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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 18 2013 07:20 GMT
#2021
In mid you take advantage of the fact that Quinn is a ridiculously strong roamer so you can get ezpz ganks off on bot lane or top lane and once you have 6 Quinn is really good at invading enemy jungle or defending her own jungle.

In top you're just abusing the fact that ADCs in general have really favorable match ups against a lot of top laners. With that said there are some tops who absolutely ruin Quinn. In either solo lane she's more of a counter-pick than a first pick.

In bot lane your blind is pretty OP. Your ability to win trades with E->auto->Q->auto is sick but lots of supports can fuck you over. At level 6 she has one of, if not the, strongest all-ins for bot lane imo.

There's a thread for Quinn on TL though. I think she's under valued but I dunno if she has much of a place in the current meta other than as a specific counter-pick. She's definitely a niche champion right now no matter what lane you're talking about but she does function fairly reliably as an ADC (I don't play enough top/mid Quinn to know if she's very reliable in those roles).
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
June 18 2013 07:22 GMT
#2022
On June 18 2013 16:12 wussleeQ wrote:
quinn gets absolutely eaten alive by panth. this comes from experience. stupidest lane ever. quinn top is easy. she wins pretty much almost every matchup. only matchup i've gotten wrecked in is pantheon. jayces cause some trouble however. why the sudden interest in quinn from so many people? o_O i remember i was one of the few that mass gamed her after the buffs lol quinn ad is a snowbally lane but it's pretty viable and okay
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Man, I'm really jealous you can play quinn top well. I fell in love with quinn after considering her a complete joke for the longest time, but she so much fun and so strong when you manage to get even the tiniest edge on your opponents. Every time I've tried to play her top I just end up getting completely wrecked, behind a kill/levels, and unable to do anything for the rest of the game though
:3
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 18 2013 07:38 GMT
#2023
On June 18 2013 16:12 wussleeQ wrote:
quinn gets absolutely eaten alive by panth. this comes from experience. stupidest lane ever. quinn top is easy. she wins pretty much almost every matchup. only matchup i've gotten wrecked in is pantheon. jayces cause some trouble however. why the sudden interest in quinn from so many people? o_O i remember i was one of the few that mass gamed her after the buffs lol quinn ad is a snowbally lane but it's pretty viable and okay
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Brag thread is that way sir.
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 18 2013 07:45 GMT
#2024
just showin my results of playing quinn top and what level of play it was at
BW -> League -> CSGO
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 07:59:09
June 18 2013 07:51 GMT
#2025
You'd think Quinn would be more popular than she is, considering that she has all the makings of a solo queue hero. She can duel well and initiate duels on her own, roam well, split-push well, carry well and be played in all three lanes. She's even a lane bully in a lot of them and has a lot of snowball potential.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
June 18 2013 08:05 GMT
#2026
On June 18 2013 16:51 Cheap0 wrote:
You'd think Quinn would be more popular than she is, considering that she has all the makings of a solo queue hero. She can duel well and initiate duels on her own, roam well, split-push well, carry well and be played in all three lanes. She's even a lane bully in a lot of them and has a lot of snowball potential.

It's one of those "why play this when there are easier champions?" issues, I think.
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
June 18 2013 08:13 GMT
#2027
On June 18 2013 16:51 Cheap0 wrote:
You'd think Quinn would be more popular than she is, considering that she has all the makings of a solo queue hero. She can duel well and initiate duels on her own, roam well, split-push well, carry well and be played in all three lanes. She's even a lane bully in a lot of them and has a lot of snowball potential.


Don't forget how easy it is to push lanes deep and get away safely.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 18 2013 09:15 GMT
#2028
just played vs an aatrox and he feels really toxic to play against. that revive is a pain in the ass when you can't do anything but wait for him to come back, comes up faster than pretty much any revive skill ( aatrox 225 anivia 240 zac 300). i also think i had a glitch where he was still attacking me while he was reviving. some stupid stuff.
BW -> League -> CSGO
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 18 2013 09:53 GMT
#2029
My only experience against an Aatrox involved a Nautilus camping the crap out of me when I was Renekton, and despite the Aatrox getting like 6 kills early, I still had kill potential on him 1v1 (he wasn't building stupidly either). He did blow up our Vayne 1v1 (who was pretty fed) though.

If my team can feed you 9 kills (well, mostly me to be honest haha), and I'm still not afraid of you, that's kind of sad.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
June 18 2013 10:59 GMT
#2030
On June 18 2013 18:15 wussleeQ wrote:
just played vs an aatrox and he feels really toxic to play against. that revive is a pain in the ass when you can't do anything but wait for him to come back, comes up faster than pretty much any revive skill ( aatrox 225 anivia 240 zac 300). i also think i had a glitch where he was still attacking me while he was reviving. some stupid stuff.

