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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 07 2013 00:45 GMT
#21
1) The game was brand new and nobody knew what their Elo was unless they heard it from a Rioter. I wanted to be recognized as a good player in the community. TL had a bunch of really high Elo players back then and I somehow got into games with them. We would queue against CLG and the like and everyone made fun of me because I was bad, even though I was in the top 200 in ladder s1.

2) Two things made me improve: Watching reginald 100-0 a rammus with a flash q combo from garen and getting made fun of a lot by good players.

3) You can outplay almost anyone in this game because most people suck and when you stop being able to outplay people your cs and mechanics begin to matter a LOT.

4) At this point? Start by watching a lot of pro games and try to replicate things that you think are fun. Unless you're at the top, you can learn a lot from them just by watching.

5) I just ask anyone I think is good on my friends list.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 01:33:46
June 07 2013 01:32 GMT
#22
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
I've always taken a lot of my enjoyment in games from understanding them better, and improving at them (not necessarily winning, just feeling that I'm playing better than last time) and I tend to commit pretty deep once I'm hooked, so there's a bit of it in the mindset. Went really more tryhard in early-mid s2, when I decided to hop into ranked, and once settled at an Elo use my progress as a measurement of when I play at my best (compared to normals where I'll just play stuff I enjoy even if I'm not proficient with it), and once you hit a wall find what binds you and overcome it to keep raising your Elo.
Once I've reached a plateau in s3 I've switched to just play to improve, and when that happens my rating will raise accordingly (eg. rather than recognise the effectiveness of a change of direction when my Elo rises after it).
I'm not above trolling or doing silly stuff (some people I play with I know we're going to lose horribly before the picks even start and I just don't care) but I keep it to norrmals.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
Since I rely on game knowledge more than mechanics, mostly little stuff/behaviour (for example, knowing when to roam once you win your lane instead of just zoning in s2, manipulating the wave and pushing a bit from the start to deter aggression even with weak early game champs in s3).
Watching TOO when I decided to start jungling, as he was dropping knowledge bombs and talking a lot about game flow and sense at the time; in turn jungling in general enhanced my solo laning (gank timings... ) and game sense.
In general, going from "My game knowledge is superior to most people I play against/I did pretty well this game" to "However you look at it, I'm still one hell of a scrub. I carried this one game entirely, great, what could I still have done better ?".

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
No idea about myself. But when teaching new people, it seems like fun and having their insecurities addressed is important, so:
Find what makes you have fun and build upon it.
Last-hitting will give you the gold to test all those builds you're thinking about, so work on that first.
Noone dying is generally better than you both dying. If you want to win however, learn when you can kill while staying alive.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Understand the game, be it numbers, match-ups, team compositions, synergy. It's time-consuming and a pretty competitive mindset.
Then use that understanding and knowledge to get the most experience and hindsight out of your games, be it during or after them. Past a threshold it's the harder part (I wish I had the perspective to look at my replays without being "polluted" by the memories of what I was thinking during the games).

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
lolwiki mostly. Content available on TL but brewed outside (spellsy's productions, Monte's blog musings) if it counts. Some streams (TOO when he started getting popular for example, tho he switched to entertainment since; Scarra).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GeneticToss
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada188 Posts
June 07 2013 02:07 GMT
#23
1) Well obviously I was just stomping pubs till I got to lvl 30, then I did a couple of ranked (this was season 2). When the season 3 league system came out, I decided to start trying. I got into bronze 1 and since then have made it up to gold 4, been stuck a little while around there. As for why, I'd say since I forever I've always tried to play games to get good, not only for fun. In league of legends specifically, I'd say pub stomping gets boring and I was looking for a bigger challenge. I feel like if I dedicated a little more I could go higher up without too much trouble.

2) Objectives over kills. STOP CHASING AND TAKE THE TURRET MORON. <-- That single piece of advice is pretty huge for a lot of people(myself). Other than that, ward, ward, ward. As for farming/trading etc, I'd say to try stuff out, play agressive and learn from your mistakes. Last hitting for 10 minutes a day in a custom game is probably a great way to improve.

