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On June 19 2013 00:14 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 00:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:50 WhiteDog wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah.  Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Lol I don't understand why you are hurting yourself so hard. It's just a game, take pleasure into it or just don't play it. There are no shame in being bad at a game. A good way to improve is to just pick one champion or a few number of champions. I've done it, carried me to Gold II in a hearthbeat (like 50 to 70 game with either Diana or Ahri, playing leona or zyra sup if I could not go mid). Now I clearly see the difference in level : I tried to pick some other champ and demoted back to Gold V so fast, then picked Ahri back and won 10 game in a row. When you are bad - like me - focussing on one champ gives you some kind of comfort that really influence your play and helps you focus on improving yourself. Don't worry, I always enjoy playing, I just know I'm a baddie. That's what I've started doing lately. Always Sej in the jungle, always Janna support, and that's pretty much what I always play. I'm noticing improvements already.  On June 18 2013 23:56 ArchAngelSC wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Maybe you are but maybe you're not, as I don't know you I can't comment and so I'll comment on myself instead. I'm also at the level (gold III) where I look around at the people I'm playing with and think "wow these guys are truly awful" when they make really stupid decisions (both in game play and in item builds) and I do not believe myself to be as bad as the people I play with for two reasons. Firstly I'm not making the same retarded decisions they make. Secondly I have a greater than 50% win rate. And having that in a system that is specifically designed to keep you at 50% as well as having 80% of your team being composed of those awful players, is actually a pretty huge deal. So yes, while I'm not challenger level good, I still believe I'm better than where I'm currently at. So you guys shouldn't put yourselves down so much just because you are playing with bad players. I think I have an <50% winrate at this point. So yeah... I am interested to see how much I can improve in the two weeks that I will be home (July 15-July 28 SO SOOON). For this I decided to pick a few champs for each role. top/mid: Kat, Karthus, Kayle Jungle: Eve, Nasus Support: Blitzcrank, Janna ADC: Tristana Of course. This list might change depending on what patch it will be when I am home. I know Brand and LB might get buffed and those are two of my favorite characters.
Karthus is the funniest mid you can play in ranked. You just farm, don't care if you die a lot, farm, and then in the late game you are always relevant just because below plat everybody seems to love running on your defile.
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On June 18 2013 22:31 bmn wrote:
Are these numbers really right?
- 64.7% of teams with a gold lead at 10 minutes going on to win the game
- At 10 minutes the gold lead went to the Purple team 76.4% of the time
- The Blue team wins 60% of the games
yes thhey are right for the NA lcs you can see the data here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AllLJAxUt7qcdHk1VHEzUFFjZEI3NTZ6Vlk5UFZpVWc#gid=5
On June 18 2013 22:48 Simberto wrote:
You have to remember that this is data out of 20 games. 60% sounds a lot more impressive then 12 out of 20 games.
Actually, that also makes me wonder a bit how you got numbers like 64.7% or 76.4%. I assume you only counted gold leads of some significance there?
