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On June 29 2013 06:58 Fionn wrote: I just played three games at 5 FPS~10 FPS.
Fionn New Laptop Fund 2013. My previous computer went from the usual 30 to 15 one morning... that same evening it died
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Get me a job, I get you a laptop. I've already got trouble with the idea of moving across the country and I don't think you'd get me anything outside the US tho.
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On June 29 2013 06:58 Fionn wrote: I just played three games at 5 FPS~10 FPS.
Fionn New Laptop Fund 2013. Guitar can buy us all laptops when he's rich and famous.
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I'm with Bell at the moment and used to be with Telus. I don't know about any of those newer companies like Wind or Koodo really.
I've found each one fucks you in their own special way so I'm not sure it matters which one you go with.
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On June 29 2013 06:32 Numy wrote: Junglers that "tax lanes" are the worst kind of scum. Do so much work to come back in lane only to have jungle come and help "push lane" taking all the farm leaving me behind again after all that effort
That's such a silly blanket statement. There's so many times someone is "freezing the lane" (spoiler: they aren't), and I push it up. The enemy team misses all the xp and gold when it gets shoved to turret and your team gets it. I haven't seen but maybe 3-4 people in all my time in ranked that freeze a lane properly. Could be a legit issue at Diamond tier, but I'm not there yet so idk.
You get your ganks, you pay your taxes.
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fabby has more viewers than diamondprox.
im not sure if i should cry or laugh.
Brian Wyllie @TSMTheOddOne I lost of part of my soul when Dyrus asked "whos grubby", WHYYYYYYYY DYRUS WHYYYY
also fkn LOL.
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The best is when the laner dies in lane for free to the enemy laner with the wave pushed to his own turret. Then the jungler comes in and soaks up the free gold/XP and the dead laner is furiously pinging the jungler telling him to not steal the farm.
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On June 29 2013 07:17 Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 06:32 Numy wrote: Junglers that "tax lanes" are the worst kind of scum. Do so much work to come back in lane only to have jungle come and help "push lane" taking all the farm leaving me behind again after all that effort That's such a silly blanket statement. There's so many times someone is "freezing the lane" (spoiler: they aren't), and I push it up. The enemy team misses all the xp and gold when it gets shoved to turret and your team gets it. I haven't seen but maybe 3-4 people in all my time in ranked that freeze a lane properly. Could be a legit issue at Diamond tier, but I'm not there yet so idk. You get your ganks, you pay your taxes.
Its not even necessarily taxing.
Most people I see bitching about lane taxing is people getting dumpstered in lane because they dont understand how to control a creep wave.
If you push enemy laner out of lane/kill, you want to deny him as much XP/gold as possible by shoving wave to tower, as well as give yourself a chance to go buy as well. If you even in CS, your jungler kills enemy laner, and then you just stay in lane and dont buy while freezing lane, unless you already had a big item advantage enemy laner comes back with more items than you because you didn't get to buy. Sure you have more gold but he has more items and can punish you big time, especially if there something else jungler needs to be doing or if he has a much bigger wave of creeps than you.
I'd say only like 5-10% of the time when people bitch about a jungler lane taxing is the jungler making the wrong decision in terms of global gold and map pressure.
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On June 29 2013 06:55 Sufficiency wrote:Going off topic here.... can anyone recommend me a cellphone company? I need a new smartphone + plan (with contracts probably?).... Toronto area..... + Show Spoiler + Make sure it has a Snapdragon Processor!
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On June 29 2013 07:27 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 06:55 Sufficiency wrote:Going off topic here.... can anyone recommend me a cellphone company? I need a new smartphone + plan (with contracts probably?).... Toronto area..... + Show Spoiler + Make sure it has a Snapdragon Processor!
Oh snap it's even more on topic now!
On June 29 2013 07:14 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm with Bell at the moment and used to be with Telus. I don't know about any of those newer companies like Wind or Koodo really.