3) Pick a hero, learn it till you can stomp anyone with it and then move on, try the other roles. Try to watch some pro games to pick up how it works and use the available resources (build/counters)

4) ? Intelligent practice. Pick a role, pick 2-3 champs and practice only them until you get good enough, then try to improve specific areas of your gameplay. (Agression/Splitpushing/CS). Like I said earlier 10 minutes of last hitting in customs each time you play is good. Watch replays, especially for teamfights since they get very hectic and look what went wrong/right. LEARN

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)? www.solomid.net or probuilds.net for builds, championselect.net for counters (don't take the result for gospel truth though) and lolesports.com to watch LCS.
nFo on KGS
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 02:49:23
June 07 2013 02:44 GMT
#24
1. I started LoL because I enjoy studying games to see how the pro-scene works and find comparisons between them. Competitive from the start but sub-30 and solo-queue aren't really conducive to this, unlike say, starcraft, where I can at least pretend to copy the pros (and get everything late/wrong admittedly).

2. Every role has to be filled. If you can't carry as AD because of bad supports (or vise versa) then just imagine someone less skilled and less tolerant than you in that duo lane. Your result doesn't improve just because you left the problem to someone else.

3. High elo consists of pro players and one trick ponies (looking at you Shake Lee Sin ). Knowing and enjoying a very small pool of champions is far better than updating to flavour of the months.

4. Go balls deep. Don't be afraid to die. Sure in the short run you might feed a few kills and lose a game or 2 but in the long run you'll learn a lot about what your champion can do. You'd be amazed at the difference between a champions ability to trade and a champions ability to all-in. Jax is the perfect example.

5. Streams, Dyrus' stream was easily the best place of learning for me. LoLwiki is also useful whenever I have a numbers question. Champion guides are nigh useless, most forms of strategy (including itemisation) are category based rather than based on a specific champion. Sometimes you get specific interactions (splitpush shen, lich bane TF, blue ezreal etc). but this is rather rare.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 03:44:53
June 07 2013 03:39 GMT
#25
On June 07 2013 03:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:

1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
After a few games. I wanted to get good and not be sucky for my friends. I don't really care too much about getting a higher division but I do want to get better at the game.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
An insight would be that you want to get out as many autoattacks as possible. Eg. in between spell rotations.
Another few I had a long time ago was that I could just gank people from their tribrush or check their items before ganking, or save my gap closer till they got away.

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
Mute people as soon as they get angry at you.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Experience. Replays help but someone who plays 100 games beats someone who plays 2 games and watches both replays.

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

LoL Wiki. lolking.

I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 07 2013 04:03 GMT
#26
1. Wanted to try out a new game. Went inactive after reaching lv6 for about 6 months. Come back to play with friends. I stereotyped the game as easy with my pinky up. Then I lost a lot. at one point my record was 35-45. Then i was motivated to be good.

2. Harass with my auto attacks? That's when I started dominating everyone in midlane, which I mained for my lv10 to early lv30s. This lead to a plethora of things honestly. I was playing more aggressively and learned about minion retaliation and I was under a lot more situations and learned from them. This and last hitting. I emphasized the importance of last hitting.

3. Well, I tell my friends when they start to last hit and not die. Ignore everybody who insults. Turn camera lock off. Play the plethora of options you are given and not just 1 champion

4. Studying the game. Learn why things are good, why things are popular, why roles are there. Know the game in and out so learning the game is a lot more important imo. Makes you a better decision maker.

5. Solomid guides and lol wiki
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Rowrin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 05:56:31
June 07 2013 05:55 GMT
#27
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
-Since the beginning. Any game I own that has a competitive aspect I play competitively from the start.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
-Farming. In all rts games, starcraft, warcraft, league etc, I find that a lot of players at the start try to be too aggressive when they can just macro or farm to victory. Harass is fun and all, but only if you can use it to deny your opponents farm. In other words, it is pointless to deal damage just for the sake of dealing damage. Either you can kill your opponent, poke them when you are not at risk, or deny their farm while farming yourself. Don't get me wrong, there are clear times to be aggressive, but in the end it is all about who can buy the most stuff the fastest.