there were 3 ties in the gold adv at 10 min. so for example i think 64.7 is 11/17 , 11 went on to win. .. you can see the gold advantage numbers to teh right over on this one : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AllLJAxUt7qcdHk1VHEzUFFjZEI3NTZ6Vlk5UFZpVWc#gid=5
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On June 19 2013 00:17 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 00:14 JonGalt wrote:On June 19 2013 00:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:50 WhiteDog wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Lol I don't understand why you are hurting yourself so hard. It's just a game, take pleasure into it or just don't play it. There are no shame in being bad at a game. A good way to improve is to just pick one champion or a few number of champions. I've done it, carried me to Gold II in a hearthbeat (like 50 to 70 game with either Diana or Ahri, playing leona or zyra sup if I could not go mid). Now I clearly see the difference in level : I tried to pick some other champ and demoted back to Gold V so fast, then picked Ahri back and won 10 game in a row. When you are bad - like me - focussing on one champ gives you some kind of comfort that really influence your play and helps you focus on improving yourself. Don't worry, I always enjoy playing, I just know I'm a baddie. That's what I've started doing lately. Always Sej in the jungle, always Janna support, and that's pretty much what I always play. I'm noticing improvements already. On June 18 2013 23:56 ArchAngelSC wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Maybe you are but maybe you're not, as I don't know you I can't comment and so I'll comment on myself instead. I'm also at the level (gold III) where I look around at the people I'm playing with and think "wow these guys are truly awful" when they make really stupid decisions (both in game play and in item builds) and I do not believe myself to be as bad as the people I play with for two reasons. Firstly I'm not making the same retarded decisions they make. Secondly I have a greater than 50% win rate. And having that in a system that is specifically designed to keep you at 50% as well as having 80% of your team being composed of those awful players, is actually a pretty huge deal. So yes, while I'm not challenger level good, I still believe I'm better than where I'm currently at. So you guys shouldn't put yourselves down so much just because you are playing with bad players. I think I have an <50% winrate at this point. So yeah... I am interested to see how much I can improve in the two weeks that I will be home (July 15-July 28 SO SOOON). For this I decided to pick a few champs for each role. top/mid: Kat, Karthus, Kayle Jungle: Eve, Nasus Support: Blitzcrank, Janna ADC: Tristana Of course. This list might change depending on what patch it will be when I am home. I know Brand and LB might get buffed and those are two of my favorite characters. Karthus is the funniest mid you can play in ranked. You just farm, don't care if you die a lot, farm, and then in the late game you are always relevant just because below plat everybody seems to love running on your defile.
My friend is doing that with Zyra mid. People in Silver/Gold stack up and chase like cancer, right into roots+Zyra ult and then forget she has a Zhonya. Then she dies and takes out people with her, while her plants are still doing work. It's even worse than chasing Rumble into the jungle. I can see why Amumu and Malphite are still perma banned.
Seriously my former WoW raid leaders would have been proud at how well these random pubs stack up in chaotic fights.
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On June 19 2013 00:17 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 00:14 JonGalt wrote:On June 19 2013 00:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:50 WhiteDog wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Lol I don't understand why you are hurting yourself so hard. It's just a game, take pleasure into it or just don't play it. There are no shame in being bad at a game. A good way to improve is to just pick one champion or a few number of champions. I've done it, carried me to Gold II in a hearthbeat (like 50 to 70 game with either Diana or Ahri, playing leona or zyra sup if I could not go mid). Now I clearly see the difference in level : I tried to pick some other champ and demoted back to Gold V so fast, then picked Ahri back and won 10 game in a row. When you are bad - like me - focussing on one champ gives you some kind of comfort that really influence your play and helps you focus on improving yourself. Don't worry, I always enjoy playing, I just know I'm a baddie. That's what I've started doing lately. Always Sej in the jungle, always Janna support, and that's pretty much what I always play. I'm noticing improvements already. On June 18 2013 23:56 ArchAngelSC wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Maybe you are but maybe you're not, as I don't know you I can't comment and so I'll comment on myself instead. I'm also at the level (gold III) where I look around at the people I'm playing with and think "wow these guys are truly awful" when they make really stupid decisions (both in game play and in item builds) and I do not believe myself to be as bad as the people I play with for two reasons. Firstly I'm not making the same retarded decisions they make. Secondly I have a greater than 50% win rate. And having that in a system that is specifically designed to keep you at 50% as well as having 80% of your team being composed of those awful players, is actually a pretty huge deal. So yes, while I'm not challenger level good, I still believe I'm better than where I'm currently at. So you guys shouldn't put yourselves down so much just because you are playing with bad players. I think I have an <50% winrate at this point. So yeah... I am interested to see how much I can improve in the two weeks that I will be home (July 15-July 28 SO SOOON). For this I decided to pick a few champs for each role. top/mid: Kat, Karthus, Kayle Jungle: Eve, Nasus Support: Blitzcrank, Janna ADC: Tristana Of course. This list might change depending on what patch it will be when I am home. I know Brand and LB might get buffed and those are two of my favorite characters. Let me know when you're back because I'll be unemployed and we can duo queue like WHOA.
It's a date.
