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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 28 2013 23:36 GMT
#4861
On June 29 2013 08:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 08:31 AsnSensation wrote:
On June 29 2013 08:29 Dgiese wrote:
On June 29 2013 08:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 29 2013 08:20 Alaric wrote:
Boxer has more the image of an innovator, that guy who was so ahead that he could think up all kind of stuff, make it work, and thus improving the understanding of the game/tactics somehow, rather than a "dominant" kind of guy. I mean, Flash did a lot of innovation too (cf. the evolution of TvZ, notably late game) but he has the image of that super efficient dude rather than the one coming up with ground-breaking ideas. Screw you ninja Neo.

I tend to keep blue if I need it for level 6 (if I was playing more stuff like Xin/Udyr maybe I wouldn't do it as much, but when it's mainly Naut/Vi... ) but apart from that if I notice our jungle being behind I often tell me "just keep this one, you need the exp" when he pings it for me. Maybe I wouldn't do it when playing Swain, but as Viktor it just means I roam less because I spend more time shoving then backing for mana.

Is there an echo in here?

Alaric, I am disappoint.

IMO Boxer is a poor comparison... he was more innovative than dominant.

Also, I just noticed the new TL Banner. Yay for Gay Horsies!.


hover over it with your mouse, you'll be excited.

It is a lie!
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I was so amused when people in TL General Subforum thought it was TL's way of announcing we were starting to cover LoL. zzz


All the animals are equal, just some are less equal than the others.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 28 2013 23:43 GMT
#4862
Can someone tell me how people get such inflated mmr? One of my friends was at gold 4 yesterday and now he's gold 1 with like 15 wins. It takes me like 15 wins just to get into my fucking promos. He was literally winning 3 games in a row to go from 0 lp to promos. In 3 games I go from 0 lp to 57. The kicker is he was stuck in silver 1 and failed his promo 3 times before he got into gold, and now he's getting ~30 lp per win while I'm getting ~15. It's so frustrating because he thinks he's better than me for ranking up faster when I know for a fact i'm a better player lol.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 23:47:32
June 28 2013 23:47 GMT
#4863
you sound jelly

if he's higher than u he's better than u why are you so insecure
TranslatorBaa!
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
June 28 2013 23:49 GMT
#4864
On June 29 2013 08:43 IMoperator wrote:
Can someone tell me how people get such inflated mmr? One of my friends was at gold 4 yesterday and now he's gold 1 with like 15 wins. It takes me like 15 wins just to get into my fucking promos. He was literally winning 3 games in a row to go from 0 lp to promos. In 3 games I go from 0 lp to 57. The kicker is he was stuck in silver 1 and failed his promo 3 times before he got into gold, and now he's getting ~30 lp per win while I'm getting ~15. It's so frustrating because he thinks he's better than me for ranking up faster when I know for a fact i'm a better player lol.



Hard to tell when it's invisible now. I've hardly played any ranked games this season and I was playing vs diamond 1-4s when I did play (as a plat 4 with ~15 games). From smurfing though, it seems like your mmr raises faster than your visible rating if you go on a big winstreak - I went from playing vs bronze 3-4 people to silver 2-3 in about a 25 game period
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 29 2013 00:01 GMT
#4865
On June 29 2013 08:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
you sound jelly

if he's higher than u he's better than u why are you so insecure

rawflez, is dat you?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 29 2013 00:02 GMT
#4866
On June 29 2013 08:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
@kainzero: Considering on 3.8, if your Jungler is behind, he might need the Golem exp to catch up in levels. It's not that strange tbh.

Playing with blue against someone without blue can be a huge exercise in frustration and could cause you to lose the lane. The jungler already "lost" so you're gambling your lane against him coming back.

Furthermore, if you're a good mid roamer, blue helps you shove out waves or even counter the enemy mid shoving and roaming. A gank involving jungler and mid is more potent than a "catching-up" jungler.

The cases in which jungler takes second blue should be extremely rare, which the only opportunity I can think of is if they need level 6.



nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 29 2013 00:05 GMT
#4867
On June 29 2013 09:02 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 08:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
@kainzero: Considering on 3.8, if your Jungler is behind, he might need the Golem exp to catch up in levels. It's not that strange tbh.

Playing with blue against someone without blue can be a huge exercise in frustration and could cause you to lose the lane. The jungler already "lost" so you're gambling your lane against him coming back.

Furthermore, if you're a good mid roamer, blue helps you shove out waves or even counter the enemy mid shoving and roaming. A gank involving jungler and mid is more potent than a "catching-up" jungler.

The cases in which jungler takes second blue should be extremely rare, which the only opportunity I can think of is if they need level 6.





Same way it depends a lot on the matchups in mid.With most you can just farm but you won't be able to roam without blue.It really isn't that big of a deal.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
June 29 2013 00:08 GMT
#4868
On June 29 2013 09:05 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 09:02 kainzero wrote:
On June 29 2013 08:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
@kainzero: Considering on 3.8, if your Jungler is behind, he might need the Golem exp to catch up in levels. It's not that strange tbh.