I played once again Aatrox top yesterday and I left the game mid way to drink something with friends...
I'm not proud of it, but laning against that thing was completly retarded to me. He just push lane nonstop, regen while hitting minions, I harass him to no end and he never goes bellow 25%.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 11:16:04
June 18 2013 11:13 GMT
#2031
On June 18 2013 18:15 wussleeQ wrote:
just played vs an aatrox and he feels really toxic to play against. that revive is a pain in the ass when you can't do anything but wait for him to come back, comes up faster than pretty much any revive skill ( aatrox 225 anivia 240 zac 300). i also think i had a glitch where he was still attacking me while he was reviving. some stupid stuff.

The weakness of that skill is that he loses his attack speed buff, I guess. He can't really do much after using his ult and without the bonus attack speed.

The truly retarded thing about his passive isn't the revive at all, it's the free 50% aspd.


On June 18 2013 19:59 WhiteDog wrote:
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On June 18 2013 18:15 wussleeQ wrote:
just played vs an aatrox and he feels really toxic to play against. that revive is a pain in the ass when you can't do anything but wait for him to come back, comes up faster than pretty much any revive skill ( aatrox 225 anivia 240 zac 300). i also think i had a glitch where he was still attacking me while he was reviving. some stupid stuff.

I played once again Aatrox top yesterday and I left the game mid way to drink something with friends...
I'm not proud of it, but laning against that thing was completly retarded to me. He just push lane nonstop, regen while hitting minions, I harass him to no end and he never goes bellow 25%.

You burst him when he's below 50%.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 18 2013 11:17 GMT
#2032
On June 18 2013 19:59 WhiteDog wrote:
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On June 18 2013 18:15 wussleeQ wrote:
just played vs an aatrox and he feels really toxic to play against. that revive is a pain in the ass when you can't do anything but wait for him to come back, comes up faster than pretty much any revive skill ( aatrox 225 anivia 240 zac 300). i also think i had a glitch where he was still attacking me while he was reviving. some stupid stuff.

I played once again Aatrox top yesterday and I left the game mid way to drink something with friends...
I'm not proud of it, but laning against that thing was completly retarded to me. He just push lane nonstop, regen while hitting minions, I harass him to no end and he never goes bellow 25%.

How is that different from any of the other retarded sustain champs though? Nunu, WW, Vlad, Zac, Trundle, and Cho (and Shen I guess) all pretty much get to the point where they cannot be removed from lane unless they're shit at managing their mana. And sure, Aatrox has no mana so that doesn't apply to him, but the point still stands. Sustain laners have been around forever.
It's your boy Guzma!
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 11:34:14
June 18 2013 11:26 GMT
#2033
On June 18 2013 20:17 Requizen wrote:
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On June 18 2013 19:59 WhiteDog wrote:
On June 18 2013 18:15 wussleeQ wrote:
just played vs an aatrox and he feels really toxic to play against. that revive is a pain in the ass when you can't do anything but wait for him to come back, comes up faster than pretty much any revive skill ( aatrox 225 anivia 240 zac 300). i also think i had a glitch where he was still attacking me while he was reviving. some stupid stuff.

I played once again Aatrox top yesterday and I left the game mid way to drink something with friends...
I'm not proud of it, but laning against that thing was completly retarded to me. He just push lane nonstop, regen while hitting minions, I harass him to no end and he never goes bellow 25%.

How is that different from any of the other retarded sustain champs though? Nunu, WW, Vlad, Zac, Trundle, and Cho (and Shen I guess) all pretty much get to the point where they cannot be removed from lane unless they're shit at managing their mana. And sure, Aatrox has no mana so that doesn't apply to him, but the point still stands. Sustain laners have been around forever.

Yeah maybe it's not different, I rarely play top. Was forced to, felt bored.
Vlad is way easier to lane against tho. His sustain is nowhere near Aatrox's. Same for Cho and Zac. For the others, I've never laned against so I don't know.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 11:37:52
June 18 2013 11:37 GMT
#2034
difference to me is that he plays a different role late game. nunu ends up supporting, vlad ends up being a high damage low cc character, ww doesn't do much, cho is just a cc bot, etc etc aatrox is a just as annoying version of trynd with a lot of sustain in lane and can carry late
BW -> League -> CSGO
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 18 2013 11:50 GMT
#2035
Hecarim+Fiddle+Cho is so gross.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 18 2013 12:00 GMT
#2036
Ive Riven vs aatrox twice now and its the easiest matchup I have.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 18 2013 12:37 GMT
#2037
On June 18 2013 21:00 Osmoses wrote:
Ive Riven vs aatrox twice now and its the easiest matchup I have.


That doesn't really say much though...
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 18 2013 13:13 GMT
#2038
Well considering people still ban him just so your team doesn't pick it I'd say it says a lot lol.
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
June 18 2013 13:21 GMT
#2039
Alright, i posted the finalized version of the stats article talked about earlier on reddit now, you guys can check it out if you want : http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1gkyk8/detailed_analysis_of_lcs_superweek_with_statistics/
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
June 18 2013 13:22 GMT
#2040
I played against an aatrox top with nunu and we just didn't fight at all :\, we were both healing faster then our poke and jungler left us alone
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