I've found each one fucks you in their own special way so I'm not sure it matters which one you go with.
Yeah.... 
I am mostly curious about the newer companies to be honest.
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The problem is the "half taxer" who pushes the lane (typically top) like 3 teemos past river then mysteriously stops.
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My favorite thing to do when I play AD / Top / Mid is to walk by a jungle camp alongside the jungler, help him do it and then walk away. I'm pretty sure it makes the jungler really mad for a little bit and then really glad. Theres been so many times when I walk away when the creep is low and the jungler just stops attacking thinking to give it to me and then we yell at each other in chat rofl.
I also love typing "amumu take red, you need the exp" when I'm playing ADC. I might even walk over there and help him then walk away. This is because 1) its true, 2) i dont need it cuz i never lose lane and i dont have attack speed early so its not that great on me, 3) amumu was gonna take red anyways cuz hes a piece of shit, 4) not all above statements are completely true.
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On June 29 2013 07:23 kainzero wrote: The best is when the laner dies in lane for free to the enemy laner with the wave pushed to his own turret. Then the jungler comes in and soaks up the free gold/XP and the dead laner is furiously pinging the jungler telling him to not steal the farm. Well, if you lose all that farm you're pretty much fucked. If the jungler doesn't touch it, chances are that you get at least some of the turret minions and also get like the next wave or 2 that come afterwards.
If the jungler just instakills all the minions, the opponent can freeze at his turret and the lane's completely gg for you.
Dying with a large minion wave pushing towards your turret is pretty much the worst thing that can ever happen to you in your lane and it's usually impossible to come back from. 6 vs 40 minions, lvl 3 vs 5 are very common situations.
If the jungler takes minions, he better be damn sure that the wave reaches the enemy turret fully.
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On June 29 2013 07:19 Mensol wrote: fabby has more viewers than diamondprox.
im not sure if i should cry or laugh.
That's because fabbbyyy is a god and diamondprox is a mere mortal.
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On June 29 2013 07:23 kainzero wrote: The best is when the laner dies in lane for free to the enemy laner with the wave pushed to his own turret. Then the jungler comes in and soaks up the free gold/XP and the dead laner is furiously pinging the jungler telling him to not steal the farm. I saw that a lot when leveling an account through gold. It just turns me crazy :o
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On June 29 2013 07:30 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 07:23 kainzero wrote: The best is when the laner dies in lane for free to the enemy laner with the wave pushed to his own turret. Then the jungler comes in and soaks up the free gold/XP and the dead laner is furiously pinging the jungler telling him to not steal the farm. Well, if you lose all that farm you're pretty much fucked. If the jungler doesn't touch it, chances are that you get at least some of the turret minions and also get like the next wave or 2 that come afterwards. If the jungler just instakills all the minions, the opponent can freeze at his turret and the lane's completely gg for you. Dying with a large minion wave pushing towards your turret is pretty much the worst thing that can ever happen to you in your lane and it's usually impossible to come back from. 6 vs 40 minions, lvl 3 vs 5 are very common situations.
In the majority of matchups though, that just shouldn't happen in the first place. Considering everyone stgarts with wards there is zero excuse to not match other laners pushing, or if you can't just zone him because he used his skills to shove lane and you used yours to just kill him.
Only excuse for that is their jungler interfering, and even then their jungler probably taxed the wave to do so, and you likely saw him through a ward and could have seen dive coming. And if you didn't, either buy more wards or get better map awareness derp.
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Who's Grubby?
Also ideally when shoving you want to make the remnants reach tower range so that when they clash with the next enemy wave, the clash lasts long enough that your own wave reaches it and dies to the tower too, to reset it or even ideally make it push towards you (if it dies fast enough that the enemy wave has surviving minions), is that right?
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Alaric, I am disappoint.
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It's 'k he added a few characters this time, we'll get him to actually make posts at some point. I'm proud of you, Neo. Kinda.
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