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
-Don't play by yourself. If friends didn't push me to play league with them and I started playing on my own I would have stopped after the first few solo games. The community is crap when it comes to welcoming in new players, let alone the people you encounter even as a veteran in solo queue.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
-Playing all the roles. I see too many people who queue up and claim something in champion select "I can only jungle" "mid or feed" etc. And besides this, imo it gives players a better understanding on what they should do to help their team. IE: not pushing the lane. Every time I queue up I can tell who the players that don't know how to jungle. They have no concept of keeping the minions in the middle of the lane for the jungle to gank.

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
-The wiki for specific stats etc.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 19:01:40
June 07 2013 06:11 GMT
#28
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

For me, it was a matter of thinking up random, silly stuff that worked (I enjoy theorycraft immensely!), and then seeing how far I could push those random, silly stuff into the higher tiers. I never stopped being random and silly.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

Understanding the often neglected core mechanics of the game such as timers, cooldowns, gold bounties etc.
CS is king.

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

Buy RP, spend them on good 6.3k champs on sale, get proper rune pages. Other than that, enjoy the 1-30 process.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

Play with better players (catch-22, I know). Watch tournament streams. Make a conscientious effort to improve, rather than just floating along and playing soloQ braindead. Don't get caught up with your ranking/tier and whatnot, that's all bullshit. Don't rage or talk down to teammates, just AFK/leave.

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

LoL Wiki, Skype contacts, in2lol
cool beans
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
June 07 2013 07:36 GMT
#29
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
When I saw TPA play at the finals.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
Watching lots of commentaries, pro players and reading a bit about it.

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
Nearly every champion is capable of winning, no need to buy only those that pro players user (besides Trundle, Viktor and such)

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Practice, but evaluate your play, never blame your teammates even if they were shit, always focus only on your own improvement. Priactice the mechanics as much as you can.

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
Watch tournaments with good commentators, there's everything you need to know.
ggaemo fan
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
June 07 2013 08:19 GMT
#30
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

[B]I have played every game competitively since I started playing Call of Duty 1 in 8th grade. Unfortunately, I didn't get into LoL until after I knew I would be going into the Peace Corps so I have always just played whatever I wanted for fun. Since October, when I started really following TL LoL, I haven't thought about playing LoL with a competitive attitude. I don't see my attitude changing
for a long time. I will always play to improve now.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

I am not actually sure if I have improved as I haven't played in 8 months, but I'd like to think that all the knowledge bombs on TL have helped me. Some things I did pick up before I left for Lesotho:
CS is important
Harassing with auto attacks
Wards wards wards


3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

Explain runes and which ones are a must buy and which are useless
Treat guides as a guide, not gospel
Learn about the items, champions, and make your own informed decisions on item builds
Focus on a small champion pool per role, and choose champions you like to play not just FOTM


4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

Watching replays
Watching streams
Playing with friends better than you
Being familiar with all the roles
Wards wards wards
Get rid of your ego
Have fun when you play!!

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

Solomid.net and probuilds for guides/item builds/lane matchup info. I'd view TL guides more if more of them were kept up to date.

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R11
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada213 Posts
June 07 2013 08:23 GMT
#31
1. Playing with better players who thought it would've been fun to play lvl 30 vs lvl 5.

2. Improving is about understanding a concept and applying it. Playing with friends who are better then you improves the competition + you get to learn a lot from them (both friends and opponents).

3. Play around match ups + objectives. If you lost a game, you could probably figure out why from the you've played the match up or the objective of what you want to accomplished wrong.

4. IMO this game is based off cause and effects established from champions in play, if you want to improve, you need to understand how it will work towards your favour or against you. You improve by making adjustments to how you can either stretch your advantage or mitigate your disadvantages over the course of the game.

