberto wrote:On June 29 2013 21:10 Slayer91 wrote:
best answer to not wanting to donate blue buff is to ward enemy blue and smite it and once mids get too scared of going for blue early on then eventually everyone will smite the 2nd blue (nobody really cares about 3rd blue)
lol @ "/mute alll and tax lanes". If you are taxing lanes at a point where you shouldn't be then don't do it. Sometimes its just the best play to push a lane and allow someone to back without having a frozen lane. Yeah, but if you are taking any farm out of a lane, even if it makes sense, you should generally mute the laner there. Because he WILL flame you. No matter the situation. If he is dead for another 30 seconds and the wave is running into tower, and you only lasthit and freeze just out of turret range so he can do whatever he wants with the lane, he will still spam back and flame you for "fucking up his lane". First off, you should NEVER mute anyone. If you're getting flamed it's important that you decide for yourself if it was right or wrong. I cant tell you how many times getting flamed ni a situation has caused me to rethink a situation and change my opinion Secondly, I get flamed for pushing badly, but whne I push and it helps more than it hurts I've actually been complimented as "finally a jungler who understands top lane". op SOME people you can mute. theres no reason to mute anyone if flame makes you angry you have ego issues On June 30 2013 02:15 KissBlade wrote:On June 30 2013 01:55 Slayer91 wrote:On June 29 2013 22:21 Simberto wrote:On June 29 2013 21:10 Slayer91 wrote:
best answer to not wanting to donate blue buff is to ward enemy blue and smite it and once mids get too scared of going for blue early on then eventually everyone will smite the 2nd blue (nobody really cares about 3rd blue)
lol @ "/mute alll and tax lanes". If you are taxing lanes at a point where you shouldn't be then don't do it. Sometimes its just the best play to push a lane and allow someone to back without having a frozen lane. Yeah, but if you are taking any farm out of a lane, even if it makes sense, you should generally mute the laner there. Because he WILL flame you. No matter the situation. If he is dead for another 30 seconds and the wave is running into tower, and you only lasthit and freeze just out of turret range so he can do whatever he wants with the lane, he will still spam back and flame you for "fucking up his lane". First off, you should NEVER mute anyone. If you're getting flamed it's important that you decide for yourself if it was right or wrong. I cant tell you how many times getting flamed ni a situation has caused me to rethink a situation and change my opinion Secondly, I get flamed for pushing badly, but whne I push and it helps more than it hurts I've actually been complimented as "finally a jungler who understands top lane". op TBH, you play at level where people understand the game a fair amount. I had one game where I ended up supporting and I was autoing the wave (not messing up last hits, just weakening full health minions) because we were getting shoved in by their team. My ADC started flaming me for "pushing the wave". =\ There are times when you just pretend your teammates are bots and carry the game from there. just because sometimes your teammates are wrong doesnt mean you should ignore all of them. For example autoing the wave because you're getting shoved is something I never even bother doing because it wont make any difference and its easy to last hit under tower vs full hp minions anyway. I'm sorry, but no. Verbal abuse affects different people differently, and just because somebody does not have high tolerance for verbal abuse says nothing negative about them. Please don't rationalize any kind of abuse as "OK". It's not ok. how you respond to verbal abuse is purely based on your ego/mentality and its a very changeable thing and it does say something negative about you - it says you let the opinions of strangers online affect you personally just saying whatever i said was wrong without any justification is not a valid response
This is such an incredible viewpoint, and I am amazed that any mature adult would think this way.
Please do not rationalize verbal abuse as being okay, ever. It's not okay. Harassing teammates is never okay.
Furthermore, just because people don't like to be harassed doesn't mean they are egotistical. Nobody likes being harassed, some people just allow more of it than others. If anything, I'd argue the more you ignore harassment and don't stand up for yourself, the weaker your "mentality" is. If everybody refused to allow teammates to harass them in game, I guarantee you there would be a LOT less harassment in games.
Muting people is never a GOOD option, but sometimes it's a better option than the alternative, unfortunately.
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How is you getting offended by what a random jerk on the internet has to say mean you have a strong mentality?
If you can read it and try to look at it objectively while just ignoring it if it's just stupid is a lot more sensible.Ever since I've started playing league I've noticed people are very sensitive for some reason.Back in the day noone cared if you flamed them lol.
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Refusing to put up with being harassed does not equal being upset by it.
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