Playing with blue against someone without blue can be a huge exercise in frustration and could cause you to lose the lane. The jungler already "lost" so you're gambling your lane against him coming back.

Furthermore, if you're a good mid roamer, blue helps you shove out waves or even counter the enemy mid shoving and roaming. A gank involving jungler and mid is more potent than a "catching-up" jungler.

The cases in which jungler takes second blue should be extremely rare, which the only opportunity I can think of is if they need level 6.

Same way it depends a lot on the matchups in mid.With most you can just farm but you won't be able to roam without blue.It really isn't that big of a deal.

BUT DUDE HE'S MID HE'S GOT TO CARRY THE JUNGLER CAN GO EAT A SHEEP.
Amirite ?

Seriously, just give junglers a break and leave them blue buffs.
The legend of Darien lives on
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
June 29 2013 00:11 GMT
#4869
=( I hate that jungler have to donate buffs and can't get donated lane farm t.t.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 00:15:31
June 29 2013 00:14 GMT
#4870
On June 29 2013 09:11 KissBlade wrote:
=( I hate that jungler have to donate buffs and can't get donated lane farm t.t.

Donate it to yourself.

Don't forget to /mute all before though !

EDIT :
Trying out Karma, 2 questions.

What are you guys maxing second.
What are you guys building.
The legend of Darien lives on
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
June 29 2013 00:16 GMT
#4871
On June 29 2013 09:14 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 09:11 KissBlade wrote:
=( I hate that jungler have to donate buffs and can't get donated lane farm t.t.

Donate it to yourself.

Don't forget to /mute all before though !

EDIT :
Trying out Karma, 2 questions.

What are you guys maxing second.
What are you guys building.



Usually I take blue if I notice the opposing jungler also didn't donate. Mainly because whenever I donate it, it doesn't seem to make that huge of difference vs a non blued mid. In fact, sometimes the laner ends up over aggro-ing and just gets ganked and gives our blue away =(.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 29 2013 00:17 GMT
#4872
Must say, I love the jungle changes.

Increase in XP per camp is huuuge. I can just play Udyr and Shyvana all day again and be the highest level in the game
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 00:21:01
June 29 2013 00:20 GMT
#4873
fsfs
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9144 Posts
June 29 2013 00:25 GMT
#4874
Paging all Koreans:

Where the hell can we watch AIMAG this weekend?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 29 2013 00:25 GMT
#4875
On June 29 2013 09:14 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 09:11 KissBlade wrote:
=( I hate that jungler have to donate buffs and can't get donated lane farm t.t.

Donate it to yourself.

Don't forget to /mute all before though !

EDIT :
Trying out Karma, 2 questions.

What are you guys maxing second.
What are you guys building.


QEW for me.

Might be a playstyle thing, but I hate W, and rarely am in range for it. Sometimes I start Q>W but E max is stronger IMO.

I also am a mid scrub though...
Freeeeeeedom
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 29 2013 00:27 GMT
#4876
On June 29 2013 08:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
you sound jelly

if he's higher than u he's better than u why are you so insecure

but he's not better than me, i've played with him a lot lol. Somehow he just gets +30 for wins and then -10 for losses, because like I said, his mmr is ridiculously high.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 29 2013 00:28 GMT
#4877
On June 29 2013 09:11 KissBlade wrote:
=( I hate that jungler have to donate buffs and can't get donated lane farm t.t.

Give me blue, let's shove out mid then go roam and gank top.
Everyone wins.

I also have to say that my least favorite position to play is ADC because of how awkward it is to buy wards because of positioning (you can't roam to put down wards as easy as any of the other positions) and because of inventory space.

My friends have called me weird because I like being a team player and because I make decisions based on ideal team play.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 29 2013 00:28 GMT
#4878
On June 29 2013 09:27 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 08:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
you sound jelly

if he's higher than u he's better than u why are you so insecure

but he's not better than me, i've played with him a lot lol. Somehow he just gets +30 for wins and then -10 for losses, because like I said, his mmr is ridiculously high.

Well he somehow had to attain this Elo in the first place, y'know...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 29 2013 00:35 GMT
#4879
On June 29 2013 09:28 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 09:27 IMoperator wrote:
On June 29 2013 08:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
you sound jelly

if he's higher than u he's better than u why are you so insecure

but he's not better than me, i've played with him a lot lol. Somehow he just gets +30 for wins and then -10 for losses, because like I said, his mmr is ridiculously high.

Well he somehow had to attain this Elo in the first place, y'know...

Well he duos a lot, i'm just gonna bet that's it. He plays mostly support and duos with an adc who is already plat.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 00:38:39
June 29 2013 00:38 GMT
#4880
I think I'll forever be #17 on twitch.tv LoL streams :o How would I love to break in the top 11, to be directly visible when you click LoL...

I'm thinking of doing an English only stream day. Would some of you guys watch me if I were to speak English ? <3
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