5. Friends, Solomid, Streams, Chauster's AMA on CLG (It's less inactive now but I found it very useful because when it came to playstyle and match ups, you could read his insight and apply it to your lane or learn his thought process and try to apply elsewhere.
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
June 07 2013 10:22 GMT
#32
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

When my friends stopped playing SC2

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

After I ragequit for 2 months, I achieved a complete state of inner piece. This has led me to become a much better player

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

Play for your teammates and not despite them.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

Learn the gameplay and philosiphy of a good support first, to achieve good map awareness, zone control and teamplay.

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

Solomid, lolking, mobafire.
Solaris.playgu
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 10:49:41
June 07 2013 10:49 GMT
#33
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
Pretty much from the beginning. Just fooling around all the time simply isn't a lot of fun for me.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
No idea honestly.

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
Don't try to jungle Lee on a level 6 account, it doesn't work ^^

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Analysing your own mistakes and trying to get rid of them. A good replay service would be worth a metric shitton.

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
lolwiki, lolpro, solomid, probuilds & lolking
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 11:06:44
June 07 2013 10:58 GMT
#34
Been playing since beginning of S2, ended it at ~1600, now diamond IV.

1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

I always played to win in ranked. I started ranked regularly about 2 months after hitting 30.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

Trust no one, ignore everyone, lead the team. If you are in a make a play, capitalize as hard as you can on it. If you overcapitalize whatever, but if you never push your advantages, you never know how far you can go. Win lane. If you are two kills and a level up that's enough. Killing the other guy does nothing, kill their jungler, help your jungler do 3-4 man ganks on other lanes, shit on everyone else in the game.

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

CS, take the AD masteries,runes and butcher if you have to but make those last hits. You never know how far you can push your champion until you've tried everything. At the start you are playing to win the first five minutes. Abuse "cheese" whatever, learn to push your champion to the limits. Abuse level timings, hitting 2 before the other guy, 4 before the other guy, 6 before the other guy etc etc.

Know when you are stronger, when you are weaker.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

Play more. Learn to play with standard runes. Rely less and less on AD to last hit. Avoid it altogether. Take those mastery points out of butcher and put them in CDR, AS, whatever will help you.

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

lolwiki - learn your champion, if you don't know your lane, see what they do.
lolpro - quick reference for skill order - You won't need it as you play more but one of the fastest ways to check things.
Streams - Excellent for learning to play matchup at the highest level. I learn much more now from them as I close to them in level but some streamers like oddone, wingsofdeathx, voyboy etc teach a decent amount that is sometimes relevant to lower ELO. Listen to how they talk at first but watch how they play if you want to improve.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 07 2013 11:17 GMT
#35
1) When I got back to LoL from playing Dota 2 for a while, I played with a very different outlook than before. I wouldn't say I ever played LoL competitively, but before then I really didn't know much about roles etc.

2) Playing Dota 2 made me tons better at LoL since it has a more competitive focus than LoL which immediately forces you to take those aspects into account. Picking a role to focus on helped me a ton since it lowers the amount of factors you have to learn.

3) Lane equilibrium and just how important last hitting is, in a realistic fashion. I remember starting out in lol and some people saying that it was important to get every single last hit on every single creep in every wave. Unrealistic benchmarks like that doesn't help at all. What DID help was when I read the guide on SK and understood just how much of an advantage proper last hitting gives you compared to hunting for kills. Just pure statistics like, if you get 80% of the last hits, you're THIS far ahead in gold compared to someone who only got 40% of them yet got x amount of kills in lane. Proper realistic benchmarks help a ton.

4) Always focus on your own performance, learn what good players in your role does and try to mimic them. Hit the important benchmarks. Learn how to impact the game as much as possible from your role.

5) I really don't know of any really good LoL resources, I find most guides on mobafire etc to be quite bad. The best I can think of is either watching progames, or progamers who commentate a lot stream. Just like Purge for Dota 2, a good player who specifically talks about his decision making during games is invaluable because you learn how you should be approaching the game.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
June 07 2013 12:03 GMT
#36
1) When I started playing on the KR server and realized I couldn't blame ping for being bad anymore.