Sorry (maybe not?) to hear about your unemployment. Seems to me the world is telling you to play LoL nonstop and qualify for S4 LCS. Then when I come back to America, you can replace your terribad midlaner (that is clearly a bad influence on the team, causing strife, and the reason you failed to qualify for S5 spring split) with me! We'll qualify for S5 summer split, win worlds, and fulfill our prophecy of being the NA foreigner hope.
Team name: Garenteed Viktory
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On June 19 2013 00:29 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 00:17 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 19 2013 00:14 JonGalt wrote:On June 19 2013 00:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:50 WhiteDog wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Lol I don't understand why you are hurting yourself so hard. It's just a game, take pleasure into it or just don't play it. There are no shame in being bad at a game. A good way to improve is to just pick one champion or a few number of champions. I've done it, carried me to Gold II in a hearthbeat (like 50 to 70 game with either Diana or Ahri, playing leona or zyra sup if I could not go mid). Now I clearly see the difference in level : I tried to pick some other champ and demoted back to Gold V so fast, then picked Ahri back and won 10 game in a row. When you are bad - like me - focussing on one champ gives you some kind of comfort that really influence your play and helps you focus on improving yourself. Don't worry, I always enjoy playing, I just know I'm a baddie. That's what I've started doing lately. Always Sej in the jungle, always Janna support, and that's pretty much what I always play. I'm noticing improvements already. On June 18 2013 23:56 ArchAngelSC wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Maybe you are but maybe you're not, as I don't know you I can't comment and so I'll comment on myself instead. I'm also at the level (gold III) where I look around at the people I'm playing with and think "wow these guys are truly awful" when they make really stupid decisions (both in game play and in item builds) and I do not believe myself to be as bad as the people I play with for two reasons. Firstly I'm not making the same retarded decisions they make. Secondly I have a greater than 50% win rate. And having that in a system that is specifically designed to keep you at 50% as well as having 80% of your team being composed of those awful players, is actually a pretty huge deal. So yes, while I'm not challenger level good, I still believe I'm better than where I'm currently at. So you guys shouldn't put yourselves down so much just because you are playing with bad players. I think I have an <50% winrate at this point. So yeah... I am interested to see how much I can improve in the two weeks that I will be home (July 15-July 28 SO SOOON). For this I decided to pick a few champs for each role. top/mid: Kat, Karthus, Kayle Jungle: Eve, Nasus Support: Blitzcrank, Janna ADC: Tristana Of course. This list might change depending on what patch it will be when I am home. I know Brand and LB might get buffed and those are two of my favorite characters. Let me know when you're back because I'll be unemployed and we can duo queue like WHOA. It's a date. Sorry (maybe not?) to hear about your unemployment. Seems to me the world is telling you to play LoL nonstop and qualify for S4 LCS. Then when I come back to America, you can replace your terribad midlaner (that is clearly a bad influence on the team, causing strife, and the reason you failed to qualify for S5 spring split) with me! We'll qualify for S5 summer split, win worlds, and fulfill our prophecy of being the NA foreigner hope. Team name: Garenteed Viktory
Winning name. And my employment is joyfully self-inflicted. Plus it's beginning my attempt to get into Riot anyways, so I'm good with it.
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Moar TL Rioters!!
Don't forget to submit my champion idea when you get hired
I'd love to work for Riot. Crossing my fingers that my girlfriend gets a job in Santa Monica!!
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On June 19 2013 00:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 00:29 JonGalt wrote:On June 19 2013 00:17 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 19 2013 00:14 JonGalt wrote:On June 19 2013 00:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:50 WhiteDog wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Lol I don't understand why you are hurting yourself so hard. It's just a game, take pleasure into it or just don't play it. There are no shame in being bad at a game. A good way to improve is to just pick one champion or a few number of champions. I've done it, carried me to Gold II in a hearthbeat (like 50 to 70 game with either Diana or Ahri, playing leona or zyra sup if I could not go mid). Now I clearly see the difference in level : I tried to pick some other champ and demoted back to Gold V so fast, then picked Ahri back and won 10 game in a row. When you are bad - like me - focussing on one champ gives you some kind of comfort that really influence your play and helps you focus on improving yourself. Don't worry, I always enjoy playing, I just know I'm a baddie. That's what I've started doing lately. Always Sej in the jungle, always Janna support, and that's pretty much what I always play. I'm noticing improvements already. On June 18 2013 23:56 ArchAngelSC wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Maybe you are but maybe you're not, as I don't know you I can't comment and so I'll comment on myself instead. I'm also at the level (gold III) where I look around at the people I'm playing with and think "wow these guys are truly awful" when they make really stupid decisions (both in game play and in item builds) and I do not believe myself to be as bad as the people I play with for two reasons. Firstly I'm not making the same retarded decisions they make. Secondly I have a greater than 50% win rate. And having that in a system that is specifically designed to keep you at 50% as well as having 80% of your team being composed of those awful players, is actually a pretty huge deal. So yes, while I'm not challenger level good, I still believe I'm better than where I'm currently at. So you guys shouldn't put yourselves down so much just because you are playing with bad players. I think I have an <50% winrate at this point. So yeah... I am interested to see how much I can improve in the two weeks that I will be home (July 15-July 28 SO SOOON). For this I decided to pick a few champs for each role. top/mid: Kat, Karthus, Kayle Jungle: Eve, Nasus Support: Blitzcrank, Janna ADC: Tristana Of course. This list might change depending on what patch it will be when I am home. I know Brand and LB might get buffed and those are two of my favorite characters. Let me know when you're back because I'll be unemployed and we can duo queue like WHOA. It's a date. Sorry (maybe not?) to hear about your unemployment. Seems to me the world is telling you to play LoL nonstop and qualify for S4 LCS. Then when I come back to America, you can replace your terribad midlaner (that is clearly a bad influence on the team, causing strife, and the reason you failed to qualify for S5 spring split) with me! We'll qualify for S5 summer split, win worlds, and fulfill our prophecy of being the NA foreigner hope. Team name: Garenteed Viktory Winning name. And my employment is joyfully self-inflicted. Plus it's beginning my attempt to get into Riot anyways, so I'm good with it.
Ho I hope you'll find your way to Riot man 
On June 19 2013 00:21 Sandster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 00:17 WhiteDog wrote:On June 19 2013 00:14 JonGalt wrote:On June 19 2013 00:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:50 WhiteDog wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Lol I don't understand why you are hurting yourself so hard. It's just a game, take pleasure into it or just don't play it. There are no shame in being bad at a game. A good way to improve is to just pick one champion or a few number of champions. I've done it, carried me to Gold II in a hearthbeat (like 50 to 70 game with either Diana or Ahri, playing leona or zyra sup if I could not go mid). Now I clearly see the difference in level : I tried to pick some other champ and demoted back to Gold V so fast, then picked Ahri back and won 10 game in a row. When you are bad - like me - focussing on one champ gives you some kind of comfort that really influence your play and helps you focus on improving yourself. Don't worry, I always enjoy playing, I just know I'm a baddie. That's what I've started doing lately. Always Sej in the jungle, always Janna support, and that's pretty much what I always play. I'm noticing improvements already. On June 18 2013 23:56 ArchAngelSC wrote:On June 18 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 18 2013 23:40 Alaric wrote:Y'know, all these terrible Ezreal who build blue without even thinking about lane match-ups, team comps, if they're ahead or not, etc.? You see them because they're at your level. Or you're at theirs. So yeah. Since my decision-making is way ahead of my mechanics (relatively speaking, both are meh at best) I can easily point out dumb shit that my teammates do, but when they see an opportunity they are able to capitalise on it, while I may not throw/feed as much but I barely "dare" because I'm not confident in what I get away with. In the end I'll never end up carrying and I find myself relying on these players to make the plays I set them up for. Which is another