2) the wise man 5hitcombo once told me (as I was 1-10 on ashe) that the secret to winning is not dying. Combined with Alex Ich: See Hero, Kill Hero mentality and you have a style that falls toward the aggressive spectrum where you learn the limitations of the match ups and matches.

3) Knowing what, when and how to take map objectives. That and lane mechanics.

4) Learn by watching what Pro's do and don't, and learn why. Saying X pro does/doesn't do this so it must be good is one thing, knowing why he does/doesn't it is completely different. Knowing why also allows you to evaluate if it is a good thing or not and build yourself from there on.
5) Leaguepedia, high Elo players, streams.
washed
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 07 2013 14:16 GMT
#37
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
I always play to win, even if I do silly stuff like Fiddle or Darius support. Ok, I went AP Jarvan in ARAM once.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
I came in with pretty decent map awareness as a longtime semi-non-scrub Brood War player. I focused a lot about learning the skills of all the champs and figuring out how champions interact-- I focused most on support vs. support, then brought the AD's into the picture.

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
Buy wards. Please. You can't buy anything else with 75 gold that's nearly as useful. Also, consumables are good and you should buy them.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

Mechanics and map awareness. Learning to use the ping system (I still haven't really), gauging the mood of your team to get them to group, take objectives and give advice in the nicest way possible. Knowing how to use the ignore button. nowng when to take a break.

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

I used to google guides for stuff. A little bit of reddit I guess.
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Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 17:08:24
June 07 2013 17:07 GMT
#38
I'm pretty wordy, so some long answers =/.

1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

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I got into LoL because I was burning out on sc2 and a group of friends of around 5-6 people were all playing LoL together. Soon after getting into the game proper, I realized that my friends all kinda sucked, and I wanted to make them better since I quickly became the best player in the group considering I was the only one who was really gaming with a competitive mindset. Unfortunately, they took my rapid improvement and constant nagging at them about everything poorly, is a small part of why I'm not longer friends with them. But I wanted to better myself and better them, so that's why I played to improve.


2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

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This encompasses a lot, but to put it all down in a phrase, it's the knowledge of what is possible, and that it is possible for me to achieve it. I'll give three examples. When I got flash at level 12 or whatever for the first time, I understood what the spell did, but I didn't realize how elastic the ability usage was. I watched a stream and it hit me how consistantly people flashed over walls, and how the slightly more technical (pretty simplistic to us now) jumps over larger wall spaces work. I started to try myself, and it was super hard because I got nervous and flashed too early and failed hard a lot. But knowing that it was possible allowed me to grind the games necessarily to do it consistantly. (Another example in this line in the alistar combo.)

The second example is the idea of range differentials. When I knew the range differences, I was like, cool trivia knowledge, but until I saw a pro stream I didn't realize how much you could abuse it. As ashe, when I learned that the fact that I had 600 range meant that I could auto the enemy ad every single time they went to last hit, that dramatically changed my understanding of lane dynamics. When I learned that it was possible, I set out to learn how to do it, and thus I became better.

The last example is my breakout from gold to plat and now diamond which was more or less the simple realization that even though my mechanics are fairly strong, it was not nearly as difficult as I thought to become like people on the streams. I had incredible difficulty dealing with malphites as adc--it felt like every teamfight, they'd just ult me and I'd be helpless and I die. One day I was watching a stream and a malphite kept trying to engage, and for something like four ults in a row, the people just flashed out. He was understandably frustrated, but the fact that it was possible opened my eyes. In later games, I flashed out of malphite ults. I flashed over a nami tital wave into her. I alistar pulverised to cancel out a xin gap closing on me. I janna tornado canceled a jarvan flag pulling onto my ad. A vayne I played against flashed over me when she anticipated me launching my collateral damage as graves, and won the 1v1 easily, and instead of being like, that's bullshit, I went, that's super smart, I want to do that. It's not a matter of not being able to do the really impressive looking stuff, it's knowing that it's possible to gain that mechanical ability and do those kinds of things. Then learning to do it is the easy part.