way of being bad. I know, right? The sad part about it is looking at this people who are making asinine decisions or blatantly don't know shit and remembering "I'M JUST AS BAD." Maybe you are but maybe you're not, as I don't know you I can't comment and so I'll comment on myself instead. I'm also at the level (gold III) where I look around at the people I'm playing with and think "wow these guys are truly awful" when they make really stupid decisions (both in game play and in item builds) and I do not believe myself to be as bad as the people I play with for two reasons. Firstly I'm not making the same retarded decisions they make. Secondly I have a greater than 50% win rate. And having that in a system that is specifically designed to keep you at 50% as well as having 80% of your team being composed of those awful players, is actually a pretty huge deal. So yes, while I'm not challenger level good, I still believe I'm better than where I'm currently at. So you guys shouldn't put yourselves down so much just because you are playing with bad players. I think I have an <50% winrate at this point. So yeah... I am interested to see how much I can improve in the two weeks that I will be home (July 15-July 28 SO SOOON). For this I decided to pick a few champs for each role. top/mid: Kat, Karthus, Kayle Jungle: Eve, Nasus Support: Blitzcrank, Janna ADC: Tristana Of course. This list might change depending on what patch it will be when I am home. I know Brand and LB might get buffed and those are two of my favorite characters. Karthus is the funniest mid you can play in ranked. You just farm, don't care if you die a lot, farm, and then in the late game you are always relevant just because below plat everybody seems to love running on your defile. My friend is doing that with Zyra mid. People in Silver/Gold stack up and chase like cancer, right into roots+Zyra ult and then forget she has a Zhonya. Then she dies and takes out people with her, while her plants are still doing work. It's even worse than chasing Rumble into the jungle. I can see why Amumu and Malphite are still perma banned. Seriously my former WoW raid leaders would have been proud at how well these random pubs stack up in chaotic fights.
Yeah I like Zyra but I'm bad with her. I tend to play more mobile and solid champions, so that when I play Zyra I always end up getting one shotted. Same for Karthus, but his passiv is just so good
I feel like it's a problem of positionning, I always go too far, and if you don't play a champ with a easy way out (hello Ahri) or a strong dueling, I just die ridiculously.
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Yeah...mid/adc players know how to deal with this fragility. I can't, and therefore can't play carries. Even when I top lane Kennen I build rylai and other bulkier items. I get so envious of those guys who get deathcap + void staff and get quadra kills, but that's not my playstyle.
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On June 19 2013 00:43 Sandster wrote:
Yeah...mid/adc players know how to deal with this fragility. I can't, and therefore can't play carries. Even when I top lane Kennen I build rylai and other bulkier items. I get so envious of those guys who get deathcap + void staff and get quadra kills, but that's not my playstyle.
dring -> dcap ori is kind of hilarious as a "fragile" ap mid, cause her shield is monstrous if you get some fast ap and people always seem to underestimate a good ult into WQ
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On June 18 2013 22:31 bmn wrote:
Are these numbers really right?
- 64.7% of teams with a gold lead at 10 minutes going on to win the game
- At 10 minutes the gold lead went to the Purple team 76.4% of the time
- The Blue team wins 60% of the games
I think I heard a statistic last split that if a team is up 10%(or was it 20%?) at 12 minutes they had a 90% chance of winning.
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So, is there anything that works against Zac top? Or do you just need to always ban him in soloqueue if you are not firstpick?
No way to threaten him in lane, absurd engage, absurd escape, absurd sustain, absurd tankiness, absurd damage. Same for jungle, just add absurd ganks in there.
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On June 18 2013 23:50 ticklishmusic wrote:
Holy crap, Quinn is stupidly snowbally in bot lane. My AD duo has been playing a lot of her, I've been supporting with Leona. At lvl 2 you have basically a 150 damage auto with Sunlight/Harrier proc-- no one expects the damage, so its almost a guaranteed kill.
I was playing (Kha) against Quinn mid sometime last week or something.. I had no idea Quinn had that kind of damage. The first couple levels were BRUTAL and I was getting smashed until level 8 or something. Then I farmed her
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On June 19 2013 01:06 Masq wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 23:50 ticklishmusic wrote:
Holy crap, Quinn is stupidly snowbally in bot lane. My AD duo has been playing a lot of her, I've been supporting with Leona. At lvl 2 you have basically a 150 damage auto with Sunlight/Harrier proc-- no one expects the damage, so its almost a guaranteed kill.
I was playing (Kha) against Quinn mid sometime last week or something.. I had no idea Quinn had that kind of damage. The first couple levels were BRUTAL and I was getting smashed until level 8 or something. Then I farmed her
To be fair though...every ranged with a disengage absolutely dumps on Kha early.