3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

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That you can move the minimap, so I can actually benefit off my starcraft map awareness.

Having a friend play with you and tell you if a champion does magic or physical damage, and so whether you should build armor or mr is also a huge help.

Proper itemization and to experiment with item builds. I tried to explain this to my friends who picked up the game after me, but it's always like, way too many choices and way too much knowledge at once. Just the concept that you should try a build and then adapt it and learning when and how to adapt item builds is such an imporant skill to have in this game.


4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
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The way I started LoL and the position I honestly think it is best to breed a mechanically strong player (for people with zero dota-like game experience like me) is adc mid. It's harder now, since unlike when I started it's no longer the meta and people will rage and so forth, but it really is the best place/way to gain clarity of last hit mechanics and reading your opponent. It's better than a mage, since you have to train yourself harder to last hit without really relying on abilities (or at least not to the extent ap mids do), and you can do so in an actual 1v1 scenario since there's no jungler and you're not in a weird 2v2 lane.

If you're in ranked already though, I think it's just better to set mechanical benchmarks for yourself. Play Leblanc, plan to kill the enemy mid 3 times in lane. Then say, okay, I can do that, now I want to kill him twice but still have 130 cs by 20 minutes. Then 150. After you gain that mechanic ability, then you can work your roaming and map awareness and gain a million kills all over the map cause you're lb, but that means that for every mid you play, you already have the mechanic ability to consistantly hit at least 130 cs by twenty minutes, which will take you to higher elos by itself.


5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

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Mostly just watch a lot of pro streams. I go to lolwiki, and when I'm picking up a new champ I use probuilds and rarely solomid guides.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
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Last Edited: 2013-06-07 22:51:32
June 07 2013 22:50 GMT
#39
On June 07 2013 03:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Thanks all!


Couldn't fit this in a better question. An under appreciated method to improving in LoL comes down to something that's done in all forms of sports/games everywhere. Just play against someone better than you. You can use 1v1s or other methods you might have available. This is why inhouses are/were so popular. This is also why teams want to scrim against better teams, and are hesitant to scrim lesser teams. I'm relatively certain out of all other methods, this one is one where you'll improve the fastest(aside from the whole just playing more to gain more experience of course)
JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
June 08 2013 00:27 GMT
#40
On June 07 2013 03:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
In the hidden laboratories of TL LoL, unfinished projects and burgeoning creations lurk in the shadows. Occasionally, the mad scientists that are the Staff help an experiment complete its genesis, and unleash it upon the unsuspecting forum to cause chaos and mayhem to better the informed strategic dialog upon which we pride ourselves.

Yet every once in a while, the beasts require sacrifice input from the community for which they are made.

Which is the point of this thread.

There's a thing that's been hanging around the Staff forum for a while at various states of construction, but there's a chance it could be released soon™. However, to do so, we need some help from everyone on TL LoL. I've got a few questions here for which the answers would be extremely helpful in completing our little Frankenstein monster, and I would love it if TL users of all divisions and experience gave some insight.

1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?


I appreciate any and all help y'all can give me, especially if you've been playing for a while and have climbed up the ranks/Elo/whatever.

Thanks all!


1. I've been competitive from day one, but I'm a person who loves play unorthodox things and builds that people could call silly or troll. It's always 100% to win though.

2. Mostly 'advanced' game sense stuff such as lane control, objective timing and pressure. The basics were easy to come by - CS, don't die, ward, pay attention to the map - but talking with way better players than myself has opened my eyes to a lot of things that I didn't even know I needed to improve on.

3. There's way too many to list. Mostly I'd want to be pointed to resources and people I could ask questions of.

4. Ask someone better than you what you could improve, and LISTEN.

5. I use LoLpro for quick build overviews on unfamilliar champs, but mostly I've been in the game long enough to collect a lot of general knowledge on champs even if I don't play them. Streams are the big thing, the LoL subreddit has a ton of noise but some good signal too.
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