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On June 19 2013 01:06 Masq wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 23:50 ticklishmusic wrote:
Holy crap, Quinn is stupidly snowbally in bot lane. My AD duo has been playing a lot of her, I've been supporting with Leona. At lvl 2 you have basically a 150 damage auto with Sunlight/Harrier proc-- no one expects the damage, so its almost a guaranteed kill.
I was playing (Kha) against Quinn mid sometime last week or something.. I had no idea Quinn had that kind of damage. The first couple levels were BRUTAL and I was getting smashed until level 8 or something. Then I farmed her
So typical Kha game
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i typically do well early game as kha once you hit 2 or 3 
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It's easy to assume you have good decision-making. When it comes to mechanics you're either good or you're not, and it's very easy to recognize it on your own.
When you look at your teammate and they're about to do something dumb, you may not put yourself in their shoes. For example, when I'm playing AD carry, my awareness is poor. I've been ganked over wards in the most obvious way. But when I'm jungler, I have supreme map awareness and I can call out ganks from anywhere on the map.
Someone might engage when they shouldn't have, because they didn't know how strong the other hero is because they didn't lane against them. Maybe they overestimated their own strength, or underestimated who they're trying to kill.
When you're observing someone, you don't carry the same mindset or the same mental weight that they do when they're playing, so it's easy to overrate your decision making and make fun of other people.
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On June 19 2013 00:59 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 22:31 bmn wrote:
Are these numbers really right?
- 64.7% of teams with a gold lead at 10 minutes going on to win the game
- At 10 minutes the gold lead went to the Purple team 76.4% of the time
- The Blue team wins 60% of the games
I think I heard a statistic last split that if a team is up 10%(or was it 20%?) at 12 minutes they had a 90% chance of winning.
It really depends on the relative skill levels of the teams involved.
If there is a big gap between skill levels (so that the best team always beats the second best always beats the third best), then the team that has a gold advantage at 10 minutes will always go on to win the game, simply because they were the better team throughout the entire game. On the other hand, if your teams are as good at throwing as NA is, the 10 minute advantage is going to mean a lot less.
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On June 19 2013 02:04 kainzero wrote:
It's easy to assume you have good decision-making. When it comes to mechanics you're either good or you're not, and it's very easy to recognize it on your own.
When you look at your teammate and they're about to do something dumb, you may not put yourself in their shoes. For example, when I'm playing AD carry, my awareness is poor. I've been ganked over wards in the most obvious way. But when I'm jungler, I have supreme map awareness and I can call out ganks from anywhere on the map.
Someone might engage when they shouldn't have, because they didn't know how strong the other hero is because they didn't lane against them. Maybe they overestimated their own strength, or underestimated who they're trying to kill.
When you're observing someone, you don't carry the same mindset or the same mental weight that they do when they're playing, so it's easy to overrate your decision making and make fun of other people.
Don't forget the selection bias of instantly forgetting those instances you made bad decisions and/or blaming it on other people not doing the right thing, while always remembering the situations where you did something really good and it worked out.
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Good god nothing is funnier than an Aatrox with a Ga.
Get caught, rest of team runs away. We camp the body for like 15 seconds.
InB4 Atroxx, Zilean, Yorik comps.
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On June 19 2013 02:21 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 00:59 Gahlo wrote:On June 18 2013 22:31 bmn wrote:
Are these numbers really right?
- 64.7% of teams with a gold lead at 10 minutes going on to win the game
- At 10 minutes the gold lead went to the Purple team 76.4% of the time
- The Blue team wins 60% of the games
I think I heard a statistic last split that if a team is up 10%(or was it 20%?) at 12 minutes they had a 90% chance of winning. It really depends on the relative skill levels of the teams involved. If there is a big gap between skill levels (so that the best team always beats the second best always beats the third best), then the team that has a gold advantage at 10 minutes will always go on to win the game, simply because they were the better team throughout the entire game. On the other hand, if your teams are as good at throwing as NA is, the 10 minute advantage is going to mean a lot less.
You could view the gold advantage as a disadvantage because you actually have to use your advantage to get more of an advantage which in turn is a disadvantage because people like to throw away advantages.
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